Should Somalia have A Constitution based on Secular or Islamic?

Secular government:

Divided the country along clan lines
Looted the country
Executed Islamic scholars
Was so brutal to the north that they made them secede
Terrible economic growth
Lost the Ogaden war to 5’3 xabashis

Talk to someone who grew up under MSB and ask them how they liked the food rationing and government persecution.
 

repo

Bantu Liberation Movement
VIP
Somalia needs a secular constitution. There are too many fanatics and too many wrong things normalized. Individual freedoms have to be guaranteed. If it was up to me, I would copy the American constitution except the 2nd amendment.

:kanyeshrug:
 

convincation

Soomaali waa Hawiyah Iyo Hashiyah
VIP
Somalia needs a secular constitution. There are too many fanatics and too many wrong things normalized. Individual freedoms have to be guaranteed. If it was up to me, I would copy the American constitution except the 2nd amendment.

:kanyeshrug:
What’s the second amandment
 
"In a six-month respite in 2006, the people of Mogadishu were able to enjoy peace and law and order. Eleven local Islamic courts had united and their militias to end the fighting. They had strong popular support and represented a broad coalition of political and religious forces. There were adherents of a strict interpretation of Islam, but they were by no means dominant. Women could now go to the market without fear of being attacked and raped by armed, inflamed teenagers. The tolls of the perpetrators disappeared, the weapons were collected and volunteers cleared up the rubble. Young people played football on the streets, and the aid organizations were suddenly able to operate without serious obstacles. It was, as the UN High Representative for Somalia declared, "a golden age".

:yousmart:
 

Basra

LOVE is a product of Doqoniimo mixed with lust
Let Them Eat Cake
VIP
Somalia needs a secular constitution. There are too many fanatics and too many wrong things normalized. Individual freedoms have to be guaranteed. If it was up to me, I would copy the American constitution except the 2nd amendment.

:kanyeshrug:


huuuno....can u explain the gymnastic happenstance???


You asking for Secular Somali Constitution while you IZ having this dp photo??????


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My holly nigggaaa will be triggered huuno
 

convincation

Soomaali waa Hawiyah Iyo Hashiyah
VIP
We also need to completely abolish the concept of qabil. No one in politics is allowed to state their qabil and if they do they should be executed. If 2 clans ever engage in conflict based on clan lines the leaders of both those clans will be executed. If someone openly states their qabil they will be executed and it should be widespread culture that anyone who teaches their kids their qabil they are a traitor to the state and should be treated like one. All documents of the existence of seperate qabils will be burned and in schools children will be taught only the word somali and qabil will be forgotten in 2 or 3 generations down. Simple
 
Like sharia law

yeah the big problem is the power of elders which is outdated. We want smart young people with education not illiterate guys with red beard
Agreed these old men with maids in there house can’t relate to our struggles since the average age of Somalia is 16 we should allow younger people into politics
 

convincation

Soomaali waa Hawiyah Iyo Hashiyah
VIP
"In a six-month respite in 2006, the people of Mogadishu were able to enjoy peace and law and order. Eleven local Islamic courts had united and their militias to end the fighting. They had strong popular support and represented a broad coalition of political and religious forces. There were adherents of a strict interpretation of Islam, but they were by no means dominant. Women could now go to the market without fear of being attacked and raped by armed, inflamed teenagers. The tolls of the perpetrators disappeared, the weapons were collected and volunteers cleared up the rubble. Young people played football on the streets, and the aid organizations were suddenly able to operate without serious obstacles. It was, as the UN High Representative for Somalia declared, "a golden age".

:yousmart:
Tell me more about this
 

Villainess

smooth talk on a rainy summer evening
You have a point. But your forgetting how somalis nowdays are. Back before the war most women didn’t even wear hijabs some did some didn’t but no one was in the position to at tell a women to wear it. My mum only started wearing her hijab when she was 19 and she’s the most religious person I know. Nowdays when I was in Somalia a women at the beachs hijab FELL OFF as in by accident and the men there completely surrounded her screaming dh*lo and “dabada lagaa was” all because her hijab came off by accident. That’s the kind of place somalia is today and it’s also the reason why we have things like alshabab. Under secularism, people who chose to be close to Allah can freely do that with public respect and people who aren’t as religious or follow a different religion can also do that peacefully. Provided all schools should teach Islam as a core subject so atleast these people are educated on it. That way we can truly have peace but having a Islamic based government in a country where people are openly extremist will never end well
That is against islam, slandering women. But jahilliya no matter how historic is never good. We need a stable balance. Not alshabab, not arab greed.
 

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