Should Somalia have A Constitution based on Secular or Islamic?
- Thread starter Basra
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Tht is so wrong
Villainess
smooth talk on a rainy summer evening
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We should go with what works the best for our country and allows everyone to live their lives, we can not ignore how the extremist somalis hijacked our deen and twisted it to something harmful and we can not ignore how corrupt and clanist secular somalis destroyed our country. Truth is, something that allows both groups to live peacefully in Somalia without one forcing the other to live like them is the key to Success. 
Lets define secularism first..
"The belief that religious affairs should not enter into the function of the state especially into public education."
As a muslim who follows the quran and sunnah it is mandatory for me to want sharia since its a law which has been sent down by Allah to his messenger to govern the muslims.
A person who claims islam but prefers secularism to sharia is treading in dangerous territory in regards to his iman.
That means this person doesn't accept or like the rule of the khulafa rashiduun even worse they don't accept rule of the messenger of Allah PBUH yet they claim to follow him.
Advocating for secularism means you don't want islam to spread, you do not want people to prepare for the akhirah, you want to suppress people's knowledge of the sunnah, you want to change islam by limiting it to the masajid when islam is a complete way of life system with rules that cater to the natural human fitrah.
Secular legislation allows abortion, same-sex marriage,usurious interest (riba); fornication/adultery and the drinking of alcohol are permitted - This is making haram halal
You are completely going against everything the diin has taught ijmaa from all madhab not one of them disagree on the concept of sharia.
Then do you believe in a part of the Scripture and reject the rest? Then what is the recompense of those who do so among you, except disgrace in the life of this world”
[al-Baqarah 2:85].
Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):
“So the judgement is only with Allah, the Most High, the Most Great!”
[Ghaafir 40:12]
"The belief that religious affairs should not enter into the function of the state especially into public education."
As a muslim who follows the quran and sunnah it is mandatory for me to want sharia since its a law which has been sent down by Allah to his messenger to govern the muslims.
A person who claims islam but prefers secularism to sharia is treading in dangerous territory in regards to his iman.
That means this person doesn't accept or like the rule of the khulafa rashiduun even worse they don't accept rule of the messenger of Allah PBUH yet they claim to follow him.
Advocating for secularism means you don't want islam to spread, you do not want people to prepare for the akhirah, you want to suppress people's knowledge of the sunnah, you want to change islam by limiting it to the masajid when islam is a complete way of life system with rules that cater to the natural human fitrah.
Secular legislation allows abortion, same-sex marriage,usurious interest (riba); fornication/adultery and the drinking of alcohol are permitted - This is making haram halal
You are completely going against everything the diin has taught ijmaa from all madhab not one of them disagree on the concept of sharia.
Then do you believe in a part of the Scripture and reject the rest? Then what is the recompense of those who do so among you, except disgrace in the life of this world”
[al-Baqarah 2:85].
Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):
“So the judgement is only with Allah, the Most High, the Most Great!”
[Ghaafir 40:12]
Like what source
They should have better leaders, that's what I think should happen. Both won't happen when the leaders aren't enforcing it. Some use Islamic ruling very extreme and for secularism, there will be things against the deen that will be normalized and you get more "liberal" moslems who ruin the nation. Drugs, unprotected sex, clubs and bars, etc
Weak leadership Under secularism= you get more issues like drugs, diseases like STDs HIV due to folks having unprotected sex, use of drugs would be considered cool and you can't do anything because it's the norm and ^Allah is the only judge^ Kids would get brainwashed to the point of becoming non muslims.
Weak leadership under Islamic= You have extremist who use Islam very wrong like killing someone for political or qabiil reason and still calling themselves muslim. Without a khadi/qadi, an islam judge, no one's supposed to enforce Islamic laws when you yourself aren't good on your deen. The most you can do is advise/da'wah not kill someone. I doubt there's anyone worth becoming a qadi there in Somalia when they still have biases, cuqdad and qabiil favoritism. You see ^sheikh^ that are educated about the deen but are qabilist? Or favor one qabiil against the other, that's not it.
Bottom line, Somalia needs to prioritize education and have strong leaders who care about her
Weak leadership Under secularism= you get more issues like drugs, diseases like STDs HIV due to folks having unprotected sex, use of drugs would be considered cool and you can't do anything because it's the norm and ^Allah is the only judge^ Kids would get brainwashed to the point of becoming non muslims.
Weak leadership under Islamic= You have extremist who use Islam very wrong like killing someone for political or qabiil reason and still calling themselves muslim. Without a khadi/qadi, an islam judge, no one's supposed to enforce Islamic laws when you yourself aren't good on your deen. The most you can do is advise/da'wah not kill someone. I doubt there's anyone worth becoming a qadi there in Somalia when they still have biases, cuqdad and qabiil favoritism. You see ^sheikh^ that are educated about the deen but are qabilist? Or favor one qabiil against the other, that's not it.
Bottom line, Somalia needs to prioritize education and have strong leaders who care about her
