Somali teen stabbed to death in Toronto
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Its not the neighborhood. I grew up in a neighborhood where there is higher crime but I didn't end up in that lifestyle. Somali parents can't raise their kids.
These neighborhoods have hundreds of ethnicities living there but its just the Somalis and carribean people doing crimes.
Its called bad parenting.
RIP to the man.
These neighborhoods have hundreds of ethnicities living there but its just the Somalis and carribean people doing crimes.
Its called bad parenting.
RIP to the man.
Khathead
tfw no habesha gf
Then they can just cut all contact with the shitty Somalis, focus on their grades and move tf out as soon as possible when they are done with high school. There are shitty neighborhoods here too, hell I live in one, but the worst that could happen to me is someone stealing my bike. Not getting stabbed.
Nah the young Somalis themselves created this shit. They look up to drug dealers and rappers and tries to be like them. They influence the younger Somalis who becomes the next losers. It's like those shitty diasporas who goes to Somaliland and smokes weed and drinks. They are rotten to the core, and only they can change it. I don't buy into that class thing, not in this case. Unlike AA Somalis have their own culture, yet the Somalis there blatantly copies the black Americans.
How hard is it find a regular job in Canada?
Thats just utter rubbish, many ethnic communities used to live in ghettos like that and many do not turn into bunch of anti-intellectual gangbanging thugs selling crack.
This is just the oldest argument to deflect responsibility.
Dont think its bad parenting either, this is not Somalia and the parents cannot cope or monitor that which falls outside of their influence or understanding.
It is simply due to a lack of social capital and the youth rejecting being Somali. They would rather be black marginalized (other) than a productive self confident (Somali).
How many Asians will you see kill eachother or covert in mass disproportionately into gangestiirnimo?
Khathead
tfw no habesha gf
can u guys not speak on shit u dont know? that shit is patronizing af, ur literally just postulating and hypothesizing from ur lil quiet ass cadaan neighbourhoods in some swedish backwater
I live in a Danish neighborhood filled with Turks and Kurds bro.
I have seen how Somali-Canadians behave. If it wasn't for their Somali features you would think they were African Americans. Me, my brothers and cousins love rap, but we are smart enough to not have anything to do with that lifestyle. Drug dealing and killing people ain't funny. Somali-Canadians and the ones in MN seems to be the most retarded of our diaspora community. The ones in the Arab countries are the best ones
Nah the young Somalis themselves created this shit. They look up to drug dealers and rappers and tries to be like them. They influence the younger Somalis who becomes the next losers. It's like those shitty diasporas who goes to Somaliland and smokes weed and drinks. They are rotten to the core, and only they can change it. I don't buy into that class thing, not in this case. Unlike AA Somalis have their own culture, yet the Somalis there blatantly copies the black Americans.
How hard is it find a regular job in Canada?
You are quite clueless and it shows. Most people here befriend people of the same group and its pretty segregated. You can't just up and leave the Somali community like that. You will face social isolation and being ostracized. For some people who are extremely introverted such as myself it's easy keeping a low profile and to yourself but most people are not like this. When you engage with young Somalis there is a certain mindset one must conform to and that mindset is unfortunately not very conducive to being a model minority. The best solution I find is to raise the kids with the deen but in a proper way and not the way Somali parents do it now where they just drop their kids off at dugsi and expect them to figure it all out.
It is not easy to get a job once you have a criminal record. This Republican rhetoric of "pull yourself by the bootstrap" you're regurgitating here isn't very helpful. When you were stupid and young and got caught with drugs once or some other minor infraction you will have a criminal record that is almost impossible to ever get rid of. There is then no point in going to university or looking for any type of work because you will automatically be disqualified by the background checks they run. You will now be forced to turn to the streets and deal dope. I know quite a few good people who quit that lifestyle and Allah swt guided them away from it but they have practically no options in the job market. It's really sad wallah and people like you don't make it any easier when you look down on them.
can u guys not speak on shit u dont know? that shit is patronizing af, ur literally just postulating and hypothesizing from ur lil quiet ass cadaan neighbourhoods in some swedish backwater
How is that patronizing? I read alot about it ,read statistics ,sociology reports, studies. Tried to form a deeper complex understanding of it. I'm sorry it isn't a feel good point the blame the other way narrative that you are used to.
Parents are trying to shield their kids from harmful influences the best they can. They are not familiar with western culture hip hop this and all other influences this is not Somalia where they know how things work.
All they know how to respond to it is send their kids to the mosque cuz that's the only familiar thing they know and they cannot trust a unfamiliar surrounding.
Tramo
Nine kitaabs on a bookshelf
sxb u cant really compare somalis from different countries at face value like that. the circumstances are all different. yeah you might like rap music but there's no reason to emulate what u do in it it and if you do you're an idiot
but just because this is true for u doesnt mean it is for others. you think rap was created in a vacuum? that shit is real life for somalis in NA bro, it's not the same
read kulaha. do u not see how that's patronizing? u think u can read some shit on the internet and khalaas you can speak on and judge the lives (and deaths) of people thousands of miles from you. i'll give you an example of why this approach is flawed, you say that asians live in these same neighbourhoods and they don't end up in the same lifestyle. do you know that as an absolute fact? you don't, and it's tantamount to hearsay. and surprise, you're completely wrong...but you wouldn't know that in your arrogance would you?I only disagreed with the problem being the neighborhoods which they lived in. It is indeed complex but what you are doing is mischaracterize the problems.
You are a 16 year old kid who acts like he's completing a phd thesis in sociology at princeton. You have been sheltered your entire life which is not a bad thing but these issues are a complete black box to you that will never understand. Your entire worldview is myopic and you think you can understand this problem by reading the obscure charts produced by academics in their ivory towers. What a joke.
Tramo
Nine kitaabs on a bookshelf
^ u sheeg sxb. these niggas said "hip hop culture" 
. hip hop is simply a depiction of a reality. some people live this same reality and it doesn't mean they're emulating hip hop. walahi the ignorance waxaaba ka sii daran the arrogance in thinking u know what ur talking about. wayba sii murmayaan 
. hip hop is simply a depiction of a reality. some people live this same reality and it doesn't mean they're emulating hip hop. walahi the ignorance waxaaba ka sii daran the arrogance in thinking u know what ur talking about. wayba sii murmayaan There is no reason to emulate because there is no expectations to conform into black identity of becoming this marginalized other.
There is not a Huge populous of Somalis in scandinavia fighting to be called black and there is no pressure to be this "black" person either.
I do not look down Somalis in Canada.
And btw I didn't judge the deaths of anyone wtf are you talking about?
Yes I can actually form an opinion and understanding from reading expert analyzes of issues that pertain somali youth in Canada. Unlike some people i actually read and debate and i love doings so.
Hersay my rubber butt keep pushing some MTV narrative.
Tramo
Nine kitaabs on a bookshelf
sigh, it has nothing to do with the lovely collection of buzzwords above. it's nothing more than peer pressure and conforming to the current status quo in those neighbourhoods. if u have any sort of social life, you will be caught up to some extent, that's just the reality and no bullshit cadaan expert can say otherwise. i know it's hard to fathom leaving ur house and interacting with people but c'est la vie
u judge their deaths by proxy of judging their life choices which led to some of their deaths, by making them seem like they're just some dumb kids who copy what they see on tv. u say u dont look down on them, but it sure seems like it. you give off an air that ur above people simply because ur a sheltered kid who fills his head with a bunch of confirmation bias he reads on the internet. oh you dont? just look at the bolded. ur posts wouldn't look out of place on r/iamverysmart
also ur not gon talk about the blatant disinformation you tried to pass off as fact re: asians?
I have not been sheltered far from it actually and my age is irrelevant. I'm curious as to why you bringing my character into this topic non of you know the first thing about me and this had nothing to do with the topic of discussion. Only to try and undermine my credibility.
i understand by reading , debating, reflecting, Taking things from experience and so on. Multiple things that go together, it isnt as easy just reading a piece of trash online, Then with some inflated sense of the grandour come and showcase myself as expert.
And why are guys so anti-intellectual and show hostility towards it.
Does this go under this supposed "black" identity that to engage in intellectual thoughful discussion and articulating yourself by using varied vocab is consider to be "white" in your regard? You are demonized for it?
Disagree with me if you may, i have nothing against disagreements. But this is just low
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Tramo
Nine kitaabs on a bookshelf
sxb u are myopic and see things through the lens of ur bias and limited knowledge. it's not necessarily a bad thing in itself, u can say that applies to everyone to some extent. but at least show some humility when people with more first hand experience and knowledge correct u. u cant always be correct
Man i must really offend & intimidate you guys , soo much so that you think im patronizing, arrogant and your only argument is my age.
I talk to people, have experienced how somalis live in the ghettos in the states for my own self , read whole bunch, discuss, Ask questions. Reflect, compare. Many things that go together i am not myopic in anyway. If new facts come out i change my stance and im always willing to hear others out.
Its not as easy as just reading some rubbish online and acting like expert on the topic.
Im not as dense as you guys i actually think these issues are very complex and would dvele into the complexities of it rather than to be just content with this (feel good) system oppression narrative that many of you suscribe to.
I talk to people, have experienced how somalis live in the ghettos in the states for my own self , read whole bunch, discuss, Ask questions. Reflect, compare. Many things that go together i am not myopic in anyway. If new facts come out i change my stance and im always willing to hear others out.
Its not as easy as just reading some rubbish online and acting like expert on the topic.
Im not as dense as you guys i actually think these issues are very complex and would dvele into the complexities of it rather than to be just content with this (feel good) system oppression narrative that many of you suscribe to.
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