Somali teen stabbed to death in Toronto

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afrosomali

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@Geeljire wat i find hilarious is ur vilification of somali diaspora youth nd yet their parents nd the older generations r free from blame- theyre all saintly parents who can do no wrong despite the baby momma welfare lying to the govt culture theyve adopted without any emulation of AA or jamakiyan culture
 
@Geeljire when are u gonna address ur comment about asians? why u ducking sxb siilaanyolaugh

Why should i address it? What i said is very true believe it or not. The neighborhood argument doesn't add up.

@Geeljire wat i find hilarious is ur vilification of somali diaspora youth nd yet their parents nd the older generations r free from blame- theyre all saintly parents who can do no wrong despite the baby momma welfare lying to the govt culture theyve adopted without any emulation of AA or jamakiyan culture

I don't blame anyone actually. This is not a finger pointing contest. You really think the issues of Somalis and our lives is a "who is a best contest"? "Hebel hebel is the problem hebel is to blame" Issues are much more complex than that. I consider this more of a generational problem as well.

This not simply due to parents being on welfare, this is rubbish no correlation can be formed from that.
 
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afrosomali

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This not simply due to parents being on welfare, this is rubbish no correlation can be formed from that.
but its simply due to copying jamakiyans nd AA:francis:

parents being on welfare no most of the older generation in the diaspora have many vices nd bad traits nd their priorities r not right ie raising their children
 
but its simply due to copying jamakiyans nd AA:francis:

Pretty much! But if we dvele in deeper to understand why they identify with this western identity trap "blackness" of still being alienated but without a framework for self-development.

Due to lack of social capital due to the civil war and lack of refrence of self and some are like you who reject their Somali identity out of self hate because you buy into how unnattractive its been potrayed in recent decades.

Typac and biggie are your inspiration i bet.

parents being on welfare
no most of the older generation in the diaspora have many vices nd bad traits nd their priorities r not right ie raising their children

Being on welfare has other effects , parents do pay attention to their kids and many tiressly worry about even seek help about what they try hard to comprehend. I have worked with alot of them and i know this to be fact. Many are left with little to no cultural capital to draw from since the state and condition Somalia is in and lack of educational background stifling their capabiilites.

I hang with many ethnic groups like for example tamils and their parents do not act any different then ours yet these kids are very proud people of their roots and are high achievers out doing every ethnic group here and that is because their parents are able to pull from capital which Somali parents do not posess and has a stabile homeland (Tamil nadu) to lean on for production and many of them have been based Here since 1960s unlike us who came in the 90s and 2000s disunited people took the ills of the war back with us.
 
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@Geeljire wat i find hilarious is ur vilification of somali diaspora youth nd yet their parents nd the older generations r free from blame- theyre all saintly parents who can do no wrong despite the baby momma welfare lying to the govt culture theyve adopted without any emulation of AA or jamakiyan culture
The government money is so small most of parents are working but the problem is culture of neighbourhood Somali boys tend to hang with West Indies and listen to rap music and so in to AA culture but girls on opposite side tend to hang with South Asia girls and Arab who are good in Somalis that is reason most girls in North America tend to successes in academic level.
 
The government money is so small most of parents are working but the problem is culture of neighbourhood Somali boys tend to hang with West Indies and listen to rap music and so in to AA culture but girls on opposite side tend to hang with South Asia girls and Arab who are good in Somalis that is reason most girls in North America tend to successes in academic level.
South Asia and Arab girls who are good in schools which helped our girls
 
If you took Jews and Indian, and removed their culture what would you have? Would you have all those Noble Prize winners, would you have all those Indian brain surgeons? The Jew without culture, under the terms of the Somali diaspora youth would produce the same urban disease we see in Canadas inner cities. It would produce the same violence and hopelessness in the projects of Toronto and parts of Dixon

Thats why i think our generation needs to step in to the Spotlight and assume a role of instructing the youth and producing relevant content that is crucial for their social development. We dont get anywhere by pointing finger at our own parents, blaming cadaan Casper the ghost or using the burden the civil war brought us to slouch around.

Ive intreviewed many and spoken to them and They tell me that being nearly deculturalized felt deprecating to them, and they lost all confidence and sense of direction. So they latch on to whatever that was available to them, as in this case "Salafism" and "Urban culture".

Its no accident why we fill the numbers of convicts and jihadist salafi Isis fighters disproportionately compared to other ethnic groups.
 
South Asia and Arab girls who are good in schools which helped our girls

I think its the same for the girls, from what ive seen and know. Although it may be to a fraction of a lesser degree that due to the difference in gender. But they are even caught up in this black identity trap and urban diseases. Why else do you think most pro black SJWs are Somali girls compared to the boys? They might not do drugs or turn to violence but they turn to other things instead.

I think that margin gap between girls and boys in school are slim and exaggerated. Mainly due to difference in gender and how the schools system is set up. You will see in general girls from every ethnic group & background do better at school then their male counterparts overall and fill university numbers at a higher rate. But you will see many Somali girls noloshooda ka dhacday but since they are women they are not characterized by it and can lean on a male provider. The media also in the work of exxagerating it. If you compare Somali girls achievement rate with other ethnic groups you will see that its not something to make note of or brag about.

Its really an issue we need to look at collectively and not individually.
 
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Khathead

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You are quite clueless and it shows. Most people here befriend people of the same group and its pretty segregated. You can't just up and leave the Somali community like that. You will face social isolation and being ostracized. For some people who are extremely introverted such as myself it's easy keeping a low profile and to yourself but most people are not like this. When you engage with young Somalis there is a certain mindset one must conform to and that mindset is unfortunately not very conducive to being a model minority. The best solution I find is to raise the kids with the deen but in a proper way and not the way Somali parents do it now where they just drop their kids off at dugsi and expect them to figure it all out.

It is not easy to get a job once you have a criminal record. This Republican rhetoric of "pull yourself by the bootstrap" you're regurgitating here isn't very helpful. When you were stupid and young and got caught with drugs once or some other minor infraction you will have a criminal record that is almost impossible to ever get rid of. There is then no point in going to university or looking for any type of work because you will automatically be disqualified by the background checks they run. You will now be forced to turn to the streets and deal dope. I know quite a few good people who quit that lifestyle and Allah swt guided them away from it but they have practically no options in the job market. It's really sad wallah and people like you don't make it any easier when you look down on them.

I live in a neighborhood where the only Somalis are my aunts, uncles and cousins. I can go to my cousins in Copenhagen and chill with them and their Somali friends with no problem. No social isolation for me. I don't have to change my behavior to fit in at all. I'm the same person with Somalis as I am with the Turks and Kurds. It's only when I'm with my Danish friends I'm different, but that's a whole 'nother thing. If Somalis in Canada can't interact with anyone but other Somalis then that means they failed integrating into Canadian society. Canada is multicultural, and living in enclaves won't help your community prosper if it's already shitty.

Islam won't help much. It will help a little with the ''you will go to hell if you do this, don't do it!'' but aside from that you need to help them with homework, disciplining them etc.

It is not easy to get a job once you have a criminal record.

Stay away from drugs then and other criminal activity... How hard can it be? Just freeze out all the idiotic Somalis and Jamaicans who deals with that crap. I was friend with a Moroccan guy. He was pretty cool and we had a lot in common, but the dude did a lot of shady shit. What did I do? I froze him out of my life. I have done a lot of stupid shit when I was younger. One being having drugs on me. Luckily no cops busted me. Why? Because I don't walk around with it outside like a dumbass. If you aren't careful with that shit then it's all on you is all I'm saying.

You will now be forced to turn to the streets and deal dope

So these people ruined their lives by being around drugs and criminals, and now they sell the same illegal shit that fucked them up in their own neighborhoods?
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