Somali twitter vs Spanish archaeologist

[xxx_newacc]

This hatred the web has for oromos needs to be studied.

That is all you took from the lengthy paragraph ?

 

[Rayaale]

I've made my peace with the fact that Somalis are for some reason an extermely reactionary people. This is partially why I suspect you see so much discussion by Somalis on stuff when they're intrested in a topic.

I would say Somalis are straight shooters they are dacaad they’ll quickly call you out we don’t pretend and stab you in the back when you turn.

 

[Rayaale]

When you an encounter an african person online discussing genetic,history, some other niche topic . There's a good chance there somali.

We were the front liners for other Africans, have you seen Kenyan and Rwandan twitter, they discuss genetics and history deeply

 

[Idilinaa]

Let me give you a sneak peak into this guys operations and tell me if it so well-meaning:

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Anti-infrastructural ethos... Subversive mobility? Notice how he quotes Burton, an Orientalist (and Pankhurst) even including where he called us savages (in what is supposed to be an academic paper) to set an example of how we were a people allergic to anything structural (this Rubial guy quoted this very thing in two separate papers, so you know he is desperate and limited in evidence when the material evidence shows less damage than probably all regions, proven by their very observations). This Rubial scumbag used an orientalist to state what he wanted without any evidence, placing Francis Burton, an unprofessional layman traveler with a lot of racial biases and evil contempt for Somalis in the typical imperial European fashion, as an authority of everything Somali (they quote Burton several times).

He really said, they destroyed the stone tower because it was seen by other clans as an entity that threatened their liberties. It was not about territorial competition and resources, but liberty? Really? Everything makes sense when you realize these people think Somalis are severely unintelligent and that they can't fathom our historical ways gave rise to the rich and unique history so they are walking in extreme dissonance, which all makes sense why they use the nomad distinguisher. It's a tool to capture their nonsense in that bag while divorcing everything else as its separate existence.

Their very work pointed this out:
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That has been noticed in all the sites that was under the Ifat-Adal horizon, exept for one, the latter of which we know litte of the extent, size and signifcance. They aknowledged that the material culture showed no damage indicating conflict throuhout the existence of the buildings all the way to the end and abandonment.

The irony of the guy, grain storage systems were a thing in Somali history, tracing all the way back beyond 5000 years ago in Nubia.

What the hell am i reading.

Anti -infrastructural? is that the reason why there was already 3 other towers built in Berbera and that clan was building a 4th one.

These were structures that could go toe to toe with forts and castles of Europe in terms of scale might i add. Here is a an illustration of the Castle Towers.

Berbera Castles 1844

Where these castles and manaarh now . they appear to have been destroyed at some point

www.somalispot.com

The dispute was between trade access and it just ended up with the creation Bullaxaar as a sister port of Berbera being established. There was no savagery involved or subversiveness to permenant architecture because what they did was just expand the trade to accommodate it. Competition over trade routes and resources is a normal part of history worldwide—framing it as some nomadic rejection of structure is misleading.

There is nothing anti-infrastructural about these ports. They had watch towers(ilalos), storage facilities/warehouses, market place, harbour/docking areas for ships/boats, Mosques, forts and Quranic schools.

Bandar Qasim(Bosaso)

Whilst other minor settlements were actually coastal villages. Might i add wether people lived in houses that were wooden like cariishes or "stone houses" called Baraako/Dar that stood side by side had to do with wealth and status differences.

You guys can check the post i made about the types of homes:

Ancient Somali Homes

Hello everyone. I was wondering if anyone had any knowledge of how Somali homes used to look like. I’m talking pre-colonialism. Specifically what kinda floors they had, (was it tiled and if so, what kind of designs), if they had beds or sofas, or maybe just mattresses? What kind of decor and...

www.somalispot.com

Flat roofs suggest adaptation to a hot climate, allowing people to use the roof for cooling, sleeping, or storage. They also would create hole pipes for ventilation, so you see it stick out.

Multi-room(Cariishes), multi-story buildings (Baraako), indicate dense permanent urban centers rather than just temporary trading posts or seasonal settlements. Coastal towns using coral stone and wooden structures means seafarers and merchants built long-term settlements, not just seasonal ports.

The stone architecture is unique to the region as well. Use of coral stone & lime whitewashing shows technological advancement in construction, similar in ways to Mediterranean and Middle Eastern cities. Lime whitewashing not only strengthened buildings but also created aesthetic uniformity, making cities look more refined and organized.

Now imagine the British and Italians who bombed every coastal settlement and raized our Castles, Forts, Towers and Villas to the ground. Bulldozed entire districts, never built any useful public infrastructure, not even a road. Who's sole goal was to disrupt the trade and economy of Somalis as the British layed out. Treated the place like an extraction site. Were not the anti-infrastructural and logistic subversives?

But it was Somalis who had normal political and economic competition with eachother, that you see anywhere else in the world. . Waa yab wallahi. I have told @Shimbiris before waa dad walaan.

The same guy tried to attribute the network of citadels and forts that the Darawish built all over Somalia as Italian infrastructure when in actuality the Italians just appropriated it.

I also noticed that he mentioned pirates in the text you shared., this of course s completely false , i've seen even Puntlandvault posts these qoutes from some of these colonal explorers and orientalists , where they would characterize salvaged shipwrecks off the Somali coast as piracy, when it was not. They even framed majerteen smuggling guns and weapons to bypass the trade blockage by the British as ''pirates'' , despite the fact they purchased them and relied on a network of legal international suppliers controlled by Somalis abroad. Through that they funded and armed resistance across Somalia and East Africa, including the Darawish and Ogaden. They even manufactured amunition locally as well.

You can read more about how the rely on improper definitions for this in this study.

Piracy in the Horn of Africa Waters: Definitions, History, and Modern Causes

https://www.jstor.org/stable/48598903

They need stop and think logically, there wouldn't be this massive trade volume and visits/activity on the Somali coast if the locals engaged in piracy or logistic subversives or whatever.

The commercial activity in the past was significant this is documented. You can take Majerteen coast for example. They owned a dozen large merchant fleets called ''Dooni'' in Somali that was capable of carrying large cargo spread out across different ports and earned lot of revenue from seaborn trade.

Fishing via for example beden which means fishing-boat in Somali was particularly lucrative

Bebera for example in a trade journal from 1856 was described to be the freest port in the world and had trade volume twice that of Massawa and the most important trading place on the whole Arabian Gulf. This alone disproves any notion of a chaotic, "logistics-subversive" society.

The port of Berbera was a larger exporter to Jeddah than the closer Massawa port. Just highlighting the significance of the Berbera port.

No one would come to our waters, if we stole and hijacked their ships, it's completely ludicrous.

The Abaan system and concepts such as aman was utilized to ensure protection for visiting foreign traders and also safeguard local agency. It's a longstanding tradition that Somalis used for centuries and made our coast not only into trading hubs but safe havens.

This abaan system even existed in the interior, as well ensuring protection to traders and security to caravan's passing through. There was no subversive nomadic routes, instead what you saw was a highly organized system to facilitate trade and economic growth

This is very important to point out many colonial sources mislabeled wreck salvaging, arms smuggling, and independent trade as "piracy" to justify European intervention and economic control.

The British and Italians were the true disruptors, as seen in their destruction of Somali ports and infrastructure. Somali merchants were active participants in global trade, not anarchic sea raiders.

I have also covered in a different thread that "Piracy" is 100% their history and Europeans were big time pirates on the Indian Occean, reaching its peak between 1650s and the 1730s and it coincided with the trade decline along the indian occean and the red sea before the brief revival during the 1800s.
https://oxfordre.com/asianhistory/d...0277727.001.0001/acrefore-9780190277727-e-679

European piracy in the Indian Ocean thus rose and fell in various cycles from the 16th to early 19th centuries.

Whats strange about it , is that they glorify it and celebrate it in their popular culture.

 

[Idilinaa]

Well, I low-key have had my faith in Western higher education restored given that no one among them wants to touch this cowardly turd. Otherwise, absolute banger posts as usual. Shall devour more voraciously when I get home.

I take back what i said before about them not having any malicious intent, i had no idea before @The alchemist showed me that, i am baffled.

The claim of an "anti-infrastructural ethos" among Somalis is not just incorrect but a gross misrepresentation of historical facts. It's just provably, demonstrably and observably false.

The fact he relies on outdated orientalist sources , who had an openly racist bias, exposes a lack of critical scholarship in these academic papers.

It’s clear that some of these researchers come in with preconceived notions, fitting evidence into their framework rather than objectively analyzing Somali history.