Somalia Says No To Continued Ethiopian Presence Past 2024 And Quint Partners Concur
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‘Addis Standard’ lol complete propaganda
‘Addis Standard’ lol complete propaganda
That region Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Chechenya are like one bloc of people and do not adhere to western liberal democracy(they hold onto old world principles), the other slavs in the Balkan are very much tamed a bit by the Turkish influence over it's region but not them boys up there. They were originated from Vikings the swedes, who went east and established a kingdom over the local slavs so that's where it comes from I think.
Other Vikings went west primarily Danish and Norwegians to UK, France. Even after the fall of Rome, all the Germanic tribes settled all Europe and everywhere Romans vacated and the glorious dark ages began, it wasn't Christianity who created the dark ages, it was the barbarian Germanic tribes who sacked Rome. Christianity came much later to most Europe which was in a dark period like Africa as a whole is.
Western Liberal Values is about freedom for all, equality, and justice that is their philosophy as for its real world application their lots of questions marks around it. Theory that sounds nice but in practise has lots of teething issues. They believe in helping the weak not stomping on them and conquering and setting an example to follow to lift up ppl not put them down.
This quite contrary to those eastern slavs values which is all about conquest, putting ppl under the yoke, the strong rule while the weak serve where as in western world the philosophy argued the leader is the public's servant and the masses lead. It's quite different value system rather then having your leader sit on those gold chairs like we do, it's supposed to be the lowest among U who sits on it and the best among U sit in something lowly.
This quite contrary to those eastern slavs values which is all about conquest, putting ppl under the yoke, the strong rule while the weak serve where as in western world the philosophy argued the leader is the public's servant and the masses lead. It's quite different value system rather then having your leader sit on those gold chairs like we do, it's supposed to be the lowest among U who sits on it and the best among U sit in something lowly.
Two losers from landlocked shitholes consoling each other
apparently this guys office is right inside the Villa Somalia compound, meters from where HSM sleeps
Hilmaam
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Kkk I wonder what was straw broke camels back . Ethiopians been moving mad disrespectful. Abiye was talking all shit with Belarusapparently this guys office is right inside the Villa Somalia compound, meters from where HSM sleeps
It's not looking good for my Ethiopian brothers, hopefully these do-gooder Africans are rejected by their European overlords. UNSC do your thing, I hope the US holds the line they've been saying but it's not looking good.
When you think about it's all very idealistic, FGS getting to pick and choose like it's on holiday. FGS is on life-support, it's a serious situation, no time to be ripping up the whole play book and starting from scratch. I'm sure those involved understand but the Africans are maybe playing the good cop in the situation before the UNSC lets them down.
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Hilmaam
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Lol I still don’t think they will leave . Their 3k atmis troops might leave bases but the 7k in the border regions outside atmis wont . Just my predictionIt's not looking good for my Ethiopian brothers, hopefully these do-gooder Africans are rejected by their European overlords. UNSC do your thing, I hope the US holds the line they've been saying but it's not looking good.
When you think about it's all very idealistic, FGS getting to pick and choose like it's on holiday. FGS is on life-support, it's a serious situation, no time to be ripping up the whole play book and starting from scratch. I'm sure those involved understand but the Africans are maybe playing the good cop in the situation before the UNSC lets them down.
Huuuge win by Amb. Warfa and Xasan Sheekh on behalf of the Somali people.
The FGS is doing good work in the AU.
This is bullshit but US client FGS is getting to pick and choose like it's a breakfast buffet. Excluding Ethiopia is obviously a detrimental move, if the US allows it will be a real sign that they have decided the illusion of FGS sovereignty is more important than actual reality.
The US has already had the UN security Council extend UNSOM's mandate (now UNTMIS) for two years, until 31 Oct 2026. The US is not going to distract Somalia for the next two years by insisting that a country that does not respect Somalia's territorial integrity take part in AUSSOM.
The fastest way for Ethiopia to join AUSSOM is to repudiate its MOU and acknowledge the unity and indivisibility of the Federal Republic of Somalia. The US is probably pursuing this path, but Abiy is just too hardheaded. Ethiopia will in all likelihood not apologize and will be replaced by countries of Somalia's choice, including Egypt.
Abiy has paid the political cost of recognizing Somaliland without actually getting anything in exchange. Ethiopia is the loser in all of this. Somalia was a close ally of Ethiopia's until Jan of this year, and Ethiopia has now permanently screwed it up.
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I said it before and I'll say it again: Egypt is the far more important ally to America than Ethiopia is. If uncle Sam is serious about peacekeeping in Somalia then Egypt is the obvious choice as they already have proven themselves capable of dealing with insurgents as seen in Sinai.
Ethiopia poisoned its reputation with the west due to the Tigray War and further digged themselves deeper with the MoU. And as you said Abiy is too hardheaded and stubborn to retract the MoU.
I don't know. The idea that the FGS can pick and choose is not grounded in reality. Ethiopia is the biggest neighbour and shares the longest border so it's a natural partner. Removing Ethiopia just because Ethiopia signed a mutually beneficial deal with Somaliland is not rational because it suggests the fight is not existential for the FGS and that Somaliland is an intrinsic part of Somalia which it isn't and has no likelihood of ever becoming again.
Furthermore, the FGS is not fit to choose because it hasn't demonstrated competence in any field of governance. FGS really should be the last to choose. A simple academic exercise says Ethiopia's inclusion is a no brainer, they are tried and tested and ready, to exclude them is self-destructive and the FGS should be steered away from that.
Hilmaam
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Ethiopia has troops outside ATMIS in the country today in Jubbaland and hirshabelle their leaders already said Ethiopia should stay and FGS hasn't done anything to kick them out. I dont think HSM will pull off removing Ethiopia. Country to fragmented and he has to many people who distrust him
Ethiopia will demand buffer against al shabab. For all they know Egypt will purposefully spread chaos and give weapons to groups like al shabab to attack ethiopia. They can also support rebels inside country. I dont see this happening. If HSM pulls it off I will become one of his biggest supporters for life kkk
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