Somalia Says No To Continued Ethiopian Presence Past 2024 And Quint Partners Concur

[Itsnotthateasy]

Ethiopia has troops outside ATMIS in the country today in Jubbaland and hirshabelle their leaders already said Ethiopia should stay and FGS hasn't done anything to kick them out. I dont think HSM will pull off removing Ethiopia. Country to fragmented and he has to many people who distrust him

Ethiopia will demand buffer against al shabab. For all they know Egypt will purposefully spread chaos and give weapons to groups like al shabab to attack ethiopia. They can also support rebels inside country. I dont see this happening. If HSM pulls it off I will become one of his biggest supporters for life kkk

The FGS was specifically told not to remove the Ethiopian deployments.

I think one way this resolves is that AUSSOM is not approved and the ATMIS mandate is extended. There's a lack of interest in financing a new program under new UN rules too which might be the excuse, if there's no new mission there's no reason to finance it under the new rules.

 

[hayran]

A simple academic exercise says Ethiopia's inclusion is a no brainer, they are tried and tested and ready, to exclude them is self-destructive and the FGS should be steered away from that.

ethiopia a better choice than a log time US ally, with 50x more capability and 100x more local support and credibility? tried and tested yet al shabab still exists after nearly 20 years. was this academic excersice done at the king jah rasta college of pan-afrikan studies?

Ethiopia is the biggest neighbour and shares the longest border so it's a natural partner

rich understanding of geopolitics, pakistan and india also share a long border so they must be natural allies.

Removing Ethiopia just because Ethiopia signed a mutually beneficial deal with Somaliland is not rational because it suggests the fight is not existential for the FGS and that Somaliland is an intrinsic part of Somalia which it isn't and has no likelihood of ever becoming again.

it is rational, not only that but somaliland is an intrinsic part of somalia and that was cemented when siilanyo met hassan sheikh. forever the self-declared autonomous breakaway region somalia2

 

[Hilmaam]

The FGS was specifically told not to remove the Ethiopian deployments.

I think one way this resolves is that AUSSOM is not approved and the ATMIS mandate is extended, problem solved. There's a lack of interest in financing a new program under new UN rules too which might be the excuse, if there's no new mission there's no reason to finance it under the new rules.

Ethiopia has 3k soldiers as part of ATMIS, I think they will loose that easy money and probably get boot.

The issue I think will be the 7k outside ATMIS how will FGS get rid of them? And once they are replaced who will take their place. Jubbaland, SWS, and even Hiraan see Ethiopia as buffer against al shabab and FGS

 

[Sup]

I don't know. The idea that the FGS can pick and choose is not grounded in reality. Ethiopia is the biggest neighbour and shares the longest border so it's a natural partner. Removing Ethiopia just because Ethiopia signed a mutually beneficial deal with Somaliland is not rational because it suggests the fight is not existential for the FGS and that Somaliland is an intrinsic part of Somalia which it isn't and has no likelihood of ever becoming again.
Furthermore, the FGS is not fit to choose because it hasn't demonstrated competence in any field of governance. FGS really should be the last to choose. A simple academic exercise says Ethiopia's inclusion is a no brainer, they are tried and tested and ready, to exclude them is self-destructive and the FGS should be steered away from that.

Dear God,

do you believe the shite that’s coming out of your mouth ? Your naivety / delusion is hilarious !

Pardon me, carry on !

 

[Zak12]

how will FGS get rid of them?

FGS will need to engage in serious dialogue with those states and bring back the SNA regiments they pulled away.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Dear God,

do you believe the shite that’s coming out of your mouth ? Your naivety / delusion is hilarious !

Pardon me, carry on !

What part was wrong?

You are using big words to confuse the situation instead of offering substantive criticism.

 

[Hilmaam]

FGS will need to engage in serious dialogue with those states and bring back the SNA regiments they pulled away.

This is answer, but instead HSM is antagonizing these states with constitutional changes. This is 1 reasons im skeptical FGS will remove ethiopia completely

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

This is answer, but instead HSM is antagonizing these states with constitutional changes. This is 1 reasons im skeptical FGS will remove ethiopia completely

I think HSM is interested in a term extension above all else.

 

[Sup]

What part was wrong?

You are using big words to confuse the situation instead of offering substantive criticism.

You think “naivety and delusion” are big words

Maybe work on your vocabulary a bit more before your “become” a “political analyst”

I think I’ve embarrassed you enough with our past conversations, it’s clear your motive is just to sow discord amongst people on here (you do know what discord means right, maybe google can help)


What you wrote is perhaps the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen you write. The mere fact I’m replying to your idiotic reply, makes my head hurt. If you truly believe what you wrote makes any sense, then you my friend have an IQ of a potato.

know as to your question,

The answer to that question should be self explanatory use what little brain cells you have to come to a conclusion.

No wonder why Ethiopia’s economy and government has gone down the toilet. They have muppets like this running the show.

“Substantive criticism kulaha”

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

I don't know. The idea that the FGS can pick and choose is not grounded in reality. Ethiopia is the biggest neighbour and shares the longest border so it's a natural partner. Removing Ethiopia just because Ethiopia signed a mutually beneficial deal with Somaliland is not rational because it suggests the fight is not existential for the FGS and that Somaliland is an intrinsic part of Somalia which it isn't and has no likelihood of ever becoming again.
Furthermore, the FGS is not fit to choose because it hasn't demonstrated competence in any field of governance. FGS really should be the last to choose. A simple academic exercise says Ethiopia's inclusion is a no brainer, they are tried and tested and ready, to exclude them is self-destructive and the FGS should be steered away from that.

There is no should in politics. Very naïve post.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

You think “naivety and delusion” are big words

Maybe work on your vocabulary a bit more before your “become” a “political analyst”

I think I’ve embarrassed you enough with our past conversations, it’s clear your motive is just to sow discord amongst people on here (you do know what discord means right, maybe google can help)


What you wrote is perhaps the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen you write. The mere fact I’m replying to your idiotic reply, makes my head hurt. If you truly believe what you wrote makes any sense, then you my friend have an IQ of a potato.

know as to your question,

The answer to that question should be self explanatory use what little brain cells you have to come to a conclusion.

No wonder why Ethiopia’s economy and government has gone down the toilet. They have muppets like this running the show.

“Substantive criticism kulaha”

I'm just a supporter of common sense in policy in Somalia. If common sense comes across like something technical or analytical thats probably the problem.

Why treat a government like the FGS as sovereign and competent and put in the UNSC while it's under chapter 7. Is that crazy or simply common sense? A government that doesn't manage it's own security making choices for others?

I'm in Ethiopia's corner here because it makes sense.

 

[Sup]

I'm just a supporter of common sense in policy in Somalia. If common sense comes across like something technical or analytical thats probably the problem.

Why treat a government like the FGS as sovereign and competent and put in the UNSC while it's under chapter 7. Is that crazy or simply common sense? A government that doesn't manage it's own security making choices for others?

I'm in Ethiopia's corner here because it makes sense.

Ok champ,

whatever you say. “Common sense” kulaha

Ethiopias corner ?

You national government doesn’t control half of their country,

Millions have died due to the civil war and or famine (AUN)

Your country is bankrupt, inflation is through the roof.

Your national army is fragmented, the ones in Somalia want to claim asylum

Your politicians are seeking asylum overseas (opposition leader and what not)

People have no food nor do they have security, which is resulting in mass exodus out of that shit hole. Yet your “leader” chooses to spend billions on a bloody building, priorities ae

Ethiopia is in a lousier position than Somalia. So I ask you this, where is your sense of morality and or pride coming from exactly ??

 

[Hilmaam]

The only reason egypt interested in somalia is to hurt ethiopia. If it hurts somalia in process and takes down ethiopia same time they will do it. Nobody will save somalia all these countries have an angle. Kenya and ethiopia only in country because they are scared of al shabab they not scared of any FMS or FGS. they are worried al shabab ideology spreads like wild fire . When you have millions of muslim unemployed youth in all three countries its dangerous. plus their ideology transcends borders, clans, and even ethnicity. Kenya and ethiopia will not leave. ATMIS or no ATMIS mark my words

 

[Abdisamad]

Dear God,

do you believe the shite that’s coming out of your mouth ? Your naivety / delusion is hilarious !

Pardon me, carry on !

Obviously this habash is panicking at the thought of a stronger Somalia that isn't under Ethiopian occupation.. Yet another enemy of the Somali people.

 

[DR OSMAN]

apparently this guys office is right inside the Villa Somalia compound, meters from where HSM sleeps

I heard this marehan odey say a long time ago, hawiye talo ma haayo, in loo Taliyo ma rabo wuxu jecel yahay cawaanimadu in lagu wada noolado all because their cawaans who can't govern and the whole nation has to suffer all becaue hawiye have no political talent let's be real.

A real political talents knows how to adjust his communication in miyi, urban, diaspora to the audience not these clowns, they just copy syl or siyad legacies. I will sit down with reer miyi and go all qabyalad and show I can Beat them, I will sit down with an urbanite and show I can still do beezani culture better, I will sit down with diaspora and show them I know global world order that's the ingredient of a real leader who can secure the whole population.

The key to great leaders is knowing your audience and setting and adjusting to win confidence.

 

[Abdisamad]

The only reason egypt interested in somalia is to hurt ethiopia. If it hurts somalia in process and takes down ethiopia same time they will do it. Nobody will save somalia all these countries have an angle. Kenya and ethiopia only in country because they are scared of al shabab they not scared of any FMS or FGS. they are worried al shabab ideology spreads like wild fire . When you have millions of muslim unemployed youth in all three countries its dangerous. plus their ideology transcends borders, clans, and even ethnicity. Kenya and ethiopia will not leave. ATMIS or no ATMIS mark my words

Every nation on earth has an interest, and nations do work with each other based on their common interest.. Beside you can't hurt Somalia more than it is already hurt, plus 30 years of war, I truly believe there's nothing worse than Somalia being under Ethiopian influence /occupation.. Once we remove this desease filled rat from our midst I truly believe Somalia will recover and do well.. Ethiopia can burn for all I care excluding the Somali region, the rest can burn.

 

[Abdisamad]

I heard this marehan odey say a long time ago, hawiye talo ma haayo, in loo Taliyo ma rabo wuxu jecel yahay cawaanimadu in lagu wada noolado all because their cawaans who can't govern and the whole nation has to suffer all becaue hawiye have no political talent let's be real.

It's not hawiyes fault Ethiopia established themselves in Villa Somalia bro.. This was probably done during when Abdullahi Yusuf was the Somali president and the Ethiopians invaded the country to assist his government against the Islamic courts union. Let us not turn this into low iq fkd.. It's an embarrassment to all of us true Somalis, that we have some rats sitting at the core of our nation to spread desease and poison our nation..

 

[DR OSMAN]

It's not hawiyes fault Ethiopia established themselves in Villa Somalia bro.. This was probably done during when Abdullahi Yusuf was the Somali president and the Ethiopians invaded the country to assist his government against the Islamic courts union. Let us not turn this into low iq fkd.. It's an embarrassment to all of us Somalis, we have some rats sitting at the core of our nation to spread desease and poison our nation..

Islamic court union made up of hawiye so now Islam is hawiyenimo lol, listen dummy they joined terrorism because they didn't want a somali govt emerging so they can preserve their haram looting.

They even looted Islam these pagans. What Islam they have waryaa when they raise kids in Muslim looted properties and build mosques with looted money? your a naive kid. Their gaalo madows.

 

[Abdisamad]

Are there any hawiye members on this forum? Apart from the low iq @Jungle

I am looking to unite all Somali brothers for the common good of all tribes, Somali citizens.. Surely there must be intelligent people amongst you who are visionary and who are interested to restore the honor and dignity of the Somali people and nation.. I encourage all intelligent Somalis, with a functioning common sense and reasoning skills to abandon low iq tribalism.. Let us surpass the generations before us... Seeking unity, collaboration and uplifting of the Somali nation and people is not a weakness, it is not something to be ashamed of, and you are not stupid or naive as some of our brothers on here would think.. These are feelings we are conditioned to have and is based 30 years of civil war.. We are fragmented, but we need to collect the pieces and heal again.. I'm confident we can make this happen.

 

[Sup]

Islamic court union made up of hawiye so now Islam is hawiyenimo lol, listen dummy they joined terrorism because they didn't want a somali govt emerging so they can preserve their haram looting.

They even looted Islam these pagans. What Islam they have waryaa when they raise kids in Muslim looted properties and build mosques with looted money? your a naive kid. Their gaalo madows.

You got some serious issues bro, Wallahi I genuinely feel sorry for you. Get some help sxb.