Somaliland In Economic Collapse

[Thegoodshepherd]

@SirLancelLord nin laba dekad iyo airport hal mar dhisaya ayaa la doodaysa.

Somaliland has been unable to build a road from Burco to Hargeisa for over 32 years. Ha iigu faanin khudaarta Oromada.

Habar Yoonis 32 sano Ciise Muuse ayaa doolarka ka guranaya. Gun gun dhashay. $240 millionka sanadki Somaliland u soo xaroora, $50 million oo jid laami ah waa laguu qoori waayey. Adoon ayaa tahay.

 

[Abaq]

Notice how Darood panic at the idea of a confederacy even tho this would pass the ‘unity’ test. They are terrified to be playing second fiddle to RX.

Can’t wait for the first Hawiye-RX - President/VP. Inshallah this treat comes early in 2026

War Eelaayda ha nagu soo kicinina. They are the true laandheer of the South (as OG numbers are divided by borders ofc). If they actually demand their rights, they will be president for life

 

[Abaq]

“Somalia’s future economic hub, Kismaayo” MX and OG are gonna have a field day in that place after Ahmed blackie leaves and our friend here thinks it’s gonna be the financial hub of the country
@bidenkulaha

It will be, but minus a certain community. Kismaayo has everything Xamar has and more (proximity to the Kenyan market and EAC by extension). Once Jubbaland is fully liberated and the road connections built, it will be a boomtown iA

Your only hope for Kismaayo not developing is wishing for another war which is not gonna happen

 

[Abaq]

The person who rules decides allocation and use of said reaource not tribe whose lands resource lies.

Also Jubbaland issue is pending now way Irrir or Ellay will allow Jaberti overall control of that state. They can rule Kismayo but not ovetall state. Its on the checklist as pending actions. HSM will get to it. Predident Madoobe knows it

Urur Samaale and Eelaay have nothing in Jubbaland. Jubbaland begins and ends with Ogaden, even the hard headed MX have been made to accept that by force.

 

[Garaad.XIV]

@Prince of HS @bidenkulaha @Rationale

Somalia’s economy outside of the 10 largest cities remains primary sector focused. The livestock sector has been maxed out. What remains?

Mining (mostly oil): Daroor & Nugaal valleys
Agriculture: Shabelle river maxed out, only the Juba valley has any growth prospects. Rainfed farming can expand into Afmadow and Badhaadhe districts.
Fisheries: almost entirely along the shelf of Xaafuun peninsula.
Trade corridors: Addis-Dolo-Kismayo, Addis-Jigjiga-Garacad, Nairobi-Garissa-Kismayo etc..

Somalia has no future without Darood resources.
The little Somalia has is held by one clan.
Koofi yar ayaan xiran doona.

The problem with your statement is that you are assuming that resources in other clans regions have been fully used. While not only 10% has been used.

 

[Rationale]

@Prince of HS @bidenkulaha @Rationale

Somalia’s economy outside of the 10 largest cities remains primary sector focused. The livestock sector has been maxed out. What remains?

Mining (mostly oil): DaroorNugaal valleys
Agriculture: Shabelle river maxed out, only the Juba valley has any growth prospects. Rainfed farming can expand into Afmadow and Badhaadhe districts.
Fisheries: almost entirely along the shelf of Xaafuun peninsula.
Trade corridors: Addis-Dolo-Kismayo, Addis-Jigjiga-Garacad, Nairobi-Garissa-Kismayo etc..

Somalia has no future without Darood resources.
The little Somalia has is held by one clan.
Koofi yar ayaan xiran doona.

Abgaal baadiyo Cadale district(no where near the river)

OG Baadiyo Afmadow district

MJ Baadiyo Karkaar district(I think)

You need to populate these lands saaxiib, I can go 10s of miles in every direction without seeing any sign of human activity.



Source on the fish flocking to Xafuun would be appreciated, first time hearing of this. Oil seems to be an elusive resource in Somalia I don't even know where to begin.

@Thegoodshepherd I'm interested in hard evidence, Berbera-Wajaale corridor generates hard cash, Xamar generates Hard cash yet to see JL or PL matching those numbers. Anyways I genuinely don't think you can keep Jubba bank in a stable Somalia, Darod are like 10% of the people living there. You simply lack the numbers.

 

[Prince of HS]

Abgaal baadiyo Cadale district(no where near the river)
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OG Baadiyo Afmadow district
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MJ Baadiyo Karkaar district(I think)
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You need to populate these lands saaxiib, I can go 10s of miles in every direction without seeing any sign of human activity.



Source on the fish flocking to Xafuun would be appreciated, first time hearing of this. Oil seems to be an elusive resource in Somalia I don't even know where to begin.

@Thegoodshepherd I'm interested in hard evidence, Berbera-Wajaale corridor generates hard cash, Xamar generates Hard cash yet to see JL or PL matching those numbers. Anyways I genuinely don't think you can keep Jubba bank in a stable Somalia, Darod are like 10% of the people living there. You simply lack the numbers.

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[Abaq]

Agriculture wise, go on google earth and compare the area around Jubba river in Gedo to middle and lower Shabelle and see which one has more potential. I don’t count middle Jubba as Darood because it is D&M, Bantu and Southern Dir majority.

Most offshore oil in Somalia is located from Jazeera beach in Banadir to Hobyo: Galmudug has the most uranium in the country and I wouldn’t be surprised if it had the most onshore oil. We have the most strategic land in the country inhabiting the central and south central parts and not to mention the crown jewel that quite literally trumps anything Daroods can bring to the table - the capital Mogadishu. We are also the largest clan in Italian Somaliland proven by pretty much every census. Apologies but I don’t think Daroods are anyway close in a competition with Hawiye in Somalia. Only if you say ‘Somaliweyne’ do you reach out potential/league.

I don’t know about the rest of what you said, but claiming OG doesn’t live in Middle Jubba is just exposing your clear bias. They do live there, in particular Cawlyahan. Just like OG still live in Lower Jubba to this day. I don’t know why you guys think we just abandoned Middle Jubba but somehow remained in Lower Jubba. Most of you guys on really accepted that we live in Lower Jubba recently, when we started posting news and pics about the area. Insha Allah when Bu’aale is freed you’ll see the truth there as well and every laangaab ciilan will have to burn with rage

 

[Abaq]

Abgaal baadiyo Cadale district(no where near the river)
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OG Baadiyo Afmadow district
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MJ Baadiyo Karkaar district(I think)
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You need to populate these lands saaxiib, I can go 10s of miles in every direction without seeing any sign of human activity.



Source on the fish flocking to Xafuun would be appreciated, first time hearing of this. Oil seems to be an elusive resource in Somalia I don't even know where to begin.

@Thegoodshepherd I'm interested in hard evidence, Berbera-Wajaale corridor generates hard cash, Xamar generates Hard cash yet to see JL or PL matching those numbers. Anyways I genuinely don't think you can keep Jubba bank in a stable Somalia, Darod are like 10% of the people living there. You simply lack the numbers.

10% kulahaa. Have you been there to know what the numbers are like? Or have relatives from the area? You guys are the same people that believe that OG are refugees from Ethiopia and NFD. As for your Afmadow pic, then that is due to land use patterns. OG are nearly exclusively pastoralists. The number in that district and other free districts are booming as natives return and nomads settle. Just see how Dhoobley has exploded in size the past few years

 

[Rationale]

10% kulahaa. Have you been there to know what the numbers are like? Or have relatives from the area? You guys are the same people that believe that OG are refugees from Ethiopia and NFD. As for your Afmadow pic, then that is due to land use patterns. OG are nearly exclusively pastoralists. The number in that district and other free districts are booming as natives return and nomads settle. Just see how Dhoobley has exploded in size the past few years

I have inlaws who were 3rd generation reer Jubboyinka before fleeing Morgans war on Hawiye. 10% of jubba banks is a generous estimation. Luuq, Baardheere, Jilib, Jamaame, Buaale, Saakow are the biggest settlements on the river bank, in how many of those do you make the majority?

 

[Rationale]

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[Somali Saayid]

Urur Samaale and Eelaay have nothing in Jubbaland. Jubbaland begins and ends with Ogaden, even the hard headed MX have been made to accept that by force.

Waarya this is some simple spelling shit. I know you don't like us but Jubbaland starts with J n ends with L. If anything Ogaden reign starts with fufus and ends with fufus.

 

[Abaq]

I have inlaws who were 3rd generation reer Jubboyinka before fleeing Morgans war on Hawiye. 10% of jubba banks is a generous estimation. Luuq, Baardheere, Jilib, Jamaame, Buaale, Saakow are the biggest settlements on the river bank, in how many of those do you make the majority?

Bu’aale is OG majority. Saakow I am not sure. Jamaame we will on the side near Kismaayo. Meelaha kale waxbo igama gelin. From Goobweyn to near Baardheere, the river bank on the Eastern side is dominated by OG.

If you recall, just a year or so ago you all believed OG was a minority in Lower Jubba till we made you guys accept that we dominate it nearly exclusively. And just like we finally made you accept the fact that we live in Lower Jubba, we make you accept the fact we live in Middle Jubba too

 

[TimaJilic]

I like how you guys playing on HAG, one time IRIR brothers, other time you called them Nigerian .

Doofaar Ismaaciil working hard si Hawiye isaga maslaxaan

Do you know this man is Samaroon and not even Isaaq. Cabaad kii baa idinka dhamaaday

 

[Midwestern]

Jumuriyada badhida wayn first tried the suqaar tactic in order to defeat the powerful harti army. The Urur Somali is another pathetic way of asking other Somalis for help but our yamyam and qaadaad weeyn neighbors are too smart to fall for that which is surprising considering their low iq.

 

[Prince of HS]

Jumuriyada badhida wayn first tried the suqaar tactic in order to defeat the powerful harti army. The Urur Somali is another pathetic way of asking other Somalis for help but our yamyam and qaadaad weeyn neighbors are too smart to fall for that which is surprising considering their low iq.

Why do you daroods always have to involve us in your bullsh*t for a clan you guys always boast about online constantly about being smarter then and looking down upon, you guys sure do calcaal about us a lot to me it just seems like a coping mechanism for 1991 because I don’t think you guys were smarter when in dadaab and utanaga. In fact that’s where the shameful ‘68’ iq test was done

 

[Midwestern]

Why do you daroods always have to involve us in your bullsh*t for a clan you guys always boast about online constantly about being smarter then and looking down upon, you guys sure do calcaal about us a lot to me it just seems like a coping mechanism for 1991 because I don’t think you guys were smarter when in dadaab and utanaga. In fact that’s where the shameful ‘68’ iq test was done

I fkd with some of my close hawiye friends irl but one thing they all feel uncomfortable about is when they’re called urur Somali. Only few Hawiye social media people use it for few clicks

 

[0117]

@Prince of HS @bidenkulaha @Rationale

Somalia’s economy outside of the 10 largest cities remains primary sector focused. The livestock sector has been maxed out. What remains?

Mining (mostly oil): Daroor & Nugaal valleys
Agriculture: Shabelle river maxed out, only the Juba valley has any growth prospects. Rainfed farming can expand into Afmadow and Badhaadhe districts.
Fisheries: almost entirely along the shelf of Xaafuun peninsula.
Trade corridors: Addis-Dolo-Kismayo, Addis-Jigjiga-Garacad, Nairobi-Garissa-Kismayo etc..

Somalia has no future without Darood resources.
The little Somalia has is held by one clan.
Koofi yar ayaan xiran doona.

Why are you sharing imaginary trade corridors with Ethiopia when none of the ports you mentioned are highlighted in the Ethiopia 30 year infrastructure master plan that they released last year?

http://ethiotransport.gov.et/userfiles/media/default/files/summary-report-221109-201100.pdf

Mogadishu port has significant Development opportunities but it needs to cancel it's agreement with the current operators for it to reach its potential and serve Somalia and Ethiopia.

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Feasibility studies on the railway between Dire Dawa and Berbera will happen in the next few years.Do you think the administration in Jijiga will deprive themselves of significant development coming their way

You mention oil?

Are you still stuck in 2012 where only water was found

Somalia with or without Somaliland has a very bright.Mogadishu is testament to development Somalis can lead without an effective government for over 30 years.Imagine when the government completes its constitution and gets access to the world finances for development projects? It'll have the highest GDP growth in the world for a few years.

Unfortunately there is a demographic that is against this , against a centralised Somalia , against sharing resources according to population, undermine the government at every opportunity , fuels conflict by importing trafficking weapons for terrorist organisation.Those times are offer and enjoy the show

 

[FBIsomalia]

Doofaar Ismaaciil working hard si Hawiye isaga maslaxaan

Do you know this man is Samaroon and not even Isaaq. Cabaad kii baa idinka dhamaaday

Jeegaan to me anyone work under SL.

 

[repo]

Why are you sharing imaginary trade corridors with Ethiopia when none of the ports you mentioned are highlighted in the Ethiopia 30 year infrastructure master plan that they released last year?

http://ethiotransport.gov.et/userfiles/media/default/files/summary-report-221109-201100.pdf

Mogadishu port has significant Development opportunities but it needs to cancel it's agreement with the current operators for it to reach its potential and serve Somalia and Ethiopia.

Extract images from the report.

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Feasibility studies on the railway between Dire Dawa and Berbera will happen in the next few years.Do you think the administration in Jijiga will deprive themselves of significant development coming their way View attachment 266251

You mention oil?

Are you still stuck in 2012 where only water was found


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Somalia with or without Somaliland has a very bright.Mogadishu is testament to development Somalis can lead without an effective government for over 30 years.Imagine when the government completes its constitution and gets access to the world finances for development projects? It'll have the highest GDP growth in the world for a few years.

Unfortunately there is a demographic that is against this , against a centralised Somalia , against sharing resources according to population, undermine the government at every opportunity , fuels conflict by importing trafficking weapons for terrorist organisation.Those times are offer and enjoy the show

@Thegoodshepherd is talking about exploiting local resources to create an economy and you are talking about piggybacking off Ethiopia's population by importing their goods. This difference in mindset is why we can build a port and you can not. Lakala adkaaday.