Taliban ban all women from university

[Kane]

Surely it should be opposite? Men are supposedly providers and STEM is what provides the most money.

No it should be the same for both females and males.

A man studying Philosophy defeats the purpose of what he is meant to bring to the table, which is solely employment.

Same as women studying social studies.

Men who aren’t very academic or aren’t into stem should be be forced to apprenticeship from the age of 14. They should be banned from university and should be trained to be in the work force.

If this idea of yours was implemented in the black/ Somali community. It would really change the state of fatherless boys, who continuously fall victim to the gang culture.
Plus they would learn the importance of hard work and responsibility.

Your silly rationale for stripping women of the choice to educate themselves on an array of topics can be equally applied to men. In fact, it makes more sense.

Most women start university with the idea of empowering themselves, by gaining knowledge. Only for them to be indoctrinated with false ideals, and taken advantage of by evil men, who know the ways of naive girls.who lack any real life experience outside of their close circles.

at the end most women come out lost and turned out.

On average “Educated” women are unfit for marriage, and nearly all career women are pump and dump material. Sorry to be so crude.

 

[Ahmedahmed5000]

Funny how when talking about a country that is being sanctioned and has it's own money withheld by westerners trying to cause a famine, the biggest topic is "muh womens education". This is a non-issue.

Iran is sanctioned, and doesn't ban women from education. When you're sanctioned society needs to work collectively to overcome the problems but the taliban go straight to women.

 

[Angelina]

If this idea of yours was implemented in the black/ Somali community. It would really change the state of fatherless boys, who continuously fall victim to the gang culture.
Plus they would learn the importance of hard work and responsibility.


Most women start university with the idea of empowering themselves, by gaining knowledge. Only for them to be indoctrinated with false ideals, and taken advantage of by evil men, who know the ways of naive girls.who lack any real life experience outside of their close circles.

If you actually ventured out to the real world you’d know most women go for the same reason as men-jobs and a life.

This is why redpill content is dangerous. It is a form of radicalism of low IQ men.

at the end most women come out lost and turned out.

On average “Educated” women are unfit for marriage, and nearly all career women are pump and dump material. Sorry to be so crude.

Statistically educated women are much more likely to get married. Most wealthy men are married to educated men. Educated women are much more likely to NOT have kids outside of marriage. But facts aren’t your forte and your insecurity is clear to see.

Grow up.

 

[JohnCena]

I mean it's not surprising since the Quran is pretty misogynistic if we're being real

You can't be a feminist and be a Muslim. It's contradictory.

Same way you can't be apart of the LGBTQ and be Muslim.

 

[Nikka]

I mean it's not surprising since the Quran is pretty misogynistic if we're being real

You can't be a feminist and be a Muslim. It's contradictory.

Same way you can't be apart of the LGBTQ and be Muslim.

How is the Qur'aan misogynistic? Is it because it acknowledges the differences between men and women? Also the Qur'aan admonishes Sodomy which is an act not an identity. You don't see straight people referring to themselves as cis because sexual attraction is not an Identity.


Plus Sodomy is a health risk

 

[Nilotic]

I mean it's not surprising since the Quran is pretty misogynistic if we're being real

You can't be a feminist and be a Muslim. It's contradictory.

Same way you can't be apart of the LGBTQ and be Muslim.

The Quran is the least misogynistic Holy Book; Judaism and Christianity do not enumerate all the rights that Islam affords women.

 

[JohnCena]

How is the Qur'aan misogynistic? Is it because it acknowledges the differences between men and women? Also the Qur'aan admonishes Sodomy which is an act not an identity. You don't see straight people referring to themselves as cis because sexual attraction is not an Identity.


Plus Sodomy is a health risk

~#Quran 2:228 - Men are a degree above women. 2:282 - Women's testimony is worth half of a man's (cause women make errors, unlike men)

~#Quran 4:3 - Men can marry up to 4 women or sex slaves (no equivalent for women). 4:11 Male children to inherit twice what females inherit.

~#Quran 4:34 - Men are in charge of women. Men can discipline "disobedient" wives, up to and including beating their wives till they obey.



The Qu'ran has more privileges given to Men than Women(whether you believe its right or not is up to the person).

Men benefit much more from Islam than Women do.

I'm not a feminist btw nor do I care about their white supremacy movement. Islam is a good religion with strong values but to say it's not misogynistic is false.

 

[Nikka]

~#Quran 2:228 - Men are a degree above women. 2:282 - Women's testimony is worth half of a man's (cause women make errors, unlike men)

~#Quran 4:3 - Men can marry up to 4 women or sex slaves (no equivalent for women). 4:11 Male children to inherit twice what females inherit.

~#Quran 4:34 - Men are in charge of women. Men can discipline "disobedient" wives, up to and including beating their wives till they obey.



The Qu'ran has more privileges given to Men than Women(whether you believe its right or not is up to the person).

Men benefit much more from Islam than Women do.

I'm not a feminist btw nor do I care about their white supremacy movement. Islam is a good religion with strong values but to say it's not misogynistic is false.

Patriarchy does not mean misogyny. Only a small minority of men have been historically polygamous. Even so women having 4 husbands would be impractical for many reasons one of which being that the children's lineage would be put into doubt. As for the wife beating verse bring a scholar that says you can beat your wife. All known tafsir mention using a Miswak.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9lFwBIDE0JU

 

[Man with a garuun]

This is an official statement from the Ministry of Higher Learning in the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. So basically the ban is temporary and they're reforming the education system to make sure it is compliant with the shariah.

 

[Man with a garuun]

The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan is building trans-railway throughout Afghanistan. Maasha'Allah

 

[Hamzza]

This is an official statement from the Ministry of Higher Learning in the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. So basically the ban is temporary and they're reforming the education system to make sure it is compliant with the shariah.

Taliban's statement on why they temporarily banned higher education for women:

1. Women are living far away from their homes without Mahram (male family members) which is Haram

2. Most students were not observing the Hijab as is mandatory in our religion

3. The root of corruption is free-mixing, and sadly this has not been fixed

4. Some fields are not appropriate for the status of the woman, because they are much higher than that, like farming and engineering

Future plans and the reforms they will introduce

-We are vigorously working on making a curriculum that adheres to the Quran and Sunnah.
-We are not against teaching nor are we against Afghans nor are we against women.
-This decision was made to uphold the value and dignity of our women.
-We will begin teaching women in light of the Sharī‘ah and within its boundaries.
-We have sacrificed for our people for over 20 years, where were the people (criticizing us) when we were being bombed day and night!?
-We are aiming for an environment that upholds the dignity and honor of our brothers and sisters

Another speaker says:

-All schools and universities shall be reopened immediately after the needed repairs are done.

-Salaries of female teachers will not be stopped.

 

[NordicSomali]

Nope, it never did traditionally, not in Somali culture or Arab culture.

in only works in your own teenage fantasies.

The Sharia fiqh of women having their own accommodation goes back a thousand yrs, but we have little Farax with a whole lot of fantasies saying otherwise.

Where do you think Taliban get their inspiration ?

 

[Angelina]

This is an official statement from the Ministry of Higher Learning in the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. So basically the ban is temporary and they're reforming the education system to make sure it is compliant with the shariah.

Taliban's statement on why they temporarily banned higher education for women:

1. Women are living far away from their homes without Mahram (male family members) which is Haram

2. Most students were not observing the Hijab as is mandatory in our religion

3. The root of corruption is free-mixing, and sadly this has not been fixed

4. Some fields are not appropriate for the status of the woman, because they are much higher than that, like farming and engineering

Future plans and the reforms they will introduce

-We are vigorously working on making a curriculum that adheres to the Quran and Sunnah.
-We are not against teaching nor are we against Afghans nor are we against women.
-This decision was made to uphold the value and dignity of our women.
-We will begin teaching women in light of the Sharī‘ah and within its boundaries.
-We have sacrificed for our people for over 20 years, where were the people (criticizing us) when we were being bombed day and night!?
-We are aiming for an environment that upholds the dignity and honor of our brothers and sisters

Another speaker says:

-All schools and universities shall be reopened immediately after the needed repairs are done.

-Salaries of female teachers will not be stopped.

they’re so poor atm that even the men that get university degree will not be able to get a job. They’re starving.

 

[Angelina]

Where do you think Taliban get their inspiration ?

Pashtun culture mixed with Taqlid of fatwas mostly based on Urf (culture).

Most traditional Eastern cultures are indeed misogynistic mixed that with religion and you have a fiqh like this and women are told they have to accept it because it’s a fiqh of a scholar. It’s like the original point I was making, when you break it down women end up with 0 rights as a lot of the rights of women according to men in Islam can be given and taken.

 

[World]

Taliban's statement on why they temporarily banned higher education for women:

1. Women are living far away from their homes without Mahram (male family members) which is Haram

2. Most students were not observing the Hijab as is mandatory in our religion

3. The root of corruption is free-mixing, and sadly this has not been fixed

4. Some fields are not appropriate for the status of the woman, because they are much higher than that, like farming and engineering

Future plans and the reforms they will introduce

-We are vigorously working on making a curriculum that adheres to the Quran and Sunnah.
-We are not against teaching nor are we against Afghans nor are we against women.
-This decision was made to uphold the value and dignity of our women.
-We will begin teaching women in light of the Sharī‘ah and within its boundaries.
-We have sacrificed for our people for over 20 years, where were the people (criticizing us) when we were being bombed day and night!?
-We are aiming for an environment that upholds the dignity and honor of our brothers and sisters

Another speaker says:

-All schools and universities shall be reopened immediately after the needed repairs are done.

-Salaries of female teachers will not be stopped.

that clarifies a lot but there isn’t anything wrong with women entering agriculture and engineering

 

[Angelina]

that clarifies a lot but there isn’t anything wrong with women entering agriculture and engineering

These are the same men who will then turn around to suggest that men are superior by using the fact that men have built and created new inventions, whilst simultaneously banning women.

It’s age old sexism at play, the Victorians thought that if women become too educated and intelligent, she might start having issues with her womb.

Misogynistic men are all the same whether Muslim or Christian. But ours tend to use religion to back their misogyny which is scary as it will result in more feminism, more liberalisms and ultimately those questioning the deen.

 

[Hamzza]

These are the same men who will then turn around to suggest that men are superior by using the fact that men have built and created new inventions, whilst simultaneously banning women.

It’s age old sexism at play, the Victorians thought that if women become too educated and intelligent, she might start having issues with her womb.

Misogynistic men are all the same whether Muslim or Christian. But ours tend to use religion to back their misogyny which is scary as it will result in more feminism, more liberalisms and ultimately those questioning the deen.

Taliban is saying Afghani women's honor is higher than these lowly professions, i.e. Agriculture and Engineering.

 

[Angelina]

Guys what is funny is that Talibans officials are educating their daughters in Doha. So it’s one rule for me and one rule for thee.

Taliban is saying Afghani women's honor is higher than these lowly professions, i.e. Agriculture and Engineering.

it isn’t lowly. Since when is engineeeing lowly and since when do they get to decide when it is perfectly halal?

 

[Hamzza]

Guys what is funny is that Talibans officials are educating their daughters in Doha. So it’s one rule for me and one rule for thee.

Qatar is a conservative Islamic country. Afghanistan's Education system before Taliban's takeover which is still in place btw was based on western standards.

it isn’t lowly. Since when is engineeeing lowly and since when do they get to decide when it is perfectly halal?

They didn't say it was Haram. The cultures of the world are different from region to region; what is highly esteemed in one country is considered lowly in another. The Taliban is the legitimate government of Afghanistan and people seem to support it, so they know Maslaxadda Shacabkooda and we are not in a position to judge them.

 

[Angelina]

Qatar is a conservative Islamic country. Afghanistan's Education system before Taliban's takeover which is still in place btw was based on western standards.

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They didn't say it was Haram. The cultures of the world are different from region to region; what is highly esteemed in one country is considered lowly in another. The Taliban is the legitimate government of Afghanistan and people seem to support it, so they know Maslaxadda Shacabkooda and we are not in a position to judge them.

Their people are starving mate. Which is why i find it mental that the first thing they do is focus on women’s education. It is wild. Btw, a lot of boys have been leaving university chanting ‘not without our sisters’ so no, they don’t support it.

With regards to culture, I was waiting for you to fall into that trap. Muslim women in Muslim countries mostly do STEM unlike the West. Engineering, sciences and Medicine is the culture of education there. Hence you’re chatting rubbish. It’s pure misogyny.