Taliban ban all women from university

Nikka · Dec 22, 2022

I am not a scholar but I was just pointing that such marriages weren't considered abnormal by westerners until the last century.

anonimo · Dec 22, 2022

Hamzza said:
The reason why I think it has much to do with saving face is the cope of "Aisha" was 19 when the prophet ﷺ married her" when we have Sahih Hadiths that state otherwise, a lot of Muslims nowadays think its embarrassing and should be hidden, that's why they invented this new ages for Aisha RA. The prophet ﷺ had staunch enemies at his time, they called him everything and accused him of being a liar, a sorcerer and a madman, they said he copies the Quran from human beings... but never did they accuse him of marrying a child Aisha.

Otherwise, I agree with your essays.

That is the biggest historical fraud about the Prophet SAWS that apologist Muslims have been peddling in modern times. They do not realise how much of a Trojan horse argument it is as they use this cope to create a Sunnah argument for restricting the marriage age for consent etc., but they do not realise that Quranic evidence is also against them hence they are also calls to 'reintepret' the Qur'an to reflect the 'modern' times we live in. Shit is a slippery slope towards religious evolution as has already occurred within Judaism and Christianity.

Instead of acknowledging the historical facts surrounding early marriage, and it's continued practice all over the world, why fabricate a narrative that is evidently refuted by the Qur'an and Sunnah. Who are they trying to appease? Their confused Westernised Muslim audience and Western critics of Islam? You cannot hide stuff that is Black and White nor will you convince everyone of the righteousness of the Deen by creating a false narrative.

I personally wouldn't want any of my female relative married off in their early teens etc. but I am sure as hell not going to twist the Deen to support my stance. People have to find their own balance imo but don't force your own views on certain subjects to align with the Deen cos it is a recipe for disaster.

World · Dec 22, 2022

anonimo said:
This has nothing to do with Westerners bro, directly speaking. Some of the folk in these forum are caught between two worlds regarding their understanding of what is right and wrong morally speaking; the societal morals of the society they were raised in which has become relatively dominant globally due to historical Western imperial dominance (physical and ideological), and their own sociocultural/ religious background.

I don't think it has much to do with saving face but their own rejection of social practices they view as being 'paedophilic', 'misogynistic'. This would not be an issue if these practices were alien to their own socioreligious background but they encounter an ideological conundrum when the faith/ancestral society that they subscribe to is in contradiction with their bespoke value system hence why they lash out against you even though what you have spoken us the truth in this thread. Easier to shoot the messenger than challenge the message with reasoned debate.

I have noticed a similar trend in other controversial subjects such as concubinage. I was laughing inside at the mental gymnastics some folk were engaging in to rationalise religious concubinage to themselves; they were using words like 'consent', how will a captured woman whose tribe or nation has been defeated/enslaved be asked for consent by her enslaver during a sexual encounter?

By my own admission, I am not the most religious person out there but I ain't completely ignorant of the Deen hence why I accept it as it is. The delusion and confusion displayed by some folk stems from an inability to accept or find an accommodation between one's own moral compass and the Deen hence the attacks on you and others who quote Islamic facts that they find hard to digest. This type of cognitive dissonance can possibly lead to Kufr hence why folk like @Abu Ash’ari adopt an 'apologist' stance regarding some matters.

@ me next time warya