The need for Somaliweyn, through the case of Jordan

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Bro, give up. There's no bargaining with a group of humans who sold their own sea, invite foreign fishing vessels and blame alshabab on a Somali Businessman thousands of miles away. They are not interested in a functioning country. Stop flogging a dead horse.
Seems like you've become a fatalist...
:umad:

If we don't get a leader like Bismark then the bantu hordes will take over the south & the Habesha/Oromos will annex the northern territories. We've already lost Somali galbeed & Konfuur galbeed(NFD)...we'll definitely stay on the losing streak if nothing changes in this century.
:manny:
 
Jordan aah?!

Look at this mess:

http://www.timesofisrael.com/account-of-king-husseins-1973-war-warning-still-deemed-too-harmful-to-release/


Which makes total sense since the prick was a CIA asset:

http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1933053_1933052_1933050,00.html


Meanwhile his piece of shit son, who fangirls over Star Trek (proposed a Stark Trek mega theme park in the midst of mass corruption and poverty), lazes on his yacht frequently - and is occasionally urinated on by prostitutes (allegedly). He can't even speak the language of his subjects - and he's Hashemite on top of that. :snoop:

Jordan is a fabricated country, established by Colonial Britain, and maintained by Israel. That song just pissed me off.

Have a blessed day.
 
Just don't expect me to come to your silly May 18th parties. :drakekidding:
Silly? You sure you've fully converted bro?:farole:
im confused. Do you support somaliland or not? :what1:
Your posts are going all over the place
I am a Somalilander! Long live the Republic of Somaliland!
Seems like you've become a fatalist...
:umad:

If we don't get a leader like Bismark then the bantu hordes will take over the south & the Habesha/Oromos will annex the northern territories. We've already lost Somali galbeed & Konfuur galbeed(NFD)...we'll definitely stay on the losing streak if nothing changes in this century.
:manny:
Survival of the fittest. If you're too weak then you deserve that. Bantu people are much better as their cities across africa are beautiful and rich. Just look at kigali and compare that to mogadishu
 
Jordan aah?!

Look at this mess:

http://www.timesofisrael.com/account-of-king-husseins-1973-war-warning-still-deemed-too-harmful-to-release/


Which makes total sense since the prick was a CIA asset:

http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1933053_1933052_1933050,00.html


Meanwhile his piece of shit son, who fangirls over Star Trek (proposed a Stark Trek mega theme park in the midst of mass corruption and poverty), lazes in his yacht frequently - occasionally urinated on by prostitutes (allegedly). He can't even speak the language of his subjects - and on top of that he's a Hashemite. :snoop:

Jordan is a fabricated country, established by Colonial Britain, and maintained by Israel. That song just pissed me off.

Have a blessed day.

His son will be the best leader in the Muslim world, and the arab world. At the age he is already making speaches to the UN security council, HH will surely be a great asset! 3ash al malik!
 
Seems like you've become a fatalist...
:umad:

If we don't get a leader like Bismark then the bantu hordes will take over the south & the Habesha/Oromos will annex the northern territories. We've already lost Somali galbeed & Konfuur galbeed(NFD)...we'll definitely stay on the losing streak if nothing changes in this century.
:manny:

Bismarck had German nationalism on his side. Any Somali would not only have to contend Ethiopia and Kenya, but also tribalist Somalis. Bismarck wasn't working with low IQ savages but a collection of well-run German principalities and kingdoms.
 
Silly? You sure you've fully converted bro?:farole:

I am a Somalilander! Long live the Republic of Somaliland!

Survival of the fittest. If you're too weak then you deserve that. Bantu people are much better as their cities across africa are beautiful and rich. Just look at kigali and compare that to mogadishu
Bantus may have peace, but their cities are still inferior. If we unite we can easily surpass the bantus economically.
 
Bantus may have peace, but their cities are still inferior. If we unite we can easily surpass the bantus economically.

Think of it this way. I'm a bank and you want a business loan. I ask you what collateral you have as well as your business proposal, market-research, credit-rating and track record. You come to me after multiple bankruptcies, evictions, divorce and the fact that your sleeping in your car because your wife stole your house and is living with her boyfriend (let's call him Ethiokenya). Would you expect me to sanction that loan?
 
Bismarck had German nationalism on his side. Any Somali would not only have to contend Ethiopia and Kenya, but also tribalist Somalis. Bismarck wasn't working with low IQ savages but a collection of well-run German principalities and kingdoms.
You have a valid point sxb, our situation is very different. The Germans had no concept of qabiil, they knew they belonged to a common nation that just happened to be divided by noble/royal families. So what exactly do you suggest to rectify our situation?
 
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You have a valid point sxb, our situation is very different. The Germans had no concept of qabiil, they knew they belonged to a common nation that just happened to be divided by noble/royal families. So what exactly can we do to rectify our situation?

I believe Somaliland should be allowed to officially secede from the union. A recognised Somaliland would be free from xabashi political influence and could act as a shield against Somalia's enemies, until.Somalia can develop the political and military infrastructure to defend itself. I believe that Somalia should do everything it can to stabilise it's regions, bring peace and administration to the rest of the country. I believe it should invest in creating free, transparent and fair elections. It should completely abandon tribal politics and go for one man one vote. It should follow the constituency and local elections of the UK. It should get rid of written constitutions and work on precedent and xeer. Once Somalia is at an economically and politically mature state, then we can both come to the table about a possible union, depending of on a referendum and democratic vote.
 

waraabe

Your superior
for Somalilanders who believe in the union

can you explain to me why somaliwayn never worked in 1960-1991? I am not talking about the failing of getting the regions in kenya and Ethiopia back?
- back then you can say there was somaliwayn nationalism so why.



I would like to particularly hear @jugjugwacwac

secondly- why do isaaq make emotional decisions. Everyone else works for their own interests so why is it that isaaq make emotional decisions rather then rational decisions that benefit them?

-I believe the emotional isaaq rushed into a union without thinking about anything else purely for somalinimo, few months within the said union they saw everyone else working for their own interest rather then the national interest and bam

kkkk I mean even SNM got screwed over by USC when it came to power sharing :icon lol::icon lol:
 
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