The One Who Believes In Secularism Is A Kafir - Shaykh Salih Al-Fawzan

[The Inquisitive]

False, sharia literally means “law”. It’s required for any Muslim nation to apply this in their land. ISIS aren’t a muslim caliph or leader are they? Somalia applies sharia, Saudi applies Sharia. Yes, anyone who’s MUSLIM whom does not apply to Allah’s law is a kaffir. Is this hard to understand?

Saudia Arabia is a monarchy and Somalia is democratic republic (not a theocracy) and no they don't implement Sharia law totally, there's no Islamic state which implements Sharia law totally except ISIS and other khawarij groups so good luck with that takfir.

 

[The Inquisitive]

secularism is shirk, secularists believe man is equal to Allah in terms of lawgiving/judgement

Believing secularism is better than sharia also shows that the person thinks humans are better judges than Allah.

Shirk is associating Allah with other dieties, and secularism is the separation of religion and state. Simple.

 

[reer]

Yes but people were oppressed. They banned the hijab for no reason

i think the ban was overturned. turkey is sensitive because if a president becomes too religious the military overthrow him and go back to square one. it happened before.

 

[المهندس]

Shirk is associating Allah with other dieties, and secularism is the separation of religion and state. Simple.

Allah is the only law giver, humans governing with their made up laws is associating partners with Allah..

Secularism violates Tawheed Ruboobiyah so its shirk.

 

[The Inquisitive]

Yes but people were oppressed. They banned the hijab for no reason

But now let's implement Sharia law and make Hijab mandatory right? You lot are hypocrites lmao

 

[Invader]

But now let's implement Sharia law and make Hijab mandatory right? You lot are hypocrites lmao

How am I a hypocrite

 

[The Inquisitive]

Allah is the only law giver, humans governing with their made up laws is associating partners with Allah..

Secularism violates Tawheed Ruboobiyah so its shirk.

But sheikhs and theocratic leaders making laws are ok right? Gotcha.

 

[The Inquisitive]

How am I a hypocrite

Hilarious you can't see that yourself, I'm gonna assume you're retarded as well.

 

[المهندس]

But sheikhs and theocratic leaders making laws are ok right? Gotcha.

What laws do sheikhs make ?

Sharia which is the diin in its entirety was sent down by Allah to the nabi AS everything must be referred to the root judgement which is quran and sunnah

 

[The Inquisitive]

What laws do sheikhs make ?

Sharia which is the diin in its entirety was sent down by Allah to the nabi AS everything must be referred to the root judgement which is quran and sunnah

Fatwas? And don't pretend Islam doesn't have many schools of thought who disagree on almost everything.

 

[Villainess]

Saudia Arabia is a monarchy and Somalia is democratic republic (not a theocracy) and no they don't implement Sharia law totally, there's no Islamic state which implements Sharia law totally except ISIS and other khawarij groups so good luck with that takfir.

You’re 19. I feel like you associate Sharia with “killing” and “beheading” when in reality it’s nothing of the sort. It’s fair and equal and provides charity for the poor and equality for the oppressed. It’s literally from Allah swt. To deny it is to deny Allah’s power. It’s not human made. The term Sharia literally means “law”. “law”, every country has their own Sharia.

By the way: Shirk can be anything that you don’t think it is. Shirk is not just saying ‘two gods”. It can range from anything to everything. Brush up on your islamic studies brother.

 

[Lord]

Just curious, what about those who live in a secular country and when are you guys leaving?

 

[Ismail99]

Fatwas? And don't pretend Islam doesn't have many schools of thought who disagree on almost everything.

Fatwas are derived from Qur'an and Sunnah

 

[Villainess]

Just curious, what about those who live in a secular country and when are you guys leaving?

inshallah one day

 

[Lord]

Shirk is associating Allah with other dieties, and secularism is the separation of religion and state. Simple.

This is the kind excuse ISIS, alshabab and taliban use to justify all the harm they have caused. Dangerous path wallahi.

 

[The Inquisitive]

Fatwas are derived from Qur'an and Sunnah

Why? Because Qur'an and Sunnah are outdated we need sheikhs to give us fatwas? Well then we can base our constitution on Islam whilst keeping up with the ever evolving world and maintain secularism.

 

[المهندس]

Fatwas? And don't pretend Islam doesn't have many schools of thought who disagree on almost everything.

Fatwa is verdict and the evidence sheikhs use always refer back to the quran and sunnah.

Schools of thought such has hanbali, shaafi, haanfi and maliki differ on minor issues such as niqab or sitting down while eating

None of them differ on major issues concerning shirk which there is a consensus amongst all of them.

 

[Invader]

Just curious, what about those who live in a secular country and when are you guys leaving?

I live in England and it’s state religion is Protestantism. I can’t say the same for you though

 

[Ismail99]

Why? Because Qur'an and Sunnah are outdated we need sheikhs to give us fatwas? Well then we can base our constitution on Islam whilst keeping up with the ever evolving world and maintain secularism.

haddaa gaal tahay iska sheeg

 

[Villainess]

Why? Because Qur'an and Sunnah are outdated we need sheikhs to give us fatwas? Well then we can base our constitution on Islam whilst keeping up with the ever evolving world and maintain secularism.

Ok ok. We’re done here. No one give this guy attention