The One Who Believes In Secularism Is A Kafir - Shaykh Salih Al-Fawzan

[The Inquisitive]

Don't understand why you think it's debatable when the religion clearly says it's forbidden

What's forbidden?

 

[The Inquisitive]

Why did you avoid the whole topic and you keep changing the convo?

Not changing the convo, just exposing your ISIS takfiri shit, and you can't answer that question despite you insisting secularism makes people kuffar, weird.

 

[The Inquisitive]

It looks like they overwhelmingly do

I'm aware. So only 12% of Turkey's want Sharia law, so ig if Turkey bans Hijab it's not oppression as you said earlier.

 

[Anubis]

I thought it's better if we let people decide how they want to government themselves or does that apply only when a secular government bans Hijab not when a theocratic government makes Hijab mandatory?

That's the point. Your'e enforcing a foreign system upon people.

Stop using "The peoples will" when it suits you. When you say let the people choose how they want to be governed what you mean is lets see what the majority wants and the majority are supporters. When the hijab is mandatory it's "look at those poor women being oppressed". But when these "oppressed females" protest it's "look at those backward savages living in the dark ages.

 

[Invader]

Secularism doesn't prevent haram things to occur.

Sharia prevents it. One example is Zina and with it the spread of STDs.

Just saying before Western civilization existed there was no such things as STDs pandemics, let alone "Super Gonorrhea" Drug-resistant super STDs are a result of the sexual promiscuity promoted by secularism.

 

[Invader]

I'm aware. So only 12% of Turkey's want Sharia law, so ig if Turkey bans Hijab it's not oppression as you said earlier.

They say otherwise.

 

[Invader]

Mawdudi on how Secularism encourages selfish individualism as well as conflict(s) between individuals but also nations. Source : Tarik Jan, "Mawdudi’s Critique of the Secular Mind"

 

[The Inquisitive]

That's the point. Your'e enforcing a foreign system upon people.

Stop using "The peoples will" when it suits you. When you say let the people choose how they want to be governed what you mean is lets see what the majority wants and the majority are supporters. When the hijab is mandatory it's "look at those poor women being oppressed". But when these "oppressed females" protest it's "look at those backward savages living in the dark ages.

No. Your likes also impose Sharia law on people and oppose democracy etc, don't pretend you're emancipationist freedom fighter when you literally impose your interpretation of Islam on people.

 

[Anubis]

I'm aware. So only 12% of Turkey's want Sharia law, so ig if Turkey bans Hijab it's not oppression as you said earlier.

What a hypocrite. pedalling freedom while saying hijab should be banned. Would denying females the right to wear a hijab not be a oppression. You could've simply made the hijab a choice and anyone who wants to wear it can.

 

[reer]

It looks like they overwhelmingly do

are those people real? ban smoking in some of those countries the presidents life will be in danger.

 

[reer]

What a hypocrite. pedalling freedom while saying hijab should be banned. Would denying females the right to wear a hijab not be a oppression. You could've simply made the hijab a choice and anyone who wants to wear it can.

secularism one size fits all is dysfunctional.

 

[Villainess]

Not changing the convo, just exposing your ISIS takfiri shit, and you can't answer that question despite you insisting secularism makes people kuffar, weird.

We already went over this. ISIS has nothing to do with this and takfiri? LOL in the quran Allah swt already takfiried you, not me.

Sit it out this time. 6 people already refuted your weak banter.

 

[Invader]

are those people real? ban smoking in some of those countries the presidents life will be in danger.

Neoliberalism & secularism are the same thing

If he doesn't want all that stuff why doesn't be rule by Sharia?

That's because he's just lying, things like secularism cause alcoholism/drug addiction.

And Assad wants secularism.

 

[Anubis]

No. Your likes also impose Sharia law on people and oppose democracy etc, don't pretend you're emancipationist freedom fighter when you literally impose your interpretation of Islam on people.

Again talking about stuff i never said and you just proved my point.

 

[The Inquisitive]

They say otherwise.

Oops seems they're only 12% of the country, thus have no right to dictate what the other 88% should wear

 

[Invader]

Oops seems they're only 12% of the country, thus have no right to dictate what the other 88% should wear

bro you're talking about the hijab ban? No-one wants to ban it except the extreme kemalists.

 

[The Inquisitive]

What a hypocrite. pedalling freedom while saying hijab should be banned. Would denying females the right to wear a hijab not be a oppression. You could've simply made the hijab a choice and anyone who wants to wear it can.

Says someone who supports Sharia law and doesn't consider 99% of Muslims worldwide to be Muslim lol.

 

[The Inquisitive]

bro you're talking about the hijab ban? No-one wants to ban it except the extreme kemalists.

No one wants it except islamists and wahabbis so shush

 

[Invader]

Says someone who supports Sharia law and doesn't consider 99% of Muslims worldwide to be Muslim lol.

People who support secularism not people who live under it there's a big difference.

Stop projecting the Red Herring fallacy

 

[Invader]

No one wants it except islamists and wahabbis so shush

average day Turks want to have the right to wear the hijab.