The Seemingly Never-Ending Debate

[Lum]

Saudi Arabia isn't one. It's literally an absolute monarchy. And the only reason it even exists is because Ibn Saud made an agreement with the British for 9000 pounds to annex the Najd since they wanted to split up the Ummah.

If Saudi ain’t a muslims muslil country, then what make a muslim country?
Are you making takfir?

 

[Mehdi Hassan]

If Saudi ain’t a muslims muslil country, then what make a muslil country?
Are you making takfir?

It's a monarchy dude. Anyone can see that.

 

[Lum]

Allahu musta'an

 

[Lum]

It's a monarchy dude. Anyone can see that.

So? It’s in the authority off the Muslims.. And its recorded in an authentic hadith that Mekkah will remain a muslim country. So who do we listen to you or this hadith?

 

[Mehdi Hassan]

So? It’s in the authority off the Muslims.. And its recorded in an authentic hadith that Mekkah will remain a muslim country. So who do we listen to you or this hadith?

Makkah isn't a country though, it's a city. And Saudi Arabia is a distinct entity smdh.

 

[Lum]

Makkah isn't a country though, it's a city. And Saudi Arabia is a distinct entity smdh.

What? Mekkah is in Saudi.

 

[Mehdi Hassan]

What? Mekkah is in Saudi.

It's still a distinct entity created in modern times, that's what I meant. And it isn't a country.

 

[Lum]

It's still a distinct entity created in modern times, that's what I meant. And it isn't a country.

Akhi, Mekkah is in Saudi.

 

[Mehdi Hassan]

Akhi, Mekkah is in Saudi.

Yes I'm aware.

 

[Mehdi Hassan]

Saudi Arabia itself is a modern creation, a successor state to the puppet state of the British. Allah doesn't recognize it one bit. It is a Muslim-majority country but to say it is Islamic or Muslim itself is just plain false. You misunderstood. The hadith wasn't referring to Saudi Arabia, you misinterpreted it - it meant Arabia. Saudi didn't exist back then so how could it mean that? It didn't. I'm right and so is the hadith. It isn't a matter of belief, both are correct.

 

[Lum]

Saudi Arabia itself is a modern creation, a successor state to the puppet state of the British. Allah doesn't recognize it one bit. It is a Muslim-majority country but to say it is Islamic or Muslim itself is just plain false. You misunderstood. The hadith wasn't referring to Saudi Arabia, you misinterpreted it - it meant Arabia. Saudi didn't exist back then so how could it mean that? It didn't. I'm right and so is the hadith. It isn't a matter of belief, both are correct.

Seems like you misunderstood the hadith