The Somali Air Force is back!

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There should be women and it should be clan diverse. Other minorities as well.

 

[Starscream]

link to this?

The closest I could find
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/afric...ot-steal-somali-assets-20149793914891856.html

Any links on this? I though all the war planes and ships were destroyed

Is a he said she said I personally know this story since I was little but the link above
Points out ships existing

Foreign countries and financial institutions have frozen Somalia's overseas assets following the implosion of that country's central government in 1991, but feverish efforts to recover such assets - including cash, gold and ships - have restarted after the election of President Mohamud in 2012.

Here is another article
http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/africa/3126394-1657252-format-xhtml-4iuo01z/index.html

She said the Somalia Government would demand the return of money held by the Swiss authorities as well as ships and airplanes in Germany, Italy and Yemen.

They were still told no

 

[SomaliWadaniSoldier]

Waraabe reaction

 

[waranlee]

The first Somali Air Force cadet in 26 years, has taken to the skies in Turkey!

http://www.walaalaha.net/somali-new...ya-ee-turkigu-tababarray-oo-guul-weyn-gaaray/

I love Somali success as much as the next guy, but I won't bullshit myself just because it makes me feel better. Call a spade a spade and stop fooling yourselves.

The first picture of the Pilot on the runway clearly has a Photoshoped Somali flag on his left arm, it's so bad that the blue paint even flows over the yellow barrier. The rest of the pictures on the article you posted as a source only has old pictures of Somalis training and wrongfully includes one that's a ground trooper giving a speech after graduating and plays him of as a pilot.
So I don't know what you mean by "The Somali air force is back"

I'm not saying the report is wrong, maybe it's true; but those pictures don't prove anything new happened.

 

[Bahal]

Been practicing on battlefield for this

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

Almost all SNA or airforce members trained by Turkey, US or UK are Hawiye. There is almost no one from Puntland, Jubaland or SouthWest being trained outside the country or for the special corps inside the country.

This is exactly why the arm embargo should never be lifted. Any airplanes donated by foreign countries will in essence be creating a Hawiye airforce, sounds funny but it is true. This is also why the so called parliamentary committee on defense is opposed to regional proportionality in recruitment of the armed forces. The current SNA is essentially nationalized Hawiye militia. Centralization of the security apparatus and the lifting of the embargo will mean the deposition of national authority in a single clan, allowing it to try and subdue the others eventually. The Hawiye may become the Mbundu of Somalia, controlling the capital and having international recognition while waging a civil war against the rival ethnic group with foreign aid in the form of Migs and APCs. You can sort of see where all of this is heading slowly. What is actually surprising is how long it took the Hawiye to realize what having the capital city means in terms of gaining a military advantage.

https://www.stratfor.com/article/angolas-geography

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

Almost all SNA or airforce members trained by Turkey, US or UK are Hawiye. There is almost no one from Puntland, Jubaland or SouthWest being trained outside the country or for the special corps inside the country.

This is exactly why the arm embargo should never be lifted. Any airplanes donated by foreign countries will in essence be creating a Hawiye airforce, sounds funny but it is true. This is also why the so called parliamentary committee on defense is opposed to regional proportionality in recruitment of the armed forces. The current SNA is essentially nationalized Hawiye militia. Centralization of the security apparatus and the lifting of the embargo will mean the deposition of national authority in a single clan, allowing it to try and subdue the others eventually. The Hawiye may become the Mbundu of Somalia, controlling the capital and having international recognition while waging a civil war against the rival ethnic group with foreign aid in the form of Migs and APCs. You can sort of see where all of this is heading slowly. What is actually surprising is how long it took the Hawiye to realize what having the capital city means in terms of gaining a military advantage.

https://www.stratfor.com/article/angolas-geography

Warya why you gotta make everything about qabiil?

 

[DrippinglyWet]

Almost all SNA or airforce members trained by Turkey, US or UK are Hawiye. There is almost no one from Puntland, Jubaland or SouthWest being trained outside the country or for the special corps inside the country.

This is exactly why the arm embargo should never be lifted. Any airplanes donated by foreign countries will in essence be creating a Hawiye airforce, sounds funny but it is true. This is also why the so called parliamentary committee on defense is opposed to regional proportionality in recruitment of the armed forces. The current SNA is essentially nationalized Hawiye militia. Centralization of the security apparatus and the lifting of the embargo will mean the deposition of national authority in a single clan, allowing it to try and subdue the others eventually. The Hawiye may become the Mbundu of Somalia, controlling the capital and having international recognition while waging a civil war against the rival ethnic group with foreign aid in the form of Migs and APCs. You can sort of see where all of this is heading slowly. What is actually surprising is how long it took the Hawiye to realize what having the capital city means in terms of gaining a military advantage.

https://www.stratfor.com/article/angolas-geography

MX, Ogaden RX , Beesha shanaad etc .are all part of the millitary, PL refuses recruitment of troops on its grounds ofcourse with those policies in place you wont be part of the military as its impossible.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Warya why you gotta make everything about qabiil?

Maybe cause we have a government based on 4.5

 

[SomaliWadaniSoldier]

Almost all SNA or airforce members trained by Turkey, US or UK are Hawiye. There is almost no one from Puntland, Jubaland or SouthWest being trained outside the country or for the special corps inside the country.

This is exactly why the arm embargo should never be lifted. Any airplanes donated by foreign countries will in essence be creating a Hawiye airforce, sounds funny but it is true. This is also why the so called parliamentary committee on defense is opposed to regional proportionality in recruitment of the armed forces. The current SNA is essentially nationalized Hawiye militia. Centralization of the security apparatus and the lifting of the embargo will mean the deposition of national authority in a single clan, allowing it to try and subdue the others eventually. The Hawiye may become the Mbundu of Somalia, controlling the capital and having international recognition while waging a civil war against the rival ethnic group with foreign aid in the form of Migs and APCs. You can sort of see where all of this is heading slowly. What is actually surprising is how long it took the Hawiye to realize what having the capital city means in terms of gaining a military advantage.

https://www.stratfor.com/article/angolas-geography

Haddaad rag tahay kaalay qabso caasimada. Do that without Xabashi Tanks.

 

[Jjero]

 

[Yonis]

Warya why you gotta make everything about qabiil?

He has a point though

 

[McLovin]

It is only fair that Hawiye get a bulk of the Military training/hardware since they bare the brunt of Al Kebaab most. Long live muufo industrial complex

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

He has a point though

Walaal we need to open our minds & move on from qabiil. The last thing we as a people need to worry about is qabiil when we have bantus colonising us & Habeshas looking to annex us.

 

[Yonis]

Walaal we need to open our minds & move on from qabiil. The last thing we as a people need to worry about is qabiil when we have bantus colonising us & Habeshas looking to annex us.

I appreciate your sincere intent and you might have moved on from Qabil but majority of Hawiyes haven't especially with the political situation in Mogadishu right now. @Thegoodshepherd's comment was actually very pragmatic since we know what happened in the past when absolute power falls in the hands of a few. The Arms embargo must never lift until Hawiye and Darood can sit together and reconcile their differences and not only their leaders but the people.

 

[Boqor Geeljire252]

Almost all SNA or airforce members trained by Turkey, US or UK are Hawiye. There is almost no one from Puntland, Jubaland or SouthWest being trained outside the country or for the special corps inside the country.

SNA 60th Division (Baidoa,Southwest State) complete training.

SNA 43rd Division commandos (Kismaayo, Somalia) complete special forces training.

Ciidamadan ayaa ka kooban qaybta kumaandooska iyo Ciidamada Lugta waxaana ay mudo ku tababaranayeen Magaalada Kismaayo.

http://www.bulshoweyn.com/2017/04/3...a-oo-tababar-loogu-soo-xiray-kismaayo-sawiro/

SNA central command sends huge arsenal of arms to SNA 54th Division in Puntland

http://puntlandnews.net/2017/04/05/...nad-milatari-usoo-dhiibtay-dowladda-puntland/

Plans to recruit & train 18,000 strong SNA force consisting of 3,000 troops from each federal state.

Shirka Madaxda Qaranka iyo Madaxweynayaasha Dowlad Goboleedyada ayaa waxaa leysku raacay in la dhiso 18,000 askari oo ka imaan doona kuna ekaan doona xuduudaha isla maamulada ay ka imaanayaan. Kuwaas oo loo qaybsanayo sida soo socota:

Puntland 3,000, Galmudug 3,000, Hirshabelle 3,000, Banaadir 3,000, Koonfur Galbeed 3,000 iyo Jubaland 3,000.

http://muqdishotv.net/?p=11492

This is exactly why the arm embargo should never be lifted. Any airplanes donated by foreign countries will in essence be creating a Hawiye airforce, sounds funny but it is true. This is also why the so called parliamentary committee on defense is opposed to regional proportionality in recruitment of the armed forces. The current SNA is essentially nationalized Hawiye militia. Centralization of the security apparatus and the lifting of the embargo will mean the deposition of national authority in a single clan, allowing it to try and subdue the others eventually. The Hawiye may become the Mbundu of Somalia, controlling the capital and having international recognition while waging a civil war against the rival ethnic group with foreign aid in the form of Migs and APCs. You can sort of see where all of this is heading slowly. What is actually surprising is how long it took the Hawiye to realize what having the capital city means in terms of gaining a military advantage.

https://www.stratfor.com/article/angolas-geography

Completely false, the current Abaanduule for the SNA is Gen Abdullahi Ali Caanood (Marehan), in HSM's government the Commander was Gen Diini(Marehan), before him the Chief of Defence was Maj. Gen. Mohamed Adan Ahmed (Harti), before him Gen Dahir Adan Elmi (Marehan) and before him Gen Dhagabadan[AUN] (Dir).
Every clan is represented in the Somali National Army and it is present in the majority of Somalia, to try to incorrectly label it as a "Hawiye militia" shows your lack of knowledge about the nation's armed forces.

 

[random12345]

Almost all SNA or airforce members trained by Turkey, US or UK are Hawiye. There is almost no one from Puntland, Jubaland or SouthWest being trained outside the country or for the special corps inside the country.

This is exactly why the arm embargo should never be lifted. Any airplanes donated by foreign countries will in essence be creating a Hawiye airforce, sounds funny but it is true. This is also why the so called parliamentary committee on defense is opposed to regional proportionality in recruitment of the armed forces. The current SNA is essentially nationalized Hawiye militia. Centralization of the security apparatus and the lifting of the embargo will mean the deposition of national authority in a single clan, allowing it to try and subdue the others eventually. The Hawiye may become the Mbundu of Somalia, controlling the capital and having international recognition while waging a civil war against the rival ethnic group with foreign aid in the form of Migs and APCs. You can sort of see where all of this is heading slowly. What is actually surprising is how long it took the Hawiye to realize what having the capital city means in terms of gaining a military advantage.

https://www.stratfor.com/article/angolas-geography

 

[random12345]

I appreciate your sincere intent and you might have moved on from Qabil but majority of Hawiyes haven't especially with the political situation in Mogadishu right now. @Thegoodshepherd's comment was actually very pragmatic since we know what happened in the past when absolute power falls in the hands of a few. The Arms embargo must never lift until Hawiye and Darood can sit together and reconcile their differences and not only their leaders but the people.

Your lies knows no bounds. Get me another qabiil celebrating a President who is not of theirs like this. Even the army celebrated this man. Your agenda is clear now, you're against a functioning and strong Somalia unless it's lead by mj

 

[DrippinglyWet]

MJ trying to get in between Marehan Ogaden RX, Dir and Hawiye nationalistic brotherhood
Idealogue > Clan

 

[Yonis]

Your lies knows no bounds. Get me another qabiil celebrating a President who is not of theirs like this. Even the army celebrated this man. Your agenda is clear now, you're against a functioning and strong Somalia unless it's lead by mj

I support Farmaajo's admin contrary to many MJs i know. You cannot find many more wadanis than me, but i am also a realist.