The world must apologize to the white men of South Africa. He was right all along. The world now has to deal with these savages

[Periplus]

What country specifically is a Cuban colony?

The idea that Cuba would want to establish a colony and practice British-style colonialism is not in keeping with the reality of how Cuban policy works.

The way Cuba works... and it's not even necessarily about Cuban interests... they are an ideological state.... the way they work is they prop up their buddies.... Mengistu in Ethiopia... Chávez in Venezuela... FMLN in El Salvador... Sandininstas in Nicaragua...

it's not that they establish puppet governments or colonies... it is that they help their buddies but their buddies are necessarily those who support a Communist agenda... and just because someone doesn't directly and openly identify as a Communist doesn't mean that they're not involved with a Communist agenda...

Mandela did not "pull one over" on Fidel... Fidel was a genius... he was not going to help someone like Mandela unless he was going to be advancing his aims... and Fidel himself was a servant of an international Communist agenda

I never said Cuba had colonies?

Also, Mandela established a capitalist system in Sth Africa in 1994, so your point is moot.

 

[Omar del Sur]

I never said Cuba had colonies?

Also, Mandela established a capitalist system in Sth Africa in 1994, so your point is moot.

No. Just saying you're not a Communist is not proof that you are not a Communist or that you don't serve a Communist agenda. Not every Communist is going to come right out and admit they're a Communist. That's not how they operate. Even Fidel used to say he wasn't a Communist.

I never said Cuba had colonies?

Imagine broke Castro trying to force Mandela, the president of a much richer and stronger country.

The Castro regime suffered massively after the fall of the USSR and I do not think they were in any position to dictate policy to a stronger country when their own nation was in ruins in 1994.

my point was that this idea that Fidel would "dictate policy" is a strawman... that is not how their foreign policy works

 

[Periplus]

No. Just saying you're not a Communist is not proof that you are not a Communist or that you don't serve a Communist agenda. Not every Communist is going to come right out and admit they're a Communist. That's not how they operate. Even Fidel used to say he wasn't a Communist.

my point was that this idea that Fidel would "dictate policy" is a strawman... that is not how their foreign policy works

Mandela did not implement any communist ideology in Sth Africa when elected. Find me proof.

As for Fidel, you yourself claimed that his objectives were ideological in relation to Africa? Would you not implement said ideologies through policy?

Bismillah.

 

[Omar del Sur]

Mandela did not implement any communist ideology in Sth Africa when elected. Find me proof.

As for Fidel, you yourself claimed that his objectives were ideological in relation to Africa? Would you not implement said ideologies through policy?

Bismillah.

Communism is not that simple. You don't need to overtly say "I am a Marxist-Leninist" and establish an openly Marxist-Leninist system in order to advance Communist aims.

Neither is Cuban foreign policy that simple. It isn't my fault if you don't understand the complexity of the matters. Did Chávez establish an overtly Marxist-Leninist system in Venezuela?

 

[Periplus]

Communism is not that simple. You don't need to overtly say "I am a Marxist-Leninist" and establish an openly Marxist-Leninist system in order to advance Communist aims.

Find me the communist aims he did as president of Sth Africa?

I already agree with you that he was probably a communist but as president he established a capitalist system.

 

[Omar del Sur]

Find me the communist aims he did as president of Sth Africa?

I already agree with you that he was probably a communist but as president he established a capitalist system.

Marxism is not just economics.

As for how specifically he pushed a Marxist agenda- I don't claim to know tons on Mandela specifically but I am familiar with Fidel and Cuba and I know how their foreign policy works.

 

[Omar del Sur]

the other thing is Fidel was not just a Communist... Fidel was a Freemason, as I have mentioned previously on here. it could be that Mandela was with Masonry or whatever but in any case you should not trust any famous person who is best buddies with Fidel. Fidel is shadier than a forest full of trees.

 

[Omar del Sur]

This is not to say Mandela was not a member of the Communist Party, he was. But the idea that he was plotting to implent/implemented a communist regime was propaganda to maintain Western support for the apartheid regime.

I never made any claim that Mandela was out to implement a Communist regime. But there is a clear link with Communism as you yourself admit.

 

[reer]

I completely agree.

Essentially, the government realised if they ripped the roots of the economy to end economic apartheid, they will end like Zimbabwe, however if they do nothing then its just same apartheid new government.

They gambled on doing nothing in the hopes more Blacks will be able to make it out and create generational wealth on their own.

mugabe had to make himself dictator since he was one of the few people who had the balls to seize farms from whites. britain also installed south asians to build railway and as upper class of uganda and oppressed ugandans. the asians were racist didnt even mingle with ugandans. it was also economic mini apartheid to impoverish ugandans. after independence the south asians stayed. after idi amin took power he kicked them out in the 70s and gave them 90 days to pack up.

the average ugandan and zimbabwean has better opportunities and social mobility because of those ballsy decisions. the native ugandan and zimbabwean has more access to education than native south africans. the gaajo of black south africans is horrific.

 

[Kant123]

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The guy in video doesnt look Somali, looks like a white guy or extreme light skin individual???

 

[Abdisamad]

I couldn't give a dead rats ass about these south africans as matter of fact I would support apartheid to be re-implemented.

 

[Based]

The only reason why they’re even on the map and have immigrants in the first place is because
of the white man. Waa xoolo! Smh

Without the white man, they'd still be running naked in their jungles all those roads and fancy buildings/malls/restaurants that they're looting are all European built. Are there even any successful majority black countries that weren't built by whites?

 

[codewebsduh]

75% unemployment for under 25s lmao.

Somalia does better then that lol.

 

[Periplus]

Without the white man, they'd still be running naked in their jungles all those roads and fancy buildings/malls/restaurants that they're looting are all European built. Are there even any successful majority black countries that weren't built by whites?

That is also wrong.

 

[Apollo]

For necessary context about South Africa, I would suggest these readings.

Bantu Education act, the Pass laws, Group Area acts and the economic apartheid experienced today due to a combination of the legacy of these acts.

Bro you are taking these controversial hot takes on SomaliSpot way too seriously. Most of the time people just say this shit for the triggering reactions, not because they actually believe these things.

 

[Based]

That is also wrong.

Explain to me how I am wrong

 

[Periplus]

Bro you are taking these controversial hot takes on SomaliSpot way too seriously. Most of the time people just say this shit for the triggering reactions, not because they actually believe these things.

People give these controversial takes because their identity is hidden.

However, our ethnicity is not hidden. The name of this forum is Somali Spot.

 

[Periplus]

Explain to me how I am wrong

Repost:

South Africa gained much of its economic wealth, even until to this day, from the mining boom. The cadaan basically used the Black majority as free labour for generations and divided the profit amongst themselves. When you divide money amongst a small group of people, they all get a big share.

With legislation such as the Bantu Education act, they made sure the Blacks remained uneducated and could only work in fields such as hospitality, domestic work and other unskilled subservient labour.

This basically allowed the cadaan to keep the Africans as a source of menial labour until the 1990s. South Africa would be no-where without the exploitation of Africans for generations

 

[Nasser Nyerere]

None of us here have the right to look down on other people while somalia is still a complete mess 31 years later.

There is no difference between them and you, infact there are better off as they did not go to weatern countries as refugees and they still have a home.

So lets cut that shit out