Tribal elder advises the father of Luul to forgive her killer and give him another wife.

[Angelina]

Women are not innocent, here they are defending their tribal cousin who burned his wife. Admittedly tho, the usual suspects

Yep, women aren’t innocent. Many of these disgusting misogynistic men are raised by low quality women whom you’ve posted. There is a huge element of Xaasidnimo in a lot of Somali women that is normalized in our culture and that is one of the biggest building blocks that stop us from eradicating misogyny. The same women would want their daughters to be treated well and educated whilst raising their sons to treat women like shit and encouraging their sons to be unjust to wives.

The issue we have is more than just the men and believe me, I think I hate those women that I have described more than the men. At least nefarious men act out of self interest and look at what benefits them despite being incredibly selfish, but what do these misogynistic mothers get out of it apart from just getting the satisfaction of stepping on other women whilst also crying about being mistreated by the men in their lives?!

 

[Hodan from HR]

There’s no hope in this country

It mostly makes me sad

The people back home are unfortunately, trapped in a vicious cycle where you can't pinpoint the blame to one person only. In a way, the misogynist men are merely products of their environment. One could say they themselves, are both the victims and the perpetrators.


However, those of us in the diaspora should invest our time and money wisely and not feel bad withdrawing our help if it is being used to enable unjust practices.

 

[Lostbox]

Don't know why you take advice from 3rd world man

 

[Rayaale]

It mostly makes me sad

The people back home are unfortunately, trapped in a vicious cycle where you can't pinpoint the blame to one person only. In a way, the misogynist men are merely products of their environment. One could say they themselves, are both the victims and the perpetrators.


However, those of us in the diaspora should invest our time and money wisely and not feel bad withdrawing our help if it is being used to enable unjust practices.

When that doctor who studied abroad and came back to Gaalkacyo to help his people and was gunned down purely for clan politics was the last straw for me,it’s better to just live in the diaspora and to completely switch off

 

[Aseer]

This country is cooked I cant wait for the old gen to die out hopefully the new gen will be more progressive Its crazy how blood money and other similar cultures still exist and thrive in somalia we ironically live in jahaliya times even the arabs progressed from most of the practices we do

 

[Aseer]

When that doctor who studied abroad and came back to Gaalkacyo to help his people and was gunned down purely for clan politics was the last straw for me,it’s better to just live in the diaspora and to completely switch off

There were way more other cases like this and the retards back home gun them down cause he is from so and so qabiil its like a dying old man slapping away the hand that wants to help him cause the helping hand is some other qabiil I will keep saying this somalis back home are the most low IQ, smoothbrained, Idiotic cawaans in the world the reer magaal is a bit better but still qashin but the worst of the worst ones are the bedouins who sadly make up the majority those guys are sub human xayawaans who have no brain

 

[The Oponian Guild]

The absolute cheek of this guy

 

[empressjamila]

It’s a messed up culture back home fr.

Has this come about because of the civil war? Did Somalis 50+ years ago still have such little regard for the sanctity of life? Especially a woman’s life?

Or is it because people over there are so desensitized to death, and so they don’t care if even their own daughter dies?

It’s so mind boggling. I can’t wrap my head around it

 

[Angelina]

It’s a messed up culture back home fr.

Has this come about because of the civil war? Did Somalis 50+ years ago still have such little regard for the sanctity of life? Especially a woman’s life?

Or is it because people over there are so desensitized to death, and so they don’t care if even their own daughter dies?

It’s so mind boggling. I can’t wrap my head around it

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I think the years under a gov like the early days of Aden Cadde and then Siyaad Barre probably put a halt to it, but before we were a country, our society was mostly made up of tribal wars which would often result in an exchange of women and the kidnapping of wives like livestock. Women without brothers would often have their inheritance stolen under Xeer laws which clearly go against Islamic inheritance systems and the list continues.

Whilst I do believe that Somalis had a somewhat callous approach to life which could be explained by the harsh desert environment and life as a nomad required toughness and stoic disposition, I can’t for the life of me believe that our ancestors would have accepted a woman being burnt to death by a spouse. I think that would shock them to the core even though I do believe they had a very misogynistic outlook that most societies of that past had as well.

 

[Sa_Male]

It’s a messed up culture back home fr.

Has this come about because of the civil war? Did Somalis 50+ years ago still have such little regard for the sanctity of life? Especially a woman’s life?

Or is it because people over there are so desensitized to death, and so they don’t care if even their own daughter dies?

It’s so mind boggling. I can’t wrap my head around it

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[Sa_Male]

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If we had our tradional daqan of a meritocracy that influenced parental excellence, we would be moving forward in every realm. But alas, most are either deathly obedient to something never proven to them, thereby robbed of a dream that accomplished could change the fate of our race, and others are desperately fighting the normality of this oppression without saving themselves.

 

[Rayaale]

There were way more other cases like this and the retards back home gun them down cause he is from so and so qabiil its like a dying old man slapping away the hand that wants to help him cause the helping hand is some other qabiil I will keep saying this somalis back home are the most low IQ, smoothbrained, Idiotic cawaans in the world the reer magaal is a bit better but still qashin but the worst of the worst ones are the bedouins who sadly make up the majority those guys are sub human xayawaans who have no brain

Did you see that Kenyan farmer who grows watermelons on the outskirts of Galgodob,meanwhile you have Somalis busy killing each other over there and not taking advantage of the opportunities

 

[Im_✨]

I do think that Somalis need to sit together and discuss HG behaviour at some point. At some point when you are always the 'common denominator'. It means there is a huge sickness within the leadership of this clan/organisation. I don't think there is a clan in Somalia that has the same track record when it comes to crimes. Even unarmed minority girls didn't escape their clutches, till this day, they squat in stolen houses across South Somalia. And they have forced themselves into towns and cities they never inhabited prior to the civil war. Look at the demographics, and political and clan conflicts in Marka and Barawe for god's sake. It's 2024, and they're still at it.

Even when you discuss the civil war, within Hawiye, they tend to point the finger at HG when it comes to rape and stealing houses/land.

How extremely tribal of you to say HG is the common ‘denominator’. Thats like a white person pointing at a muslim and saying ‘common denominator’ all because theres trrorist groups that some people indulge in. Within hawiye no one points the finger at hg. Also, these cases are extremely isolated and sensationalised. ESPECIALLY when it comes to hg.
Habr gidr are miskeen bro leave them alone

 

[Tenz]

Garaad, Ugaas, Suldaan. All these elders need to be deleted. There time is over.

 

[Im_✨]

The laws are a reflection of society. What do you call it when a man can r-word a girl and get away with it because his qabil will pay diya on his behalf and he can be on merry way? Say Wallahi that I’m lying? Is this a society that is benevolent to women? And what makes you think I think most societies around the world are benevolent to women?

Isnt that not halal to do though?

 

[Lahaine]

In what other country other than Somalia are clan elders allowed to have a say?

 

[Angelina]

Isnt that not halal to do though?

So it’s halal for a rapist to walk free whilst he pays nothing at any personal cost and can be on his merry way to r-word other women. Do you honestly believe that the safety of women is of little consequence in our religion? What deterrent is that for r-word?

Is that what you’re suggesting sis? Show me where in the Sharia in which r-word is dealt in this way. The punishment is death and it’s seen as mischief and corruption of the land.

 

[Im_✨]

So it’s halal for a rapist to walk free walks free whilst he pays nothing at any personal cost and can be on his merry way to r-word other women.

Is that what you’re suggesting sis?

Girl im not suggesting anything. You rewrote what I said and tried to demonise me along with it. Paying diyo is halal regardless. Its in our deen and it can be followed. To go against allahs laws is to go against him. Islamqa is free sis

 

[Angelina]

Girl im not suggesting anything. You rewrote what I said and tried to demonise me along with it. Paying diyo is halal regardless. Its in our deen and it can be followed. To go against allahs laws is to go against him. Islamqa is free sis

Where does it say that a r-word can pay diya and get away Scot free with someone else paying on their behalf? Where?

Learn the conditions of diya before lecturing me please and where did I say I’m against Diya?

 

[Im_✨]

Where does it say that a r-word can pay diya and get away Scot free with someone else paying on their behalf? Where?

Learn the conditions of diya before lecturing me please and where did I say I’m against Diya?

i didnt lecture you abaayo. Google is free have a good day x