US Median Household Income 2023
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Not true, that's the labor profile of Somalis and most of them are immigrants.
And that article and studies i linked are about Somali immigrants that first arrived moving off quickly from welfare, they now receive less welfare than the natives and showing high employment rates.
Those people came to America and worked up, they were not millennials.
emphasis on the word refugee most vietnamese people in the states despite the war are still economic and even then they still had access to education back in vietnam. I think you need to understand somalis come from the worst circumstances a human being can come from literally. War, nomad culture, no written script until 1970, severly isolated. Im hard on somalis but what i wont do is compare it to other communities without understanding why. Somalis also suffer from horrible or no parenting.
You're correct. The Somalis who arrived in the early '90s are just now seeing some of their oldest children graduate and enter the workforce. My parents immigrated here in the early '90s; I’m their oldest child and I'm just three years out of university, similar to most of my peers whose parents came during that time. Peak earning years for college graduates in America doesn't even begin until age 35 or later.Our household income is about to be 80k+ probably within the next 20 years. All the oldheads will be retired by then. The only niggas that will hold us back will be the dumb ass niggas that didn't go to college or trade school.
Another factor they failed to consider, In Minnesota, half of the Somali population is below the age of 22, so those currently working are disproportionately first-generation refugees doing unskilled jobs like Uber, truck driving, running local halal shops, daycares, etc.
This is why it's best to look into the context of the statistics your viewing. Otherwise you'll end up like the nigga above whose comparing the household incomes of first-generation refugees to those of economic immigrants, who represent the college-educated and skilled workers from their home countries.
I rembe it was thus one african dude who posted these stats to show hoe sucessful africans are and then he also used it to shit on somalis and was like why are they so poor yet so arrogant. I was low-key thinking is this nigga retarded since he posts a bunch of stats yet didn't mention anything about how selected african immigrants are.
The article and studies that i showed are from 2007 and they are talking about Somalis that arrived back in 1995.
This is an article from 2007.
Rochester, Minn. / Many Somalis getting off welfare
Abdifatah Abdinur spoke no English when his family immigrated here in 1995, but he can still remember how embarrassed he was at needing food stamps. “Somali men and women like to be independe…www.twincities.com
Another Minnesota State study:
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How can Somalis be less reliant on welfare and have greater food security than Black Americans and Hispanics but earn less than them?
What it means in reality is that Somalis have more wealth that is not accounted for.
So no it's not the kids that grew up, graduated and just started to enter the work force.
The 16-24 age group have a lower employment 2 in 5 (40%) (Based on 2018 stats) than the 25-64 age range which are mostly refugee Somalis who have an employment rate of 85%.
This is from 2014
The Somali female labor participation rate have also gone up to 75% in the more recent Minnesota government stats.
And most of what i mentioned except for IT and information services which are fewer are not really something you need more higher tier education to be employed in.
With a significant portion of them actually being employed in the home care health services and food manufacturing industry and decent percentage also being self employed.
So no it's not a bunch of Somalis employed in uber, halal, truck driving or daycare and taxis loool. Way to pigeonhole Somalis who actually have varied sector labor profile, they take any job.
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taxi drivers etc, I'm tempted to go over to the US but can'tt handle the police bs, even though the pay would 3 to 4x my income, it's not worth the risk.
Police? Just mind your business nobody will do anything to you
This is why it makes me laugh when Somali people do diaspora wars. We genuinely don’t have a single successful diaspora in the West. We don’t even have one that’s average performing.
Your just happy cause of the embarrassment that is the UK diaspora living 75% in Qaxooti Housing after 40 years
Why are you such an argumentative person?
You missed my general point and instead cherry-picked specific sentences to refute. I’m not talking about welfare statistics or labor force participation rates at all!My reply was meant to highlight that the future income potential of Somalis is extremely high, as half of our population is below college-graduate age. It was an explanation for why we're trailing behind the other high income African immigrant groups in the chart such as Kenyans or South Africans who are primarily economic migrants.
Not all jobs are created equal, a lot of the jobs you listed don't require a college degree and have lower barriers to entry. They are therefore capped in their income potential. I'm not pigeonholing Somalis, I just mentioned the few jobs I did as examples of unskilled fields that don't require higher education. Meant nothing derogatory by it even though you took it that way.
You got me.Your just happy cause of the embarrassment that is the UK diaspora living 75% in Qaxooti Housing after 40 years
LilBang
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Hating ass nigga
Minnesota is still doing better by a landslide sxb. What even goes on in the UK Somali community?
Why are you such an argumentative person?
My reply was meant to highlight that the future income potential of Somalis is extremely high, as half of our population is below college-graduate age. It was an explanation for why we're trailing behind the other high income African immigrant groups in the chart such as Kenyans or South Africans who are primarily economic migrants.
Not all jobs are created equal, a lot of the jobs you listed don't require a college degree and have lower barriers to entry. They are therefore capped in their income potential. I'm not pigeonholing Somalis, I just mentioned the few jobs I did as examples of unskilled fields that don't require higher education. Meant nothing derogatory by it even though you took it that way.
You replied to Kisame who replied to something i said. You cut in to agree with him.
He was saying that the greater portion of Somalis who work in the diverse sectors i mentioned and who do not take benefits are young millienials who graduated from school.
I am explaining that is not the case , its the immigrants/refugees that have the greater share of employment 85% and who also moved off welfare quickly when they arrived and where they now receive less.
I am not saying Somali immigrants are employed as doctors, lawyers, accountants, engineers or other educated professions in high numbers etc And i am just stressing accurate representation just because they are not employed in highly skilled professions doesn't meant most are automatically all uber drivers lmaao
But you are right though , most Somalis are young and the labor profile and income levels will change substantially in the next few years as they move into the work force and especially into more skilled higher paying jobs.
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most of us did not come here in the 90s/early 2000s. The somali population in america really boomed after 2010. I don't even remember seeing very many somalis in the early 2000s
LilBang
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Yes we did stop the cap abayo were almost touching a quarter milli when it comes to our population nowadays
Atleast 80% of Gen Z somalis in america were born here
white south africansHow is South Africa so high? Are they counting Elon?
