War in Galkayo

[Libaax-Joore]

Warsangeli didn't take part in the 1979 Majeerteen ethnic cleansing as far as I have heard. They are our bah-wadaag, ood wadaag and also had their own Sultanate. Waa gob and Saldano fac-wayn. I don't even have beef with Leelkasse, contrary to popular belief, I just have an issue with the N&N and other weirdos on here. Before they joined, I used to defend LK on here. I just take issue with been, and the way that MJs are always blamed and people are entitled.

Puntiequeen we should defend puntland border dagalkan jiicboor ka socdo Sacaad kaliyah ma ah ha wa hawiye o dhan ba ka dagaalaamayo waxa la raabo waxa weye in garacad goldogob corridor isbaaro lo digto marka reer puntland wa in ee dhulkoda iyo dadkoda difacdan

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Puntiequeen we should defend puntland border dagalkan jiicboor ka socdo Sacaad kaliyah ma ah ha wa hawiye o dhan ba ka dagaalaamayo waxa la raabo waxa weye in garacad goldogob corridor isbaaro lo digto marka reer puntland wa in ee dhulkoda iyo dadkoda difacdan

Of course we should.

But in a better manner than randomly shooting up Galkacyo. I am not the one who agrees with makes deals with mooryaans, hugging up with them, or anything else. My beef is with underhanded stupidity.

LK should go to MJ elders and sit down to discuss, like the Garaads did.

 

[Libaax-Joore]

We're blamed for everything, dont you think its time these other D5 who have been claiming landheernimo all these years put their money where their mouth is and defend their land without mj support or involving MJ at all. I have no issue with Warsan, i dont blame them for ceerigaabo being taken. They are a landheere clan with a long tariikh and have the awood to finish HY in ceerigaabo, LK should be able to do the same with HG. All im saying is iss difaaca, landheere maadan ahayn.

Ninyahow in an dhulbahante Warsangeli iyo leelkaase military alliance la sameeesano wa wax danteeno ku jirto wayo iyaga aya buffer zone ino ah marka in an dhulkoda la difacno si adiga dhulkaga biri ugu dagalaamin , Somaliland dagalkan hadha buraha cil miskad ee gobolka bari iyada fund gareeso hubeeso argagaxisadan dhulkoda lagu so tababara inten ee puntland imaan hata waxa laga heeley meelahi laga xoreeye lacagta Somaliland ba laga heeley

 

[Hilmaam]

Since you're here.

Remember when you said HG can also live in Galdogob?
Or when you said you supported the mooryaan, Nasri Warsame.

Of course, you are entitled to your opinions, I am just using it to highlight how some Leelkasse come up with the strange decisions they do, such as hugging up with HG, instead of working with MJs or even find a common strategy against the thugs with the Marehans in Saaxo.

Advise your elders to make better choices not driven by cuqdad, but pragmatism.

HG somali not some aliens. We fight then there will be peace. Somali clans bipolar peace and war

our elders do what’s best for their people we don’t owe anybody land nor need protection. We gonna duke it anytime anywhere Juxa and his gang of clowns can’t do anything with there papers. It’s war and hunting season Galkacyo not some sacred grounds. We all know bloody history of city and Ano qabil killings this fake outrage funny . I can pull up kidnappings killings all done last couple of years . Juxa and his crew trying to score political points talking about aragixiso and bullshit

 

[Abdalla]

dirty munaafiq

You are always emotional and I can tell you have zero background on the events that led to Jiicboor. Leelkasse invited Sacad to graze in Saaxoqurun, they refused Cumar Maxamuud and Wagardhac camels to graze there in the past. Sacad came to Cumar Maxamuud and asked whether they can graze in Godod, CM refused. Then they went to Leelkasse. When Leelkasse allowed Sacad, a delegation of Wagardhac and CM/RB advised them not to. Sacad passed Saaxoqurun, they’re now in Jiicboor, just few km outside of Goldogob. Leelkasse just woke and smelled the coffee. They still have time as Sacad didn’t make degmo and only uses those lands as grazing land.

Here’s a Sacad man thanking Leelkasse for allowing them to settle in their degmos while Reer Mahads refused them access to Godod. In the future don’t be emotional and act like you can fix the dumb decisions made by others.

 

[TheLand]

Puntland needs to leverage the 3G road against LLK! They don’t play ball, the road doesn’t go through Goldogob! I think LLK intention is to declare ‘sheeko-xariirland’ once the road is built by PL! PL needs to stop being soft!

 

[Libaax-Joore]

HG somali not some aliens. We fight then there will be peace. Somali clans bipolar peace and war

our elders do what’s best for their people we don’t owe anybody land nor need protection. We gonna duke it anytime anywhere Juxa and his gang of clowns can’t do anything with there papers. It’s war and hunting season Galkacyo not some sacred grounds. We all know bloody history of city and Ano qabil killings this fake outrage funny . I can pull up kidnappings killings all done last couple of years . Juxa and his crew trying to score political points talking about aragixiso and bullshit

Leelkase are part of puntland they have 3 mp in puntland parliament and also have the finance minister under current administration we are somali but today somalis live around tribal border if habargidir want to land grab another tribe darbi darood land who are part of puntland they should face stiff resisting

 

[Hilmaam]

Leelkase are part of puntland they have 3 mp in puntland parliament and also have the finance minister under current administration we are somali but today somalis live around tribal border if habargidir want to land grab another tribe darbi darood land who are part of puntland they should face stiff resisting

Right now it’s pretty even nobody making huge advance. I don’t blame puntland for not getting involved. this is crazy qabil skirmish probably will be no winner.

But there is politicians on puntland side that is trying to help sacad and taking advantage of situation. 24/7 spreading propoganda and main guy Juxa and has ben doing it for months . Anywhere there is free lunch and tea being served there is Juxa with mic yapping away about Lk. He has bone to pick with us and adding fuel to fire.

 

[Libaax-Joore]

Right now it’s pretty even nobody making huge advance. I don’t blame puntland for not getting involved. this is crazy qabil skirmish probably will be no winner.

But there is politicians on puntland side that is trying to help sacad and taking advantage of situation. 24/7 spreading propoganda and main guy Juxa and has ben doing it for months . Anywhere there is free lunch and tea being served there is Juxa with mic yapping away about Lk. He has bone to pick with us and adding fuel to fire.

Juxa is the most hardcore puntland minister, his currently puntland interior minister what did he say that upset you mudaane

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

You are always emotional and I can tell you have zero background on the events that led to Jiicboor. Leelkasse invited Sacad to graze in Saaxoqurun, they refused Cumar Maxamuud and Wagardhac camels to graze there in the past. Sacad came to Cumar Maxamuud and asked whether they can graze in Godod, CM refused. Then they went to Leelkasse. When Leelkasse allowed Sacad, a delegation of Wagardhac and CM/RB advised them not to. Sacad passed Saaxoqurun, they’re now in Jiicboor, just few km outside of Goldogob. Leelkasse just woke and smelled the coffee. They still have time as Sacad didn’t make degmo and only uses those lands as grazing land.

Here’s a Sacad man thanking Leelkasse for allowing them to settle in their degmos while Reer Mahads refused them access to Godod. In the future don’t be emotional and act like you can fix the dumb decisions made by others.

I am well aware of the stupidity of the Leelkase allowing Sacad to graze north of Saaxqurun.
I just think that we should not see that as a reason to allow encroachment. Puntland should make it clear to Leelkase that they will not have the ability to independently make security agreements with Galmudug.

Nin haduu waalan yahay walaalkii ayaa u miyir qaba

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

HG somali not some aliens. We fight then there will be peace. Somali clans bipolar peace and war

our elders do what’s best for their people we don’t owe anybody land nor need protection. We gonna duke it anytime anywhere Juxa and his gang of clowns can’t do anything with there papers. It’s war and hunting season Galkacyo not some sacred grounds. We all know bloody history of city and Ano qabil killings this fake outrage funny . I can pull up kidnappings killings all done last couple of years . Juxa and his crew trying to score political points talking about aragixiso and bullshit

Your elders don't do what's best. If they did, they would know the number 1 rule in Somalia; never allow HG to graze on your land.

 

[Hilmaam]

Juxa is the most hardcore puntland minister, his currently puntland interior minister what did he say that upset you mudaane

He is hardcore SSDF and MJ he don’t like LK. Two days before Galkacyo shooting 20 people tied outside city fighting. No peep from . 1 day before city shooting Sacad armed militia kidnapped 2 people in city Galkacyo. Juxa never says peep about this. Put when shooting happened inside Galkacyo he ran from Bosaso To city . Started blaming everything on LK and saying we will be brought to justice and making threats. Same thing when that girl got captured after she got ditched by hg miktia in jiicboor who brought her into fight. he immediately grabs mic and spreads lies saying it was all LLk fault and calling it gunimo. guys is big time hater. He only got eyes for lk

 

[TheLand]

Juxa is the most hardcore puntland minister, his currently puntland interior minister what did he say that upset you mudaane

Apparently they have a puntland and federal mp in nugaal I bet that’s why @Hilmaam hates Juxa, it’s nugaal affairs but he doesn’t want to admit it waryaa @Hilmaam got your black ass waan ku qabtay you might be able to fool others but you ain’t fooling me

 

[Abdalla]

I am well aware of the stupidity of the Leelkase allowing Sacad to graze north of Saaxqurun.
I just think that we should not see that as a reason to allow encroachment. Puntland should make it clear to Leelkase that they will not have the ability to independently make security agreements with Galmudug.

Nin haduu waalan yahay walaalkii ayaa u miyir qaba

You can’t have more love for someone’s land than his love. They were also offered help to forcefully push them back from Saaxoqurun but they refused that as well. That was few years ago. Now they are nearing Galdogob. Leelkasse is more than capable of pushing them back as they have done that in the past. But to bring war to Gaalkacyo is just a dumb move.

 

[Hilmaam]

Your elders don't do what's best. If they did, they would know the number 1 rule in Somalia; never allow HG to graze on your land.

Nobody gives land away for free I don’t believe that. It’s the only resource in country. If HG took land it was through gun and LK saying it’s not worth price in blood right now. People do graze in each other lands during droughts but it’s different than setting up permanent fixtures like housing and wells. When that happens you go to war or your land got taken . I say it’s cope when clans say we gave land away. they avoiding facing their L. Right now LK said no more after Sacad tried encroaching further near jiicboor. We gonna see how much they willing to bleed for land that’s not theirs

 

[Hilmaam]

Apparently they have a puntland and federal mp in nugaal I bet that’s why @Hilmaam hates Juxa, it’s nugaal affairs but he doesn’t want to admit it waryaa @Hilmaam got your black ass waan ku qabtay you might be able to fool others but you ain’t fooling me

Lol No it’s not I will dig up videos when I get time. It was on radio Galkacyo Facebook . They post alot so need to sift through it. They always posting drama and clan beefs

 

[Abdalla]

Nobody gives land away for free I don’t believe that. It’s the only resource in country. If HG took land it was through gun and LK saying it’s not worth price in blood right now. People do graze in lands during droughts but it’s different than setting up permanent fixtures like housing and wells. When that happens you to war or your land got taken . I say it’s cope when people say we have land away

HG didn’t fire 1 bullet. They weren’t given the land. They were allowed to graze and the deal was that they should return to their lands after the drought. But HG are not people that you show mercy and humanity. They overstayed their welcome and refused to leave. Leelkasse than didn’t take action. Then instead of being grateful, HG then moved north and started crazing in the district of Galdogob.

We refused them, and you certainly are not a better person or a better Muslim than us Majeerteens.

 

[TheLand]

This entire thread has convinced me firmly of two things. 1) The dire need to disarm all Somalis and 2) The need to move away from pastoralism. All of this is about/originates from squabbles over grazing lands as do most of these wars. When will the madness end?

 

[Hilmaam]

HG didn’t fire 1 bullet. They weren’t given the land. They were allowed to graze and the deal was that they should return to their lands after the drought. But HG are not people that you show mercy and humanity. They overstayed their welcome and refused to leave. Leelkasse than didn’t take action. Then instead of being grateful, HG then moved north and started crazing in the district of Galdogob.

We refused them, and you certainly are not a better person or a better Muslim than us Majeerteens.

Maybe that happened but that’s still not giving away land. that land was taken against other side will. For whatever reason LK didn’t want to fight over it back then and didn’t think it was worth it. Either because of fire power or something else. Now we fighting and got plenty of arms and fighting for our land yet getting labeled al shabab it’s crazy world and disturbers of peace

 

[Abdalla]

Maybe that happened but that’s still not giving away land. that land was taken against other side will. For whatever reason LK didn’t want to fight over it back then and didn’t think it was worth it. Either because of fire power or something else. Now we fighting and got plenty of arms and fighting for our land yet getting labeled al shabab it’s crazy world and disturbers of peace

Nobody called you AS when you were fighting in Jiicboor for the past year. However, shooting at innocent people having tea in Gaalkacyo while PL is at war against ISIS, is super suspicious tbh. I don’t agree with Juxa’s wordings but you have to understand where he’s coming from.