War in Sool

[Garaad Awal]

100% Jibril Abokar probably from Gabiley, they intermarry with Reer Nuur quite a bit and Mahad 'Ase in that town, he probably knows his mom Abtirsi by heart for these sorts of incidents.

Only Reer Xareed JB mix with your folks. The rest of us don’t know you nor have any blood.

The last clan to be speaking about JB is the one that annually commemorates Dilla as if it was Ashura in Karbala

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

You think SL will exist without any force?

Why do you think Harti protested in late 2022? SL was actually succeeding with its' lobbying efforts and they started to get scared that SL would be recognized in it's borders.

You think that a free and autonomous GX state won't be fighting everyday with PL and and SSc combined and maybe even losing Ceerigabo? One day you don't do what HSM wants and he cuts off funding and sends SSc your way or maybe Maakhir or Puntland. Eitheway someone is calling the shots. That's life.

If you want to run SL you actually have to at least believe in it.

Here are a list of a reasons as to why Somaliland has not & will not gain recognition:

1. SNM represented only one community in northern Somalia, unlike the pan-ethnic SPLA and EPLF.
2. The absence of unanimous agreement on secession among the three main communities of northern Somalia. In Eritrea, 99.8% of Muslims and Christians voted in favor of secession. In South Sudan, 97.8% of Dinka and Nuer voted in favor of secession. These communities disagreed on a lot but they were fully united behind secession.
3. Isaaq are not an overwhelming majority, like in Kosovo where Albanians are 92% of the population. Isaaq are ~55% of the population and their share is declining due to lower relative fertility vis a vis Harti. 55% of the population is not large enough to police the other communities of northern Somalia, even if recognition were granted.
4. The only time all democratically elected representatives of all of the clans of former British Somaliland agreed on anything was June 27 1960, when they voted to join Italian Somaliland “forever”. No one elected the men who declared secession in Burco in 1991, and the 2001 referendum had no legal basis.
5. Somalia’s central government has adopted federalism for its future structure. This means that there is now ample political space for Somaliland to rejoin and maintain the institutions it has developed over the past 30 years.

I can go on and on with maybe another 10 reasons, but you catch my drift. Recognition? It is not going to happen.

 

[Garaad Awal]

GX split personality and self hate is a real thing lol. Look at your Waddani 2024 and literally laughing with the enemy who would happily see you destroyed.

When they come for Ceerigabo you guys started to get the message and then you forget again.

He is langaab CG, he will cry again when Biixi kicks his folks out of Hargeida back to their two shanty towns of Salaxley & Hawd if they act up.

Their political leader (nut job Faisal) was literally slapped across the face by Biixi. The little teen eager @Yami needs to ask his parents & grandparents about the 90s of how HB used to bully them. A war in SL is not in the interest of @Yami folks (my reer abti)

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Here are a list of a reasons as to why Somaliland has not & will not gain recognition:

1. SNM represented only one community in northern Somalia, unlike the pan-ethnic SPLA and EPLF.
2. The absence of unanimous agreement on secession among the three main communities of northern Somalia. In Eritrea, 99.8% of Muslims and Christians voted in favor of secession. In South Sudan, 97.8% of Dinka and Nuer voted in favor of secession. These communities disagreed on a lot but they were fully united behind secession.
3. Isaaq are not an overwhelming majority, like in Kosovo where Albanians are 92% of the population. Isaaq are ~55% of the population and their share is declining due to lower relative fertility Harti. 55% of the population is not large enough to police the other communitiea of northern Somalia, even if recognition were granted.
4. The only time all democratically elected representatives of all of the clans of former British Somaliland agreed on anything was June 27 1960, when they voted to join Italian Somaliland “forever”. No one elected the men who declared secession in Burco in 1991, and the 2001 referendum had no legal basis.
5. Somalia’s central government has adopted federalism for its future structure. This means that there is now ample political space for Somaliland to rejoin and maintain the institutions it has developed over the past 30 years.

I can go on and on with maybe another 10 reasons, but you catch my drift. Recognition? It is not going to happen.

Too much nonsense to honestly address.

But one point that is dear to you is your federal structure which is null and void mate.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

He is langaab CG, he will cry again when Biixi kicks his folks out of Hargeida back to their two shanty towns of Salaxley & Hawd if they act up.

Their political leader (nut job Faisal) was literally slapped across the face by Biixi. The little teen eager @Yami needs to ask his parents & grandparents about the 90s of how HB used to bully them. A war in SL is not in the interest of @Yami folks (my reer abti)

We need to avoid all out war and stick to power sharing, that means Waddani next up. Even if they act like fools.

 

[Yami]

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[Itsnotthateasy]

Fully agreed, except the part about protestors, sometimes protestors are doing too much and they need to be disciplined.

 

[jusbrowsin]

damn it not yall bonding

 

[Yami]

damn it not yall bonding

 

[Kizaru]

this nigga sounds like a dub anime character

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

I really hope you Waddani cats become villians after you are elected. This kind of attitude will get you lit up by those Kacaan who are waiting for you.

 

[NidarNidar]

Only Reer Xareed JB mix with your folks. The rest of us don’t know you nor have any blood.

The last clan to be speaking about JB is the one that annually commemorates Dilla as if it was Ashura in Karbala

Well well well, ain't it Habar Amhara, good to see you back in the FKD instead of being a lurker.

 

[jusbrowsin]

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[Thegoodshepherd]

Too much nonsense to honestly address.

But one point that is dear to you is your federal structure which is null and void mate.

This is all purely theoretical post Aug 25.

 

[berberaboy66]

Here are a list of a reasons as to why Somaliland has not & will not gain recognition:

1. SNM represented only one community in northern Somalia, unlike the pan-ethnic SPLA and EPLF.
2. The absence of unanimous agreement on secession among the three main communities of northern Somalia. In Eritrea, 99.8% of Muslims and Christians voted in favor of secession. In South Sudan, 97.8% of Dinka and Nuer voted in favor of secession. These communities disagreed on a lot but they were fully united behind secession.
3. Isaaq are not an overwhelming majority, like in Kosovo where Albanians are 92% of the population. Isaaq are ~55% of the population and their share is declining due to lower relative fertility vis a vis Harti. 55% of the population is not large enough to police the other communities of northern Somalia, even if recognition were granted.
4. The only time all democratically elected representatives of all of the clans of former British Somaliland agreed on anything was June 27 1960, when they voted to join Italian Somaliland “forever”. No one elected the men who declared secession in Burco in 1991, and the 2001 referendum had no legal basis.
5. Somalia’s central government has adopted federalism for its future structure. This means that there is now ample political space for Somaliland to rejoin and maintain the institutions it has developed over the past 30 years.

I can go on and on with maybe another 10 reasons, but you catch my drift. Recognition? It is not going to happen.

Fertility rate argument doesn’t work considering the Harti population of Somaliland have a higher infant mortality rate btw.

Everything else is true though

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

This is all purely theoretical post Aug 25.

Puntland is not even theoretical post-constitutional reform. Centralism won and you are a dinosaur trying to drag Somaliland into your langaab federal abyss.

Majeertania's langaab federalism was your last shot as a failed ruling class to have any say in Somali politics and it's over. The savages in Mogadishu won and there's no such thing as Puntland. SL has a chance to escape though so don't be so bitter and hold it back, just accept it and watch it go with dignity.

 

[Abdalla]

Ina illahi wa ina illahi rajuun I thought abtiyo @Abdalla was exaggerating about August 25th since I wasn't here to witness it but holy shitI had the laugh of my life reading from 314 through 350 while high tonight.

From Jeegan POW screeching that they're Habar Yonis in hopes of getting spared from Jebreti beatdowns to Oromo Sacad Muuse larping as Gadabuursi and Garxajis to the retard kid who went from claiming langaab Ayuub in one sentence to revealing his Sacad Muuse heritage the next the Habar Guusjeclo hiding in the wilderness of Khatumo haunted by the dancing of nearby Dhulbahante geeljies blasting SSC Dhaanto tunes & the laughing of praying waraabes and last but not least the nacas Gaxajis politicians and tribal leaders seeing a golden opportunity to finally end Jeeganland once & for all by storming Hargeisa with blue flags but instead continue appease the humiliated Bixi administration


Wallahi billahi i will never FKD Harti after this shit this is multi generational karbash not only the worse in Somali history but african and possibly world history in general. You niggas aborted the fetus that could've become a healthy newborn nation

Glad you enjoyed those classic 314 onwards pages.

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

Fertility rate argument doesn’t work considering the Harti population of Somaliland have a higher infant mortality rate btw.

Everything else is true though

I’ve looked into everything already. Sool and Sanaag have lower infant mortality than Woqoyie Galbeed and Togdheer.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/what-somalias-population-without-somaliland.125364/post-3155412

 

[Arkan]

I’ve looked into everything already. Sool and Sanaag have lower infant mortality than Woqoyie Galbeed and Togdheer.

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Damn, it's not looking good for Toghdeer.

 

[berberaboy66]

I’ve looked into everything already. Sool and Sanaag have lower infant mortality than Woqoyie Galbeed and Togdheer.

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Damn I got dunked on

The statistics confuse me though. Is it basically saying being born in a bad hospital is worse than a live birth? How does that make any sense.

Back in the day when everyone was living in the miyi the infant mortality rates were crazy. Most of Sool are reer miyi and it has the fewest hospitals in Waqooyi. Somethings not adding up