Was Bilal (RA) black? Afrocentricity and Islam

[Prince of Lasanod]

He was Habeshi kulaha

You could probably determine the roots of his mother depending on where the Bedouins culled their slaves from at the time, but the word Habeshi/a the Ethiopians use is an old word that means Black or rough-haired, and it was used expansively, besides the Abyssian borders different to how they are today. To infer Bilal was actually a Ethiopian Habesha of the highlander we know today requires proof you don't have.

He was basically part Black slave/part Arab master product like their great Arabian hero 'Antara bin Shadaad. Arabs actually sort of incorporated their slave products into their societies to varying extents, esp if the slave owner of the product was of high stature.

His father was an Arab slave, whilst his mother was a former Abyssinian Princess.

Anything more you want to say you gaal?

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

You probably talking about a Tigrinya marrying your regular Arab. Of course they would look like that. Bilal ra father was not your regular Arab of today he was those dark Arabs and his mom was probably a dark Habesha.

Who else ruled Abyssinia other than the Habeshas we know of today?

I think the reason why he was called black was because he came from a bad lineage. Although his father was an Arab, he was also a slave. If he came from a noble lineage and his father was a free man, then he wouldn't be called black.

 

[Canuck]

He was Habeshi kulaha

You could probably determine the roots of his mother depending on where the Bedouins culled their slaves from at the time, but the word Habeshi/a the Ethiopians use is an old word that means Black or rough-haired, and it was used expansively, besides the Abyssian borders different to how they are today. To infer Bilal was actually a Ethiopian Habesha of the highlander we know today requires proof you don't have.

He was basically part Black slave/part Arab master product like their great Arabian hero 'Antara bin Shadaad. Arabs actually sort of incorporated their slave products into their societies to varying extents, esp if the slave owner of the product was of high stature.

No bilal was true habashi his uncle was king 'Abraha al-Ashram' who tried to destroy Kaaba and invaded Mecca. One of historic hate of Arab to habashi people is because of this king. We have whole verse in Quran about this evil king. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_of_the_Elephant

 

[Canuck]

He was Habeshi kulaha

You could probably determine the roots of his mother depending on where the Bedouins culled their slaves from at the time, but the word Habeshi/a the Ethiopians use is an old word that means Black or rough-haired, and it was used expansively, oftentimes towards the entire continent. The Abyssian borders were different to how they are today, and as today they had nilotic and negroid constituents. To infer Bilal was actually a Ethiopian Habesha of the highlander type we know today requires proof you don't have. He could've been anything.

He was basically part Black slave/part Arab master product like their great Arabian hero 'Antara bin Shadaad. Arabs actually sort of incorporated their slave products into their societies to varying extents, esp if the slave owner of the product was of high stature.

His uncle king abraha https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraha

 

[Canuck]

He was Habeshi kulaha

You could probably determine the roots of his mother depending on where the Bedouins culled their slaves from at the time, but the word Habeshi/a the Ethiopians use is an old word that means Black or rough-haired, and it was used expansively, oftentimes towards the entire continent. The Abyssian borders were different to how they are today, and as today they had nilotic and negroid constituents. To infer Bilal was actually a Ethiopian Habesha of the highlander type we know today requires proof you don't have. He could've been anything.

He was basically part Black slave/part Arab master product like their great Arabian hero 'Antara bin Shadaad. Arabs actually sort of incorporated their slave products into their societies to varying extents, esp if the slave owner of the product was of high stature.

https://www.al-islam.org/bilal-s-bedtime-stories-a-h-sheriff-a-s-alloo/bilal-great-african-muslim

 

[VixR]

https://www.al-islam.org/bilal-s-bedtime-stories-a-h-sheriff-a-s-alloo/bilal-great-african-muslim

What do you think an Abyssinian princess from the 7th Century looked like?

Why does what you claim as his highland Habesha features conflict the hadith accounts citing "Black features", if he was distinguishable as black only by his skin tone, which would've only been made lighter by his mixed parentage?

 

[Rooble]

I think people with brown skin colour were called اسود during that time. I remember reading this Hadith talking about an incident where a companion and Bilal had something between them. The campanion ended up calling Bilal 'son of a black woman' . Bilal then complained to the Prophet (SAW) and then the prophet became angry. Not sure whether it was a Hadith (most likely it is) or not but it is a well known story. Google the name Abu dharr and Billal if you want to know more.

Many referred to him as Ibn Saud, son of a black woman pejoratively. He became angry because they denied him his his Arab father.

That's why I say he looked like your typical Southern Arabian and not your Negroid or Niger-Congo individual. We know Habesha are not your typical Negroid peoples. His mom was probably one of those exceedingly dark Abyssinians with rough hair while his Father was burnt dark Arab man

 

[Rooble]

Why do certain people necessarly want to beg him as Negroid to have a Negroid figure as part of the companions.

 

[John Michael]

He was Habeshi kulaha

You could probably determine the roots of his mother depending on where the Bedouins culled their slaves from at the time, but the word Habeshi/a the Ethiopians use is an old word that means Black or rough-haired, and it was used expansively, oftentimes towards the entire continent. The Abyssian borders were different to how they are today, and as today they had nilotic and negroid constituents. To infer Bilal was actually a Ethiopian Habesha of the highlander type we know today requires proof you don't have. He could've been anything.

He was basically part Black slave/part Arab master product like their great Arabian hero 'Antara bin Shadaad. Arabs actually sort of incorporated their slave products into their societies to varying extents, esp if the slave owner of the product was of high stature.

THANK YOU!


How do people not know this?

 

[John Michael]

Who else ruled Abyssinia other than the Habeshas we know of today?

I think the reason why he was called black was because he came from a bad lineage. Although his father was an Arab, he was also a slave. If he came from a noble lineage and his father was a free man, then he wouldn't be called black.

So your telling me his mother was an Abyssinian princess who married an arab slave? EL O EL

#sheekoxariir

 

[Rooble]

Since when were Negroids or Nilots part of Abyssinian royal family.

 

[VixR]

THANK YOU!


How do people not know this?

The level of beg for him to be HOA rooted and thus close to us lmfao. Subhanallah.
What is this, reverse Banu Hashim dee wa dintay wallahi

Why did his descendants trek to Mali?

 

[Rooble]

The level of beg for him to be HOA rooted and thus close to us lmfao. Subhanallah.
What is this, reverse Banu Hashim dee wa dintay wallahi

Why did his descendants trek to Mali?

You agree he looked like your typical South Arabian and not your typical propagated Negroid?

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

So your telling me his mother was an Abyssinian princess who married an arab slave? EL O EL

#sheekoxariir

She was captured in slavery after her father(or uncle not sure), the King of Axum who ruled over much of Arabia, failed to destroy the kaabah. This is very famous, surprised you don't know this. It's mentioned in the Qur'an.

Both Bilal's(RA) mother and father were slaves of one man called Ummayya bin Khalaf.

 

[Canuck]

What do you think an Abyssinian princess from the 7th Century looked like?

Why does what you claim as his highland Habesha features conflict the hadith accounts citing "Black features", if he was distinguishable as black only by his skin tone, which would've only been made lighter by his mixed parentage?

They didn't like his family 'S background not his color.

 

[Canuck]

The level of beg for him to be HOA rooted and thus close to us lmfao. Subhanallah.
What is this, reverse Banu Hashim dee wa dintay wallahi

Why did his descendants trek to Mali?

The Arab didn't like his family 'a legacy of invasion of Mecca.

 

[John Michael]

She was captured in slavery after her father(or uncle not sure), the King of Axum who ruled over much of Arabia, failed to destroy the kaabah. This is very famous, surprised you don't know this. It's mentioned in the Qur'an.

Both Bilal's(RA) mother and father were slaves of one man called Ummayya bin Khalaf.

The Abyssinian who attempted to destroy the Kaaba is in the Quran but hamama being his niece is not I'm sure, in fact I was taught that she was just a slave. I've never read anywhere that she was a princess.

Where can I read about her being a princess?

 

[Inactive]

He was Quraysh but his tribe rejected him because his mom was Black. He had to claim his mom's side.

 

[John Michael]

The level of beg for him to be HOA rooted and thus close to us lmfao. Subhanallah.
What is this, reverse Banu Hashim dee wa dintay wallahi

Why did his descendants trek to Mali?

Many arabs carry the last name al-habashi referring to their black roots, the idea that all of them had a very specific highlander ethiopian ancestry is crazy. Clearly habash just means black, it may not have had a negative connotation like I said earlier but it encompasses all subsaharan africans.

 

[Netero]

No bilal was true habashi his uncle was king 'Abraha al-Ashram' who tried to destroy Kaaba and invaded Mecca. One of historic hate of Arab to habashi people is because of this king. We have whole verse in Quran about this evil king. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_of_the_Elephant

Very interesting. I didn't know that he was Ethiopian. Reading the Wiki article it sounds like he attacked the Kaabah because he was disgusted by the rampant idolatry that was there before Islam. It seems like it was a bit of a misunderstanding.