What a twist LOL

[Heartbreakkid]

It's even banned on this site. Weird, wallahi. It’s not a derogatory term any more than timo jileec—it literally means the opposite and simply describes a hair texture more common among "pure" SSA people, just as Indians tend to have straight to wavy hair more often than we do, despite sometimes having a similar complexion. But yeah, some Somalis use it negatively due to their racist views toward other Africans, which has distorted its meaning to some non-Somalis in parts like the UK as something akin to the n-word. The real equivalent of that in our culture, though, is Adoon which literally means slave.

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[Heartbreakkid]

@Ashraf @Taintedlove
UK somalis made it a slur. I didn't even know what J***** was until I started interacting with Somali TikTok. Never heard that word irl.

I've even seen these mfs hop on TikTok lives and call random black people J*****.

Explaining to none somalis that J***** isn't a slur is pointless since we have a bunch of mfs using it in a derogatory way.

It’s not just UK Somalis. It’s literally UK Somalis and young fob Somalis who migrated to the west. The fobs who learned English are literally 10x worse than the UK ones. But 90% of the time it’s both of them.

 

[Heartbreakkid]

No, it became popular on the Internet. None in the UK said it in person or to people’s faces.

You’re not tapped in lol. UK Somalis were legit making UK drill rap songs calling people madows “J*reer”.

 

[Shimbiris]

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The word j*reer itself seriously just means afro-textured hair. Comparing it to n*gger is ridiculous. No one uses the n word in day to day normal English conversation to describe things but people will regularly use "timo j*reer" in a normal Somali conversation to describe even a Somali's hair texture. It's been morphed into something derogatory and a stand-in for Adoon for sure because of Somalis' attitude toward j-folks and the fact it's seen as a little too far and racist to use Adoon. They adopted the J word in the first place as a sneakier say of just saying Adoon.

And yes, I've definitely seen lots of people even on this site use Madow in a manner where I can just tell they want to say Adoon or the more sneaky J word. Don't play dumb now.

 

[NidarNidar]

Too many Somali are clout chasing s, I blame the parents, restrict that internet access, and take out the ul.

 

[Heartbreakkid]

The word j*reer itself seriously just means afro-textured hair. Comparing it to n*gger is ridiculous. No one uses the n word in day to day normal English conversation to describe things but people will regularly use "timo j*reer" in a normal Somali conversation to describe even a Somali's hair texture. It's been morphed into something derogatory and a stand-in for Adoon for sure because of Somalis' attitude toward j-folks and the fact it's seen as a little too far and racist to use Adoon. They adopted the J word in the first place as a sneakier say of just saying Adoon.

And yes, I've definitely seen lots of people even on this site use Madow in a manner where I can just tell they want to say Adoon or the more sneaky J word. Don't play dumb now.

stop describing what that word means we know what it originally means lmfao. That word gets used more for derogatory reasons amongst folks in the west than just descriptive reasons. There’s a reason why that word is banned and not madow. Madow isn’t used as a slur anywhere near….And if it ever becomes to that point, then that too becomes derogatory


“Nobody uses that day to day normal English conversation to describe people” not long ago that was case. Paki is commonly used to describe Pakistanis/South Asians in day to day conversation amongst people, but it’s a slur. And you saying “It isn’t a slur it’s just short for Pakistanis” does not change that fact. It’s called being disingenuous.

 

[Shimbiris]

stop describing what that word means we know what it originally means lmfao. That word gets used more for derogatory reasons amongst folks in the west than just descriptive reasons. There’s a reason why that word is banned and not madow. Madow isn’t used as a slur anywhere near….And if it ever becomes to that point, then that too becomes derogatory


“Nobody uses that day to day normal English conversation to describe people” not long ago that was case. Paki is commonly used to describe Pakistanis/South Asians in day to day conversation amongst people, but it’s a slur. And you saying “It isn’t a slur it’s just short for Pakistanis” does not change that fact. It’s called being disingenuous.

Are you denying that j*reer is a normal word used in day to day Somali speech? I've literally heard it used just within the last few days in conversations about hair... what's disingenuous about that, saaxiib? It's not the same as the n-word which was literally created to be a slur and doesn't have the same meaning at all. It's been morphed into something ugly because of Somalis' racism like how calling people "Blacks" has an uncomfortable feeling to it even though "black" is just a word used in day to day speech unlike n*gger. What's disingenuous about that or hard to understand?

You and I don't even misalign in overall views, ninja. You're barking up the wrong tree. I'm not anti-madow in any shape or form.

 

[Taintedlove]

Are you denying that j*reer is a normal word used in day to day Somali speech? I've literally heard it used just within the last few days in conversations about hair... what's disingenuous about that, saaxiib? It's not the same as the n-word which was literally created to be a slur and doesn't have the same meaning at all. It's been morphed into something ugly because of Somalis' racism like how calling people "Blacks" has an uncomfortable feeling to it even though "black" is just a word used in day to day speech unlike n*gger. What's disingenuous about that or hard to understand?

You and I don't even misalign in overall views, ninja. You're barking up the wrong tree. I'm not anti-madow in any shape or form.

I mean it's more like the word negroe? Once used in everyday speech but the negative connotation with racism let it die.

 

[Moon-]

Are you denying that j*reer is a normal word used in day to day Somali speech? I've literally heard it used just within the last few days in conversations about hair... what's disingenuous about that, saaxiib? It's not the same as the n-word which was literally created to be a slur and doesn't have the same meaning at all. It's been morphed into something ugly because of Somalis' racism like how calling people "Blacks" has an uncomfortable feeling to it even though "black" is just a word used in day to day speech unlike n*gger. What's disingenuous about that or hard to understand?

You and I don't even misalign in overall views, ninja. You're barking up the wrong tree. I'm not anti-madow in any shape or form.

that user is not somali

 

[Heartbreakkid]

that user is not somali

Let me guess I’m an another Oromo larper right?

 

[Kisame]

@Unicorn @Shimbiris @Heartbreakkid @Ashraf @Yami @Barni @Devilsadvocate @Taintedlove

just saw this on my fyp


British malis were bumping shit like this on a daily basis. They even had south Asians bumping their music

 

[Shimbiris]

@Unicorn @Shimbiris @Heartbreakkid @Ashraf @Yami @Barni @Devilsadvocate @Taintedlove

just saw this on my fyp


British malis were bumping shit like this on a daily basis. They even had south Asians bumping their music

Western wiilo running too wild, wallahi. I think it's time someone from the homeland showed up with well-trained FOBs from a militia back home and beat these boys into submission and turned them into an orderly and respectable cartel. I see a real future here, tbh. Brutalize and murder most of the gangs and consolidate them into one strong Somali Mafia. Big money to be made.

 

[gasara]

I mean it's more like the word negroe? Once used in everyday speech but the negative connotation with racism let it die.

The N word and the word J*reer are not on the same level. Not really comparable at all. Whenever I hear J*reer it’s always in reference to hair. Usually my hair. I’m not upset by it because it is true that I have J*reer hair. I don’t really see anything wrong with the hair. Also, a group of people call themselves J*reerwayne.

 

[gasara]

stop describing what that word means we know what it originally means lmfao. That word gets used more for derogatory reasons amongst folks in the west than just descriptive reasons. There’s a reason why that word is banned and not madow. Madow isn’t used as a slur anywhere near….And if it ever becomes to that point, then that too becomes derogatory


“Nobody uses that day to day normal English conversation to describe people” not long ago that was case. Paki is commonly used to describe Pakistanis/South Asians in day to day conversation amongst people, but it’s a slur. And you saying “It isn’t a slur it’s just short for Pakistanis” does not change that fact. It’s called being disingenuous.

I mean if it upsets you it upsets you. But that word will always be used. Me personally when people refer to my hair as j*reer, Adeeg, or Dhegaax I am not bothered by it. Even if they were to use it negatively I am not bothered by it. Because those descriptors are true. People can morph any word into a negative connotation. But why should I be upset by it? I could care less.

 

[Barni]

@Unicorn @Shimbiris @Heartbreakkid @Ashraf @Yami @Barni @Devilsadvocate @Taintedlove

just saw this on my fyp


British malis were bumping shit like this on a daily basis. They even had south Asians bumping their music

You know what I take back what I said, these niggas make it hard to defend them.

 

[Taintedlove]

The N word and the word J*reer are not on the same level. Not really comparable at all. Whenever I hear J*reer it’s always in reference to hair. Usually my hair. I’m not upset by it because it is true that I have J*reer hair. I don’t really see anything wrong with the hair. Also, a group of people call themselves J*reerwayne.

Negroe is not the N-word. N*gger is the N-word. Negroe was a less offensive way to call black people black before we called them black. It was used by black people themselves too. It was later changed to black post-1964.

Madow in a similar way was used in a neutral tone before somalis online started expressing featurism towards those who had those hair. And people absolutely do use timo adeeg in a bad way because of somalis featurism. It might not bother you, and I admire you're indifference, but it's the reality that timo Madow is looked down upon thanks texturism in African societies despite it being very beautiful imo.

 

[gasara]

Negroe is not the N-word. N*gger is the N-word. Negroe was a less offensive way to call black people black before we called them black. It was used by black people themselves too. It was later changed to black post-1964.

Madow in a similar way was used in a neutral tone before somalis online started expressing featurism towards those who had those hair. And people absolutely do use timo adeeg in a bad way because of somalis featurism. It might not bother you, and I admire you're indifference, but it's the reality that timo Madow is looked down upon thanks texturism in African societies despite it being very beautiful imo.

Oh, we were taught something else in school. They said saying negroe was offensive terminology. Madow to me just means Madow. Even if people refer to it in a negative manner in most cases I just see it referred to as our (well mine and people who are dark skin) skin colour. I rarely see it used in a negative way maybe because I am not in those spaces. So, I only see it in a neutral way. People will always find words and ways to hate people. There's not much we can do to fix them. The only thing you can do is not let them get to you and personally I wont let these kids turn Madow into a negative. Theres nothing wrong with someones Madowness.