but then you have super high fertility rates in countries where people are struggling to have food to eat. there is no way the economic hardship is harder for us in the first world.
What is your guys opinions on why birthrate is so low in countries which are more developed?
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but then you have super high fertility rates in countries where people are struggling to have food to eat. there is no way the economic hardship is harder for us in the first world.
you can see it time and time again... it's a whole list of countries.... starvation, deeply religious and conservative.... and one of the highest ranking in fertility in the world
also I believe it's a fact that you will often have first-gen immigrants who make less money and have higher fertility rates than the native Westerners.... this proves- it has to do with mindset and choices... I do not believe as Marxism does that everything boils down to economics
see? will I next be attacked for observing that fire tends to be hot? it's blatantly obvious and even experts admit it:
Secularism, even in small amounts, is associated with population stagnation or even decline absent substantial immigration, whereas highly religious countries have higher fertility rates that promote population growth. This country-level pattern is driven by more than aggregate lower fertility of secular individuals.
Secularism, even in small amounts, is associated with population stagnation or even decline absent substantial immigration, whereas highly religious countries have higher fertility rates that promote population growth. This country-level pattern is driven by more than aggregate lower fertility of secular individuals.
Secularism and Fertility Worldwide - Landon Schnabel, 2021
The cost of living in those societies are low and life is simpler. You can get by with a basic accommodation or even hut like housing. Can someone in the West do that? Even the cheapest of apartments require at least hundreds of pounds unless you're advocating for trailers and even they cost around £20k and people need gas and electricity to eat and warm up.
I'm talking about the very basics here. Forget kids schooling, clothing and daily needs which can easily go up to £100s of pounds a month.
Also, if you don't mind me asking, how old are?
religious = poor and from a shithole?
I just don't believe this idea that it's economically easier for people in poorest countries of the world to have kids than for first-worlders with first-world problems. many of these not very fertile first worlders... if they really wanted to have more kids I believe they could but they don't have the same values as higher fertility populations.
I don't call poor countries that term. But yes, poor people tend to be more religious.
No, I only call certain poor countries shitholes and unfortunately Yemen, Afghanistan and Somalia are included. Palestine and Syria are not shitholes to me.
Woah relax, I never said anything about any of the stuff you said. Plus Iagree with you there is a reason the phrase it takes a village ot raise a kid exists.
but at the same time couldn't you argue the education system raises your kids for you in the west?
I'm not denying that securalism is one of the reasons, but denying the elephant in the room-economics makes you fail to see the big picture. Solely focusing on secularism isn't going to give you a clear picture, the same can be said for economics as well.
Could you not tell them to live below their living standards and live worse in order to have more money saved up?
I'm with you, both are factors.
What happens if most of the society are financially unstable their entire life?
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then they shouldn't reproduce which is a good thing
exactly. if people wanted to sacrifice in terms of living standards to have more kids, they could do it. but they don't want to. I'm not advocating forcing them but I don't see any reason not to be honest about this.
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it's like war for example... in Vietnam the US lacked will so they lost... same in Afghanistan... so- is there the will?
in more traditional third world cultures, there is more will to have kids due to a difference in values....
and in first world there is less will to have kids.... many people see children as a burden rather than valuing them as a continuation of their bloodline and that of their ancestors... and so people will be less willing to sacrifice to have kids or to have a larger number of kids
in more traditional third world cultures, there is more will to have kids due to a difference in values....
and in first world there is less will to have kids.... many people see children as a burden rather than valuing them as a continuation of their bloodline and that of their ancestors... and so people will be less willing to sacrifice to have kids or to have a larger number of kids
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