well how many roofs does a person need? just one and you could have six kids in there. but that's not the norm for cultural reasons. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, it's just an observation on culture. you give the same space to people in more religious conservative countries they might have six kids in the same space where the Western couple has one kid and two pets.
What is your guys opinions on why birthrate is so low in countries which are more developed?
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well how many roofs does a person need? just one and you could have six kids in there. but that's not the norm for cultural reasons. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, it's just an observation on culture. you give the same space to people in more religious conservative countries they might have six kids in the same space where the Western couple has one kid and two pets.
Probably 20k-26k, but who said they need to live by themselves, they can live with parents or with friends
So they are forced to have children by their situation
One. Work with me. An average 1bed in London is around £1300. Average salary after tax around: £2200. How much does that leave for food and bills?
It simply isn’t feasible tbh. Where are they going to sleep? On top of each other? How are they going to study? In life people can live to survive. There is no doubting I suppose, but don’t expect fathers to give their daughter away to such circumstances or for wives to not work. Everyone wants their kids to at least have space.
Like I said, it’s a lot more complicated than that. Although, yes secular values is one of main reasons.
How can a married couple live with friends? I’m talking husband and wife and what if parents don’t have space as the husband has lots of brothers and sisters. Where will they sleep and raise their kids?
Do you not see how flawed your argument is?
If you save up money from a young age and invest it properly and the same as your parents you could afford flat on the outskirts of london for a cheap price and live there. Thats what alot of people do
Fertility patterns of native and migrant Muslims in Europe
this is the test right here.... if it's higher in first-generation immigrants... then you know it's mindset and not just economics...
I haven't even looked at what it says- let me see
ok- I hadn't looked before I type the text above- now I looked:
"On average Muslims have about 40% higher fertility than the overall national levels (data for 24 countries). Average TFR of migrant Muslims in Europe (2.54 children per woman) is 52% higher than fertility of the countries they reside in and 54% higher than average TFR of native Muslims (1.66 children per woman). Muslims (whether immigrant or native) tend to be employment-wise and educationally disadvantaged as we show further."
so the meme is real:
this is the test right here.... if it's higher in first-generation immigrants... then you know it's mindset and not just economics...
I haven't even looked at what it says- let me see
ok- I hadn't looked before I type the text above- now I looked:
"On average Muslims have about 40% higher fertility than the overall national levels (data for 24 countries). Average TFR of migrant Muslims in Europe (2.54 children per woman) is 52% higher than fertility of the countries they reside in and 54% higher than average TFR of native Muslims (1.66 children per woman). Muslims (whether immigrant or native) tend to be employment-wise and educationally disadvantaged as we show further."
so the meme is real:
If you start working since you enter college and work all the way till the end of uni, save up and the same as your parents, and also get into a good degree which pays well, or you have a side hustle, you could afford a flat in london.
But noone does that because they either don't realise how hard ault life will be and how much money they will need or they just wanna have fun in their teenage years
Syrias war is much newer and it isn't just a bunch of clans fighting. they actually have both Russia and America destabilizing them. There's levels to this.
It'd be best if you worried about your own sperm.Fertility patterns of native and migrant Muslims in Europe
this is the test right here.... if it's higher in first-generation immigrants... then you know it's mindset and not just economics...
I haven't even looked at what it says- let me see
ok- I hadn't looked before I type the text above- now I looked:
"On average Muslims have about 40% higher fertility than the overall national levels (data for 24 countries). Average TFR of migrant Muslims in Europe (2.54 children per woman) is 52% higher than fertility of the countries they reside in and 54% higher than average TFR of native Muslims (1.66 children per woman). Muslims (whether immigrant or native) tend to be employment-wise and educationally disadvantaged as we show further."
so the meme is real:
mind your business, no one gave you a right to try to micromanage me like that... if you don't care about facts and truth that's on you but I'm not opposed to facts and truth
You've been on ur period these past couple days relax man
imagine if I told a woman she can't look at statistics and study sociological facts about society.... you feminazis just want to rule over men
you complain about "policing women" if men complain about women walking around half-naked... and then want to police the smallest details of male behavior and when it's not anything that's even something wrong... I don't know of any interpretation of Islam that says you can't study statistics about society... it is purely stepping over what is proper and without any just cause... I don't treat the feminazis like that
you feminazis even want to try to tell men what they're allowed to think.
wallahi I intend on coming for the feminazi ideology... that was completely unjustified to antagonize me like that and this is a common thing of feminazis
you complain about "policing women" if men complain about women walking around half-naked... and then want to police the smallest details of male behavior and when it's not anything that's even something wrong... I don't know of any interpretation of Islam that says you can't study statistics about society... it is purely stepping over what is proper and without any just cause... I don't treat the feminazis like that
you feminazis even want to try to tell men what they're allowed to think.
wallahi I intend on coming for the feminazi ideology... that was completely unjustified to antagonize me like that and this is a common thing of feminazis
Men don't need periods because they're forever emotional
Wallahi you know your lying now
Yep, hard to do when you’re from a working class background and that is a lot of people that don’t have that support system.
Btw, how much do you think is a flat in Essex, Surrey or Reading?
I know its cheaper than london, so I would assume a 1 bedroom flat is around 18k a year plus gas and elec and bills mayeb 28k a year
I know so many people who grew up on council estates but still found ways to make money and save up from a young age, If you put the work in from the age of 16-17 you can be pretty good by the time you are 25, its all about being smart and working hard.
The problem is most ppl who are working class grow up around bums so they adopt this lifestyle and become lazy like them. don't be fooled most of us in the UK are just lazy, the poorest people watch the most tv a day, poorer people usually party and go out to the bar and pub, they play around.
Alot of poor people work difficult jobs though I am not denying that, but most people in the west if they wanted could live decently,
Qeelbax do you actually think men are more emotional than women?
First you think men are on a similar level of horniness than women which is hilarious me hearing this as a man and all the men in the forum were probably laughing at you, but I cited multiple studies and so did reformed J which refuted you.
What other misconceptions about men do you have?
Reer gaajo have it tuff I was making more than that working at Walmart at 17
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