sellout? how is bragging about the media representation of madow men something to envy? why would anyone be proud of being seen as thugs or criminals? don’t you think this contributes to racism, as if america doesn’t use the media for that exact purpose? and it’s not even out of choice. many rappers don’t come from the "struggle". if they had the option to do something else, they would. same with female pop stars who sell a vulgar image yet claim to be empowered, but everything they do is controlled by men and made to pander to a male audience. neither one owns their image or has full control.
What's the obsession with black people particularly black women?
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Don’t let it affect you tf at the end of the day all that matters is that you as an individual get it together and you have it good … cuz maybe this is my personal experience but despite all that I hear about this “black women are like xyz” shit, I have NEVER had that shit projected onto me. I’m sorry, but because I carry myself good and well, apparently I’m cute 
don’t take it from me tho this is just what I have been told.
Now the reason I think this is relevant is because my personal experience has me feeling like this lady on this podcast knows she’s talking bs but she is trying to subtly boast to the men she’s talking to… but notice how the men weren’t even taking it
these mfs straight up interrupted her saying “it doesn’t make sense at all”, cuz it DONT, but it doesn’t matter to this indhayar girl cuz all she’s trying to do is throw black girls under the bus so she can insinuate that she’s tight 
I’m telling yall I have seen this behaviour time and time again, I can go on but yall get the point. Don’t give this *** any more attention trust me
don’t take it from me tho this is just what I have been told.Now the reason I think this is relevant is because my personal experience has me feeling like this lady on this podcast knows she’s talking bs but she is trying to subtly boast to the men she’s talking to… but notice how the men weren’t even taking it
these mfs straight up interrupted her saying “it doesn’t make sense at all”, cuz it DONT, but it doesn’t matter to this indhayar girl cuz all she’s trying to do is throw black girls under the bus so she can insinuate that she’s tight I’m telling yall I have seen this behaviour time and time again, I can go on but yall get the point. Don’t give this *** any more attention trust me
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I'm sorry my guy but in the real world it's not black culture that's appreciated. It's black American culutre spefically . Appreciation of pop culutre also doesn't mean anything. I mean look at how many people watch bollywood all over the middle east. Yet look at how indians are seen in the middle east ? Combine this with the fact that there isn't a single semi developed black african country or some mega ancient african civilization (I'm talking something on the scale of india,China or the "west ")
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I promise you, it has nothing to do with 'jealousy". If there is hate against "black" people, it is due to stereotypes and forced superiority complex.
People generally like to feel good about themselves. Those less consciously evolved will often see the world in simple hierarchical structures. In their mind "black" represents the lowest level of humanity. Blackness is savage, lazy, ugly, intellectually inferior and least evolved in their minds.
The best way to deal with this, is to know that these projections do not have to be your reality, nor are they true. But proclaiming swagger and sex appeal do not help your case, but rather aggravate it. Unfortunately many "blacks" inadvertently do everything in their power to keep the stereotypes alive.
Taintedlove
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Their culture is "Appreciated" but Not Respected. It’s commodified, not truly valued. It generates wealth for others, not the people who create it. It reinforces negative stereotypes, poverty, crime, hyper-consumerism.
True cultural power comes from economic and intellectual influence, not just entertainment.
Japan, China, and Germany are respected because they control their industries, not because of pop culture. If a culture is controlled by outsiders, it becomes a tool for exploitation rather than empowerment.
Modern Black American culture is actually is just them seeking comfort in poverty and lack of education, that comes from the ghetto's that white people drove them into. You can see it in the way they speak Ebonics, it really isn't a cultural vernacular it's just lack of education bringing down their speech, no different from the uneducated rural rednecks in the south. Then you can also look at the sports that dominate like Basketball instead of Tennis or Golf for example which shows low income vs middle-high income sports because the financial entry bar requirements are too high for them.
The hyper consumerism or "swag" comes from them trying surround themselves with symbols of wealth and validation that they feel to have been deprived off. They end up buying stuff but rarely owning or producing anything so wealth keeps escaping.
They also embrace the hyper-criminalization and sexualisation and re-package it as something hip or cool. When they are in reality mass exploited and denied humanity in the process. Both actual generates big revenues for industries controlled by white people, even for-profit jails. It makes them seen as both threatening and alluring by the wider society.
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I believe Indians are viewed in that particular way because they immigrate to the Middle East to fill lower roles and low wage labour, take on work like labourers, house cleaners, street vendors, maids they are basically recruited into modern slavery like conditions in what is called Kafala system.
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Their treatment and perception is directly correlated to that. People judge a group based on their economic contribution and social role. Workers in low-status jobs are treated poorly, regardless of nationality. Those who control capital, industry, and investment earn respect.
I also actually talked about it a bit using Nigerian, Ethiopians, Sudanese in Arab countries and compared the latter with Somalis. Somalis in Egypt, the UAE, and other Arab countries run businesses, work in finance, and are investors. Instead of being maids or laborers, they work in money transfer companies, service industries, and entrepreneurship. Somalis stick together, reinvest in their own people, and control their economic networks.
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Exactly. I've always felt that while black pouplar culture was seen as a sort of cool youth culture. It ultimate boils down to entertainment. It's not even something like classic music which people admire and spend years studying. There is nothing that people in the diaspora or those of us who live in africa look at and say this is african high culture.
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It is commercialized and commodified entertainment driven culture.
Black Americans typically did not have classical training or sight reading skills, so their music became more expressive and improvised.
It subtly lacking in substance and intellectualism, and then laters it became just drapped in mockery, consumerism and tokenism and lacking in independent cultural expression that it used to have.
A lot of it is actually shaped from the successive conditions between 1950-1990s when several oppressive polices crippled black community economically and they even lost control of their culture that became commercialized and sold by white/jewish people. It began in the 50/60s just as they began to grow economically.
Talked about it briefly in this post
I have to agree with @ilmoweyn . Black poverty rate increased in the 50/60s mainly because of discrimination, although it was prevalent throughout the decades before it.
It began first through job-loss.
Just as black unemployment had increased in the South with the mechanization of cotton production, black unemployment in Northern cities soared as labor-saving technology eliminated many semiskilled and unskilled jobs that historically had provided many blacks with work.
In the 1950s and '60s, Black sharecroppers, tenant farmers, and agricultural laborers in the South — the poorest of the poor — were being replaced by machines and forced off the land by plantation owners determined to reduce Afro-American populations before they achieved voting majorities in Black Belt counties. Freedom Movement efforts such as the Mississippi Freedom Labor Union, Poor Peoples Corporations, and Co-Ops had little long-term success, and new streams of unskilled, rural poor flowed into the urban slums of the North and West.
Then through series of barring them from work, investments, loans/banking/insurances/mortgages, housing , political power and education
Segregation even acted as wealth extraction from where nonresidential whites would just suck the money out of Black communities, after barring them from everything basically.
Landlords would only rent apartments to tenants of the designated race, banks and federal agencies wouldn't give or insure mortgages to buyers of the wrong color, realtors steered their clients to the "correct" neighborhoods. In some instances, real estate ads and classified listings of available apartments explicitly stated racial restrictions. The deeds to many homes, apartment buildings, and developments contained restrictive covenants specifying who they could be sold or rented to. While most of these restrictions referred only to race, some also barred Jews, for example:
Some white suburbs were known as "sundown towns" where people of color had to be gone by sundown or face arrest on trumped-up charges, or vigilante violence, or both. In many cases, official signs were posted to make this policy explicit. In Hawthorne CA, for example, a sign read: ", Don't Let The Sun Set On YOU In Hawthorne." But most of the signs simply said: "Whites Only Within City Limits After Dark".
Within the ghetto, economic power was primarily held by businesses and institutions owned by non-resident whites who financially profited from segregated housing. They enriched themselves, and by so doing placed added burdens — often insurmountable ones — on people trying climb out poverty.
They would also force them to pay high prices and rents for slum rund down apartments significantly higher than what white people would pay significantly less for nice neat sanitary new apartments.
This gives you more or less a run down of it and goes through the laws enacted.
Ghettos, Segregation, & Poverty in the 1960s
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The first waves of Asian Americans were discriminated against and hated and formed apart of the lower rungs of society when they arrived. They even hate similar laws in place that restricted them and later they actually banned them. They made posters, exhibits with blatant racist caricatures of them.
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While these cultural values are positive, it is worth remembering that less than a century ago, Asians were described as illiterate, undesirable, and unassimilable immigrants, full of “filth and disease.” As “marginal members of the human race,” they were denied the right to naturalize, denied the right to intermarry, and were residentially segregated in crowded ethnic enclaves. They were even, in the case of Japanese immigrants, forced into internment camps.
These Asian immigrants are not only more highly educated than U.S. citizens, they’re more highly educated than their own countrymen. This reflects high selectivity among those who chose to immigrate. For example, 53% of Korean immigrants to the U.S. have a bachelor’s degree or higher, compared to only 36% of adults in South Korea.
Among Chinese and Vietnamese immigrants, the selectivity is far greater: 51% of Chinese immigrants and 26% of Vietnamese immigrants have at least a bachelor’s degree, compared to only 5% of adults in China and Vietnam. This is where we see “hyper-selectivity.”
It's only later on the migration pattern changed with self selectiveness, its only the rich affluent educated Asians and Chinese that migrate to America from their homeland, not the average person.
Also they benefit a lot from government sponsored grants start businesses when they arrive.
You can see the beginning of Black consumer culture starting to take shape in this video and white people exploiting it. You can see directly what would lead them down to higher buyers of brands , like Jordans and Timberlands etc. Flashy expensive stuff.
This video in the early 50s is incredible it really shows that they were valued as consumers but not as human beings.
It's basically a How To Guide on how to extract wealth from Blacks.
One thing that's observable also is that they used to be more intact as a family structure , had higher ownership, had more employment. So you see it throughout this video. They didn't just only have buying power like they do today.
Cadaans basically systematically destroyed their family structure, sense of community and economically deprived them and the cultural by-product of it today is believed to be Black American culture.
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Basically , Before the 1960s, Black communities were more self-reliant. They had their own businesses, owned more homes, strong family structures, and economic networks.
After the Civil Rights Movement, consumer culture was weaponized against them. Black buying power became a focus, but wealth-building opportunities were denied.
Predatory marketing turned them into consumers rather than producers. This led to the glorification of expensive brands ( luxury goods) rather than financial independence.
Media representation reinforced stereotypes, limiting how Black culture was perceived.
Black Americans were targeted as consumers rather than empowered as entrepreneurs, creating a cycle of dependency.
I actually believe this economic sabotage only proved to be effective and lasting because of the lack of cultural commitments and attachment Black people had to eachother being that they are made up of socially heterogeneous groups of people , so they were disconnected and how they sought to seek white approval & validation and assimilate into white-dominated systems to gain acceptance.
Because Jewish communities maintained tight economic networks. They invested within their own communities, ensuring generational wealth transfer. Despite the discrimination and economic targeting they faced. Maintaining a sense of "in-group" loyalty when it comes to economic matters.
Black people on the other hand lacked cultural unity and economic solidarity
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empressjamila
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Something I notice with Canadian Somalis is that we are cool with other black people and they’re cool with us. There is really no fighting amongst black people here. I grew up in a metro housing building with hella Caribbean people, and many were good friends of mine growing up. They see us as black people as well and part of the canadian black community.
It’s unfortunate that the Somali-other black people relations are so poor in other countries (like the UK).
Garaad Awal
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No such thing of a Canadian Black community. You are being a typical Torontonian just Americanizing everything. America has a black community/ethncity. Canada just has a mosaic of different groups who happen to share a skin color, it is no way a community.
That's because Canadian Somalis are ghetto as hell and just as if not more dysgenic than blacks with only the older generation being more cultured.
Who on earth are you talking to you knuckle dragging frothing at the mouth jungle monkey, my pfp is because of the name I use for the site retard, youve got gang bangers as your pfp lecturing me about mine pull your trousers up nigga. As for the not knowing how the world works i live on my own pay taxes and go out of my to educate myself on a myriad of issues if someone asked you, your fat descended lip would only droop at, show some respect. Just because someone happened to mildly disagree you chimp out like an autistic high school bully in the 90s clown.
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This is because of the Uks poor planning when it came to bringing immigrants over Somalis came at a time in the 90s where gang warfare and ethnic tensions were at an all time high, yes Somalis nowadays need to calm down and move on but back then it wasnt easy, friend groups were determined by where you lived and where you lived a lot of the times was determined which people lived there so you had ethnic enclaves.
Exactly my answer too plus its a coping mechanism to say they hate us because theyre jealous of our swag, when slavery or lynchings happen white people werent saying were killing him cos of duke dennis aura people just hate
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Ur not completely wrong it’s true they hate us because they’re bad people but it’s more to it than just that no one hates someone just because they’re a bad person there’s always a reason for their hate. Whether it be some black dude wronged them sometime in their life or just plain old jealousy cause we are the most desired group of men there is always a reason.
Brush up on ur history Canada and America was one big colony back in the days British America. Slaves were brought to Canada the same way they were brought to America and there was also some that fled to Canada once slavery was abolished there. Go to Nova Scotia there are large groups of Black Canadians living there for generations.
British folk in general are race obsessed the people over here are much more liberal and accepting of multiculturalism. Immigrants here tend to stick together and help each other especially black people other blacks have been nicer to me than any other race it’s a shame when gaalo madows show me more respect than fellow muslims.
It’s not always jealousy but usually that is the case my guy if you don’t believe me then go bag urself some ajnabi ting then talk to her father tell him you’re dating his daughter and ur in love with her. If you’re lucky he’ll act cool to ur face then tell that bytch to cut ur ass off the second ur out the door. Extra points if u try this with a fellow Muslim of a different complexion all that Islamic brotherhood shyt goes out the window dude won’t give a fukk if ur a Hafiz. Proceed with caution tho I can’t be held liable if ur ass takes a bat to the face
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