Why blind "unionists" are the Problem of Somalia

[Juuqbuuqluuq]

It amazes me how clan states who have no pavements think they can be a country

It amazes me that a country who receives world aid, has access to loans etc and a foreign army of 30k soldiers still can't liberate more than Villa Somalia. Delusional AF

 

[Juuqbuuqluuq]

How was it debunked?

Show me evidence that Somaliland primary school completion rate is higher than this figure?

Also, explain to me why Somaliland is gotten significantly worse since 2006?

I'm waiting.

It was that report

 

[EDsomali]

It was that report

Debunk it.

I'm waiting.

 

[Juuqbuuqluuq]

Debunk it.

I'm waiting.

just search world bank here. Lot of people caught L's I'll save you the embarrassing, Ramadan is month of mercy

 

[EDsomali]

just search world bank here. Lot of people caught L's I'll save you the embarrassing, Ramadan is month of mercy

So no debunk lol.

Classic Qabilist, when the truth comes out you hide.

Here is a more recent study by the world bank.

http://microdata.worldbank.org/index.php/catalog/3181

Exactly the same results, even show Somaliland to have by far the highest poverty rate out of all of Somalia.

And you guys want to be an independent country.

 

[Juuqbuuqluuq]

So no debunk lol.

Classic Qabilist, when the truth comes out you hide.

Here is a more recent study by the world bank.

http://microdata.worldbank.org/index.php/catalog/3181

Exactly the same results, even show Somaliland to have by far the highest poverty rate out of all of Somalia.

And you guys want to be an independent country.

Theres a search bar kid, use it. Like I said alot of people ate dirt when it was debunked. World bank actually became the butt of all jokes for awhile on here and other forums

 

[EDsomali]

Theres a search bar kid, use it. Like I said alot of people ate dirt when it was debunked. World bank actually became the butt of all jokes for awhile on here and other forums

I showed you a newly updated study.

Debunk this one then.

I'm waiting.

 

[Abdurahman_somali]

You qabilists are funny people.

Somalis are worse off under your qabiil system than even under Siad Barre brutal dictatorship mixed in with his weird socialism.

Somaliland and Puntland have both regressed since 2006.

The argument your making is somehow Somalis are better under this divided system is false.

The truth is and will hurt you qabilist, is that Somalis would be better under one centralised leadership and government.

Thanks for the delisional wishes of yours, but centralism is not ever gonna happen in the current situation. Typical unionists you lack the ability to judge the situation, based on our problems. You missed the whole point. I asked for reasonable solutions based on the facts. It is easy to call me qabiliste (im not really on), but with such accusations you just hide your incompetence to deal with rhe reality.

 

[EDsomali]

Thanks for the delisional wishes of yours, but centralism is not ever gonna happen in the current situation. Typical unionists you lack the ability to judge the situation, based on our problems. You missed the whole point. I asked for reasonable solutions based on the facts. It is easy to call me qabiliste (im not really on), but with such accusations you just hide your incompetence to deal with rhe reality.

There aren't any solutions other than centralism.

Also, centralism is just as likely as balkanization or Somaliland independence.

So you qabilists are even more delusion than centralists as they advocate for a system that works whereas you advocate for a system that doesn't work and is more unlikely to occur.

 

[Abdurahman_somali]

"Puntland will never accept a central state, because of whathappened in the Mudug massacre"... what are you on about kid ! , we the cumar maxamud dont hold grudges!

You are not intelligent enough to get my point i guess. Centralism means a united army, where one man can order the army to make crimes in different parts of the country. This happened in Mudug, Hargeysa and Burco. These communities would never unite the army again, with someone from xamar giving orders.

Secondly "we the cumar maxamud", since when did you become a spokesman for your tribe ? just be on point and talk for yourself

 

[Abdurahman_somali]

There aren't any solutions other than centralism.

Also, centralism is just as likely as balkanization or Somaliland independence.

So you qabilists are even more delusion than centralists as they advocate for a system that works whereas you advocate for a system that doesn't work and is more unlikely to occur.#

This debate is a little bit to high for you. Again, centralism is impossible to happen, no one would deny that with sense. Typical delusional person, his solution for everthing is, when we unite everthing will become better. Again, im not qabiliste, just because i refute your childish dreams.

Present a realistic solution or miss us with your fake nationalism.

 

[Abdurahman_somali]

Federalism is for large countries with diverse ethnic groups and languages like Russia or a large country like US.

Somalia must be centralised to become a World power and take back Somali Galbeed and the deep south of NFD.

Brother you talk about NFD and Somali Galbeed, when your capital is occupied, see this is exactly the problem, when you blindly believe union and centralism will solve e every problem.

 

[EDsomali]

This debate is a little bit to high for you. Again, centralism is impossible to happen, no one would deny that with sense. Typical delusional person, his solution for everthing is, when we unite everthing will become better. Again, im not qabiliste, just because i refute your childish dreams.

Present a realistic solution or miss us with your fake nationalism.

I'm not arguing about what will happen or what's possible. I only argue about what is best for Somalis.

The Solution to Somalis problems is centralism and only centralism under one effective government.

If they don't want that then let them continue to be the poorest, least developed and most divided country on earth.

Not my problem.

 

[nine]

Present a realistic solution.

A heavy handed dictator for the south.
Annihilation of opposition. Execute, arrest, imprison and silence all opposition. If my sub clan opposes me I wouldn't think twice about inflicting massacres on my own brother. People would start to view MSB as soft, compared towards me
Khat eating local tribal degenrates drink their shah and sell their caano. No democracy for the deaf dumb blind population who can't even look after their health (khat)

 

[Abdurahman_somali]

A heavy handed dictator for the south.
Annihilation of opposition. Execute, arrest, imprison and silence all opposition. If my sub clan opposes me I wouldn't think twice about inflicting massacres on my own brother. People would start to view MSB as soft, compared towards me
Khat eating local tribal degenrates drink their shah and sell their caano. No democracy for the deaf dumb blind population who can't even look after their health (khat)

I overlook the part where you talk about killings of opposition.


But what I've understood is, you want a strong leader for everthing south Galkacyo. This sounds somehow reasonable, considering the fact most southern people are not opposed to centralism.

 

[embarassing]

 

[Abdurahman_somali]

I'm not arguing about what will happen or what's possible. I only argue about what is best for Somalis.

The Solution to Somalis problems is centralism and only centralism under one effective government.

If they don't want that then let them continue to be the poorest, least developed and most divided country on earth.

Not my problem.

You are exactly the blind unionists i talked about. You are to scared to look in the harsh reality and you don't care for the situation and solutions, all you do is dreaming of what is "good for Somalis". If someone comes with a solution, which is not Somaliwayn, you call him qabiliste. Cajiib.

 

[embarassing]

You are exactly the blind unionists i talked about. You are to scared to look in the harsh reality and you don't care for the situation and solutions, all you do is dreaming of what is "good for Somalis". If someone comes with a solution, which is not Somaliwayn, you call him qabiliste. Cajiib.

Lol you only have this opinion because you believe it's shared by your clan, not because you've thought about it genuinely as an individual and have come to a well thought out conclusion. Quite the opposite with @EDsomali . All your accusations better describe yourself tbh.

 

[Abdurahman_somali]

Lol you only have this opinion because you believe it's shared by your clan, not because you've thought about it genuinely as an individual and have come to a well thought out conclusion. Quite the opposite with @EDsomali . All your accusations better describe yourself tbh.

I'm thinking of becoming a unionist, just to be defended by you. First Kheyre, Farmaajo and now @EDsomali

 

[bluebird]

too be honest the real problem of somalia are people who live in rural areas. The bring the whole country down with their constant fighting every month