Why does FGM happen in Somalia?

IstarZ

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There seems to be a lot of confusion in the last few pages.

FGM is a horrible, horrible practice. It’s not Islamic at all. It’s called fircooni/Pharaonic circumcision because it’s associated with the Ancient Egyptians.

Sunnah circumcision or gudniin is deemed permissible (not obligatory) but it is considered waajib in the Shafi’i’madhab.

This involves a trimming of the clitoris to increase sexual pleasure.

It’s known as hoodectomy or even labiaplasty and it’s a popular cosmetic procedure these days.

Notice how this practice isn’t to the detriment of a woman’s health or psychological well-being?
 
You shouldn’t have joined this discussion if you’re sensitive. You came in spewing xaar and saying nonsensical stuff which isn’t even Islamic at all. Learn to differentiate between FGM and circumcision.
You can't really perform circumcision on women tho :hmm:

The only reason we have circumsision done on men is because the extra skin can collect dirt and germs which makes it unhygienic :wow1:

Laakin women don't have this issue, so why do we preform FGM on them?
 
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Where does it say remove the labia? You lack reading comprehension skills. That’s why you resort to arguing semantics and changing the meanings of sentences :mjlol:
I guess maybe you don’t understand that uncircumcised women have labia minora, and that during fgm type II & III that’s completely or partially removed. That quote is therefore saying that uncircumcised women have an issue where secretions or fluids are trapped in the labia minora which turns rancid, causing infections etc. We can then infer from that statement that the alteration or removal of the labia is beneficial. That’s essentially what he’s saying. Furthermore the fact that he mentioned anything at all about the labia minora already tells us he’s referring to FGM II or III. The sunnah Islamic circumcision DOES NOT involve the labia.

I don’t know how much clearer I can be. You can’t be this dense, I think you’re trolling me

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I guess maybe you don’t understand that uncircumcised women have labia minora, and that during fgm type II & III that’s completely or partially removed. That quote is therefore saying that uncircumcised women have an issue where secretions or fluids are trapped in the labia minora which turns rancid, causing infections etc. We can then infer from that statement that the alteration or removal of the labia is beneficial. That’s essentially what he’s saying. Furthermore the fact that he mentioned anything at all about the labia minora already tells us he’s referring to FGM II or III. The sunnah Islamic circumcision DOES NOT involve the labia.

I don’t know how much clearer I can be. You can’t be this dense, I think you’re trolling me

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Exactly.

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You shouldn’t have joined this discussion if you’re sensitive. You came in spewing xaar and saying nonsensical stuff which isn’t even Islamic at all. Learn to differentiate between FGM and circumcision.
Let me ask you this then.

If it's "Sunnah", would you like to have FGM done on you? So that you don't feel any more sexual pleasure from your husband. Sex, peeing and periods become painful as well.

No, right?

We need to eradicate FGM from the face of the earth.
 

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Let me ask you this then.

If it's "Sunnah", would you like to have FGM done on you? So that you don't feel any more sexual pleasure from your husband. Sex, peeing and periods become painful as well.

No, right?

We need to eradicate FGM from the face of the earth.
You are misunderstanding like the rest of them. FGM and circumcision are two different things. One is the complete removal which is haram. The other is the sunnah and it is the small removal of a certain area of clitoris which doesn’t change anything (pleasure wise) but it has health benefits. Does that make sense? Everyone needs to stop calling the sunnah one FGM because it isn’t.
 
You are misunderstanding like the rest of them. FGM and circumcision are two different things. One is the complete removal which is haram. The other is the sunnah and it is the small removal of a certain area of clitoris which doesn’t change anything (pleasure wise) but it has health benefits. Does that make sense? Everyone needs to stop calling the sunnah one FGM because it isn’t.
Can you link sources to your second part? "It doesn't change anything pleasure wise and has health benefits". I want sources to everything.
 
A reel naag nool! :mjswag:
You wish washy, stick to one side of the argument warya.
Exactly.

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Lol didn’t you just congratulate her lol...this girl uses a source that clearly advocates for FGM types II & III and makes it seem like I’m crazy for pointing that out. I hope for her sake she’s in her teens because I’m surprised that she’s actually arguing with me on this. What can I say you win some you lose some! Just never thought I’d meet a diaspora girl who advocates for fgm of either type.
 
You wish washy, stick to one side of the argument warya.

Lol didn’t you just congratulate her lol...this girl uses a source that clearly advocates for FGM types II & III and makes it seem like I’m crazy for pointing that out. I hope for her sake she’s in her teens because I’m surprised that she’s actually arguing with me on this. What can I say you win some you lose some! Just never thought I’d meet a diaspora girl who advocates for fgm of either type.
I don't agree with all of what she says. I don't even think it's Sunnah.

These men in Africa have drilled this toxic mindset into her
 

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I guess maybe you don’t understand that uncircumcised women have labia minora, and that during fgm type II & III that’s completely or partially removed. That quote is therefore saying that uncircumcised women have an issue where secretions or fluids are trapped in the labia minora which turns rancid, causing infections etc. We can then infer from that statement that the alteration or removal of the labia is beneficial. That’s essentially what he’s saying. Furthermore the fact that he mentioned anything at all about the labia minora already tells us he’s referring to FGM II or III. The sunnah Islamic circumcision DOES NOT involve the labia.

I don’t know how much clearer I can be. You can’t be this dense, I think you’re trolling me

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I posted this article because the guy was asking me about sexual pleasure and if women who have FGM do feel anything. Why are you talking about other topics unrelated to anything I was talking about? I have complete faith in the Islamic article I listed and if it states that female circumcision has health benefits then I will take that as 100% sahih. I won’t put the Islamic scholar above another article which talks about sexual pleasure in FGM women.

You see your logic? Putting an Islamic article which is talking about health benefits against an article which is talking about the sexual pleasure in FGM women.

I don’t know how many times I’ve debunked your arguments now but keep them coming!
 

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