Why does Islam ban nationalism?

[click-boom]

Yeah I get that. And I find it to problematic.

The Muslim world is too diverse for that.

and? it has always been diverse since the first caliphate till the last the ottomans and till isa comes back.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Yeah I get that. And I find it to problematic.

The Muslim world is too diverse for that.

Another Ayan hersi in the making, wallahi dumarka qaarkood fardheeratey bey inigu noqdiin illahay sharkooda hanaga qabto amiin ya rabb!

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Do you believe that Islam is the true and only religion of Allah? Do you believe that the Quran is the Word of Allah? Do you believe that Allah is the Most Just?

If you answer no to any of those questions then my dear sister I fear for your Iman and I advise you to learn your deen especially while the Shaytaan is locked away in this beautiful month. I truly love you for the sake of Allah and I am so happy that you are asking questions and are seeking knowledge. May Allah bless you with 'Ilm and allow you to taste the sweetness of Iman, Ameen.

If the answers are all yes, then you need to ask yourself, if Allah is the Most Just and superior to all things how can I say that a man made ideology/system is superior to the system of Allah 'az wajjal?

Masha Allah reegedi laakinse maxa weeye shaidankas avatarkada soo dhex gelisey acudu billahi mina shadani rajeem.

 

[BebsiBolice]

Do you believe that Islam is the true and only religion of Allah? Do you believe that the Quran is the Word of Allah? Do you believe that Allah is the Most Just?

If you answer no to any of those questions then my dear sister I fear for your Iman and I advise you to learn your deen especially while the Shaytaan is locked away in this beautiful month. I truly love you for the sake of Allah and I am so happy that you are asking questions and are seeking knowledge. May Allah bless you with 'Ilm and allow you to taste the sweetness of Iman, Ameen.

If the answers are all yes, then you need to ask yourself, if Allah is the Most Just and superior to all things how can I say that a man made ideology/system is superior to the system of Allah 'az wajjal?

Yes Allah is superior. But why should non Muslims have to adhere to Islamic laws? Don't they have a say in how their countries should be run? That is what I find problematic with Sharia laws.

 

[BebsiBolice]

and? it has always been diverse since the first caliphate till the last the ottomans and till isa comes back.

So 1,8 million people, who don't share language culture nor history should all live by one rule?no borders no culture Just ummah?

 

[Inactive]

Nationalism means loyalty.

You can only have loyalty in Islam, not nations.

I am more loyal to Canada than @Cognitivedissonance is to Islam lol. I promise.

 

[BebsiBolice]

Nationalism means loyalty.

You can only have loyalty in Islam, not nations.

I am more loyal to Canada than @Cognitivedissonance is to Islam lol. I promise.

Yeah he commits so many sins. He even flaunts them here

 

[click-boom]

Yes Allah is superior. But why should non Muslims have to adhere to Islamic laws? Don't they have a say in how their countries should be run? That is what I find problematic with Sharia laws.

you follow the laws of the country you live in. why should Muslims follow secular man made laws in Canada or Sweden or whatever? because they live there.

 

[ChickenOriental]

Yes Allah is superior. But why should non Muslims have to adhere to Islamic laws? Don't they have a say in how their countries should be run? That is what I find problematic with Sharia laws.

Shari'ah is the true Justice. Why?

Because unlike Western law which is subject to change and can be distorted this way and that to suit the interests of-usually- rich, white men, the Sharee'ah is prescribed by the truly impartial judge - Allah. Allah has no gender, no race, no socioeconomic status - no horse in the race. Anything prescribed from economics, to the inheritance, to the judicial system, to the rights of the child, the rights of the wife/husband, the neigbours etc. is from Allah and is truly just.

Even the non-Muslims would benefit from such a system as they would be saved from the evils that are prevalent in society now such as the widespread use of interest to enslave the masses. If people were shown just how beautiful Sharee'ah is, the non-believers would reject their capitalist system - which has destroyed the world - in a heartbeat.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Nationalism means loyalty.

You can only have loyalty in Islam, not nations.

I am more loyal to Canada than @Cognitivedissonance is to Islam lol. I promise.

You're a subject of queen Elizabeth of Great Britain you serf don't forget that.

 

[Mckenzie]

I



Arab Muslims who spearheaded the Muslim
caliphates did actually force native people they have conquered out of their land's. When arab Muslim armies defeat others, for example north Africa arabs tribes would move in and settle. They have also forced the natives to pay jiziya taxation.

Did they do that in Somalia? Ethiopia? India? China? Mali? Iran?

True they did conquer some places with the sword. Islam propagates that, i won't pretend Islam is a fairytale movement. The Crusades can attest to that.

The Berbers of North Africa became Muslims en masse. The leader of the Muslim legion that conquered Spain was Tarik Ziyad a Berber man from North Africa.

 

[BebsiBolice]

you follow the laws of the country you live in. why should Muslims follow secular man made laws in Canada or Sweden or whatever? because they live there.

Not every Somali is a Muslim and not every Muslim will want sharia laws. With this argument your basically saying we should force people, Somali people to follow our belief system. Islam is a religion. I don't believe religion should be used when governing a country.

 

[Inactive]

You're a subject of queen Elizabeth of Great Britain you serf don't forget that.

Her Majesty the Queen is my head of state walalo

 

[Inactive]

Yeah he commits so many sins. He even flaunts them here

Lol we are worlds apart but I like him. I can still find some believers like him honorable

 

[click-boom]

So 1,8 million people, who don't share language culture nor history should all live by one rule?no borders no culture Just ummah?

It's 1.8 billion. How can you have borders inside an empire, except for maybe providences?. also 90% of Muslims already live by one rule, which is Islam. Most of them follow Islam more than they follow the western law and customs.

 

[BebsiBolice]

I think Somalis need a de islamificafion. Some Somalis have made the religion their identity and wanna force that identity upon others. We should learn the live together peacefully

People like me and @AbdiJohnson shoukd be free to live, speak, celebrate and wear whatever we want in Somalia. Yet if sharia laws where to be implemented we would not.

 

[BebsiBolice]

Look at the kafirs countries. You can practice whatever you want, wear whatever you want, identify by whatever you want, criticize whatever you want. You are free as a citizen.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Her Majesty the Queen is my head of state walalo

You see there's where I beg to differ, if you ask me..

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Yeah he commits so many sins. He even flaunts them here

Kkkkk

 

[Inactive]

You see there's where I beg to differ, if you ask me..

If you can bow down to Boqor why can't I at least acknowledge the legitimacy of the Queen of the Commonwealth?