Why i consider Galkacyo the best place to be the Somali Capital?

Bosaso is a Harti city not Kismaayo, I think you MJs need to move on from Kismaayo for your own well being, 12 year MX 12 years OG, it is time to move forward.
We built that city, you have no claim to it. You are guests/refugees.

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Dalalos_ibn_Adali

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when i say attack kismaayo i mean bringing in troops to allow your political leaders to gain a foothold in the city. MX controlling kismaayo is something you'd like right?

not trying to isku dir here but what is the genuine clan demographic of kismaayo? every other somali city out there i have an idea but I'm always hearing different things abut kismaayo and I'm not knowledgeable of the city. i need a non biased person to tell me the reality

I would like to see political solution to Kismaayo, there is not going to be Badbaado Kismaayo we are not moriyaans like you. You forget we are Darood just because we oppose each other politically does not make us savages like you wielding machetes.
 
I would like to see political solution to Kismaayo, there is not going to be Badbaado Kismaayo we are not moriyaans like you. You forget we are Darood just because we oppose each other politically does not make us savages like you wielding machetes.

What's more savage than Huuraale's starving boons who even stole people's cooked food, raped and robbed relentlessly. Your clan has not got dhaqan Daarood or even dhaqan Soomali. You can try to flex in front of HAG all you want, but we have your true tea.
 

Dalalos_ibn_Adali

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What's more savage than Huuraale's starving boons who even stole people's cooked food, raped and robbed relentlessly. Your clan has not got dhaqan Daarood or even dhaqan Soomali. You can try to flex in front of HAG all you want, but we have your true tea.
Victim mentality is truly a sad state of affairs, MX civilians in Ceelgaab were complete wiped out by SSDF on Ethiopian tanks reaching Balanbale and Goldogob, as well as all the MX land inbetween, killing tenth of thousands of MX civilians.

You do not see us cry about it day and night, what did those people do to Abdulahi Yusuf and SSDF? they were innocent unarmed Geeljire in Doolo and Qoraxey.

Even recently Deni armed HG against MX, we mentioned this to you, but we do not cry and engage in self pity.

We do something about it, we get ours back, an eye for an eye. By my calculations you owe us alot of eyes.
 
Victim mentality is truly a sad state of affairs, MX civilians in Ceelgaab were complete wiped out by SSDF on Ethiopian tanks reaching Balanbale and Goldogob, as well as all the MX land inbetween, killing tenth of thousands of MX civilians.

You do not see us cry about it day and night, what did those people do to Abdulahi Yusuf and SSDF? they were innocent unarmed Geeljire in Doolo and Qoraxey.

Even recently Deni armed HG against MX, we mentioned this to you, but we do not cry and engage in self pity.

We do something about it, we get ours back, an eye for an eye. By my calculations you owe us alot of eyes.



There is a difference between warfare and stealing people's food and properties. The fact is that your clan behaved like mooryaan, something that has never happened in 'Daarood' history.

As for what SSDF did to Marehan, that's called 'revenge', well-deserved revenge that. Macsonkor. Unlike your savage clan, they didn't rob, rape or poison like gun gun dhalay.
 

Dalalos_ibn_Adali

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There is a difference between warfare and stealing people's food and properties. The fact is that your clan behaved like mooryaan, something that has never happened in 'Daarood' history.

As for what SSDF did to Marehan, that's called 'revenge', well-deserved revenge that. Macsonkor.

I am not here to defend Hiraale or compete with you in the MeToo victims Olympics, Mareexaan baa ka ahay, I cannot compete with a Zanzibari when it comes to calaacal, May God lend his mercy to those souls who have died unjustly regardless of clan and may God punish the wrong doers.
 
I am not here to defend Hiraale or compete with you in the MeToo victims Olympics, Mareexaan baa ka ahay, I cannot compete with a Zanzibari when it comes to calaacal, May God lend his mercy to those souls who have died unjustly regardless of clan and may God punish the wrong doers.



Calaacal is what your boon elders did about President Deni, calling entire press-conferences because he called Gedo what it is.

In the same video, they asked for an increase in SNA troops, so, again I ask @Prince of HS, with which army will they invade Buale. :mjlol:

 

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Barre hiraale says different. Guy ruled whole of kismaayo for a few years at one point. I said post Amisom and AS, MX will try attack kismaayo. This is a fact.
Nice pivot your learning alot from other users here. Firstly a future prediction is not fact, secondly I didn’t actually hear Barre Hiraale β€œsay differently” so I dont know why your hiding behind a next guys uncle :icon lol:

The point you asserted is β€œThere is a Marehan force currently capable of mobilizing to capture Kismayo” You are yet to supply evidence.
I don’t want the boon to take over kismaayo myself but @Removed is denying history. Barre hiraale and the JVA controlled kismaayo in its entirety for many years. Difference between kismaayo and xamar is that mx militias didn’t come to kismaayo in a friendly β€˜darood’ way and establish themselves before fighting Absame like hg did but everyone knew their intention much before they were anywhere near the city
You have no idea about Southern politics past Mogadishu. Hiraale had Cawlyahan support against MZ, Ogaden wasnt a single group post Gabayow V. Jees until Turki/Madoobe briefly brought Ogaden together till Turkis departure.

Ogaden is not like your Mudulood bringing us in one place is like bringing together Irir Samaale, yet we manage to do it.
 
Nice pivot your learning alot from other users here. Firstly a future prediction is not fact, secondly I didn’t actually hear Barre Hiraale β€œsay differently” so I dont know why your hiding behind a next guys uncle :icon lol:

The point you asserted is β€œThere is a Marehan force currently capable of mobilizing to capture Kismayo” You are yet to supply evidence.

You have no idea about Southern politics past Mogadishu. Hiraale had Cawlyahan support against MZ, Ogaden wasnt a single group post Gabayow V. Jees until Turki/Madoobe briefly brought Ogaden together till Turkis departure.

Ogaden is not like your Mudulood bringing us in one place is like bringing together Irir Samaale, yet we manage to do it.
I haven’t bothered to educate myself in any affairs regarding non Hutus. However what you just explained to me sounds like an L. How were you guys disunited at such a time? Point is whether barre hiraale used you guys against each other or not, it worked because barre hiraale, a MX man, ruled kismaayo for a long time and I always see MX claiming Kismaayo. They will most likely attack the city post AS/KDF. Not something I wish for but it is most likely. They will probably be unsuccessful considering Madoobe arming his clan to the teeth but it is a potential reality to consider. Mind you I’m indifferent or maybe leading towards being on Ogaden side with this matter
 

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Marehan lies have convinced other Somalis that Marehan has anything to do with Kismaayo. That city is none of their damn business, thieving qaxooti that came after 1991 and are still squatting on Government land, bilaa xishood.
We saw it with Farmajo, Hawiyes have their minds under Marexaans fingertips.

I am yet to see a remotely impressive MX force yet somehow he believes in his heart they will cross J/Dhexe defeat AS then march 300KM to defeat thousands of JL forces to then occupy a secondary gobol. This is a testament to their belief in Marexaan.
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I haven’t bothered to educate myself in any affairs regarding non Hutus. However what you just explained to me sounds like an L. How were you guys disunited at such a time? Point is whether barre hiraale used you guys against each other or not, it worked because barre hiraale, a MX man, ruled kismaayo for a long time and I always see MX claiming Kismaayo. They will most likely attack the city post AS/KDF. Not something I wish for but it is most likely. They will probably be unsuccessful considering Madoobe arming his clan to the teeth but it is a potential reality to consider
β€œSounds like an L” Im too old for this conversation :mjcry:

Anyways It worked because they brought Ethiopia(TPLF) in the 90s to dislodge Ogaden Ittihad in Gedo. This gave them the footing and backing to attack Ogaden under the pretense of ittihad being Ogaden rebels against Ethiopia.

Most importantly can you detail me the logistics of Marexaan attacking Kismayo from Baardheere? are they going to use palm trees as catapults :heh:
 
β€œSounds like an L” Im too old for this conversation :mjcry:
Anyways It worked because they brought Ethiopia(TPLF) in the 90s to dislodge Ogaden Ittihad in Gedo. This gave them the footing and backing to attack Ogaden under the pretense of ittihad being Ogaden rebels against Ethiopia.

Most importantly can you detail me the logistics of Marexaan attacking Kismayo from Baardheere? are they going to use palm trees as catapults :heh:
What do you personally think will happen post Shabaab? How will Jubbaland affairs play out?
 
What do you personally think will happen post Shabaab? How will Jubbaland affairs play out?
Quick history here!!
Post shabab jubaland will go back to the 1900s jubaland but with OG gaining control of kismaayo which they lost completely due to the fight with the British outlawing any property or stake in kismaayo for killing their commissioners. Harti started dominating ksimaayo after the british all the way to Italians which all favoured harti over OG due to the many fights OG had with the Europeans. This made it easier for harti to dominate kismaayo until the fall of the government in 91. With the fall of siyaad bare the spm Ogaden conquered kismaayo all the way to afgooyr there was no other power south of xamar. Cumar jees simply ruined everything from wiping out the spm boys in xamar to starting an necessary fight with the harti who were open to being ruled in kismaayo. After what jees did half of the kuumade went against him and he was a rough soldier like ceydid and he destroyed the OG and little harti soldiers left in jubooyinka. That’s when the Belgians took almost 90% of the weapons the militia had including some good weapons from balidogle airfield. After that the two biggest clans of OG went on no working together relationship each kept at buale and afmadow. That’s when the mx and ceyr militia came through and took it from the weak harti militia. From 94 to 2009 there was no United OG from in jubaland. OG became United again in 2009 with madobe macalin mohamed and Gandhi and that’s when shabaab were liberated from kismaayo. 2013 was the first battle a United ogaden had with mrx hawiye giir giir and shabab.


OG have it much easier than mudulood who have lost the complete control of banaadir to hg forces from central somalia. OG will dominate ksimaayo if they stay United if they don’t then it will go back to the buale and afmadow isolation.
 

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Gif-King
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What do you personally think will happen post Shabaab? How will Jubbaland affairs play out?
Cawlyahan/MZ Pres.
Marexaan VP
Ogaden Governors in LJ and MJ
MX Governor of Gedo
Harti Mayorship in Kismayo

Once the political infrastructure is more sound and state presidential powers are weakened we can assess Marexaans position in Jubbaland.

Currently Mx cant be trusted in the rotation because they are in essence Hawiye and JLs presidency controls far too much opposed to Hirshabelle where Guudlaawe has little to do with Hiiraan for example.
sl according to puntitequeen did the civil war start in early 1900s? lol

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The same people who made that map later made a census.
 

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