Why is it so hard to understand af waqooyi

[Mercury]

Walaal, they have so many Arabic loanwords , it's intertwined with their Somali vocabulary so I highly doubt it's authenticity

General Somali	Lahjadda Waqooyi	Foreign Loanwords
Ukun	Baydh	بيض
Nal	Laydh	Light
Feero	Kaawiyad	derives from الكاوية
Qaado	Malqacad	الملعقة
Cusbo	Milix	ملح
Dooro	Digaag	دجاج
Yaanyuur	Bisad	derives from قطة
Gaduud	Casaan	derives from أسمر
Jeer	Waqti	الوقت

And no neither is the Somali spoken in Mudug or Xamar 100% Somali but let's not get political right now

You cant call waqooyi not authentic when the somali in the south got alot of italian words

Bra in italian is reggiseno-reggipetto and Somali rajastiin -Rajabeto

Glasses in italian is occhiali and Somali okayaalo

Ice cream in italian is gelato and in somali its jalaato

Fork in italian is forchetta and in Somali fargetto

Yellow in italian is giallo and in somali jaalo

Bag in italian Borsa and in somali boorso

 

[Mercury]

Btw theres no single waqooyi accent and dialect and it doesn’t just belong to “Isaaq”. The main parts of Somali gableed and Djibouti also speak with the so called waqooyi accent but with slight differences.
Bosaaso and ceerigaabos are similar despite bosaso not being considered as waqooyi. Even Gabliey which is 60km from Hargeisa has more in common with Djibouti and Borama

@Hodan from HR It’s wrong to portray waqooyi dialect as using more Arabic loan words and southern dialect more original it’s actually more complex than that. There’s actually instances where there’s Arabic loan words in southern Somali that aren’t used in north. For example miiyi is more commonly used in the north whereas baadiye in the south with baadiye obviously being a loan word from the Arabic badawi or Bedouin in English. There’s more instances of Arabic loan words in south but not used north but can’t remember at the moment

@Rastavelli-67 You’re reaching with casaan and bisad. Also jeer is used in the north too. “ Had iyo jeer ” “ Imisa jeer”

this map shows what dialect thats commonly spoken in certain regions

 

[Molotoff]

imagine LARPing as a bosian for 3 years? omg this farax is believing his own lies. maybe in another life u'll be an East European

Who in their right mind would larp as another ethnicity fo

You cant call waqooyi not authentic when the somali in the south got alot of italian words

Bra in italian is reggiseno-reggipetto and Somali rajastiin -Rajabeto

Glasses in italian is occhiali and Somali okayaalo

Ice cream in italian is gelato and in somali its jalaato

Fork in italian is forchetta and in Somali fargetto

Yellow in italian is giallo and in somali jaalo

Bag in italian Borsa and in somali boorso

Formaggio in italian is cheese, in somali it is farmaajo.

 

[Amirah]

this map shows what dialect thats commonly spoken in certain regions
View attachment 172134

So basically 4/5th of Somalia speaks waqooyi which has always been my impression. To say waqooyi is not the general af Somali is honestly laughable.

 

[Sloane Ranger]

this map shows what dialect thats commonly spoken in certain regions
View attachment 172134

The map is definitely off.

 

[Ismail99]

Just like there are many variations between the waqooyi the same applies to the konfuur. In terms of more originality its hard to say truthfully because both dialects use foreign loanwords. But interms of intonation I noticed that reer waqooyi pronounce J as Ch. Is that common across the board?

J=CH that's how you pronounce it in Somali

 

[salma saluuni]

One dialect has Italian loan words and the other Arabic. None of which are pure Somali let’s just leave it at that.

 

[Al Muslim]

this map shows what dialect thats commonly spoken in certain regions
View attachment 172134

Highly inaccurate map. It is a broad generalisation to say all the blue areas speak the same and incorrect to say they speak a 'northern' dialect, also Afmadow does not speak Af Maay.

 

[Royalflush]

this map shows what dialect thats commonly spoken in certain regions
View attachment 172134

Your saying reer gedo speaks may may

 

[Ferrari]

Better than the ugly koonfur "nooh" bullshit.

 

[Ferrari]

I understand all Somali accents. I just need to learn af may may

there's this 11/10 raxnwayn chick who owns a xalaal store, everytime I see her I wanna learn her language.

 

[Mercury]

The map is definitely off.

Even if the map is off in my opinion waqooyi is the standard somali if you turn on BBC on the somali radio now have u ever seen reporter saying saaa camal waaye nooh

 

[Hodan from HR]

One dialect has Italian loan words and the other Arabic. None of which are pure Somali let’s just leave it at that.

Exactly.
That is what I was trying to say.
The somali language as a whole has lots of loan words, depending on the region and history of those people. So it doesn't matter which part of Somalia you are from tbh.

People intermarry, trade with their neighbors blah blah and languages evolve.

 

[Factz]

Better than the ugly koonfur "nooh" bullshit.

The two most respected dialects are waqooyi and galbeed since they're both famed for Somali poetry and music but honestly, both dialects are very close the only slight difference is the accent.

 

[Western4Life]

How about the Somali diaspora dialect? Mixing English and Somali words into one like portmanteau?

Booking-ka
TV-ga
Hoover-ka (why wasn't named Vacuum-ka?)
Waan walk garayey

Somali diaspora dialect is like 1/3 non Somali.

The older generation are speaking like this while their kids are just speaking English.

 

[Hodan from HR]

Even if the map is off in my opinion waqooyi is the standard somali if you turn on BBC on the somali radio now have u ever seen reporter saying saaa camal waaye nooh

Not all konfur speak like that uno?


My ayeyo is reer mudug and her af somali is authentic dialect. Yall keep karbashing us for the reer xamari dialect lol

 

[Royalflush]

Not all konfur speak like that uno?


My ayeyo is reer mudug and her af somali is authentic dialect. Yall keep karbashing us for the reer xamari dialect lol

I’m konfur and I never say nooh that’s mostly hawiye and lower jubba who speak like that

 

[salma saluuni]

A lot of ignorance in this thread, there’s many konfuur dialects not just one

 

[reer]

The two most respected dialects are waqooyi and galbeed since they're both famed for Somali poetry and music but honestly, both dialects are very close the only slight difference is the accent.

waqooyi mudug and galbeed are the standard af somali. but mudug dialect sounds more aggressive especially on women.

my classification of af somali accents

waqooyi/galbeed/mudug

reer guri accent/reer waamo accent

central hawiye

xamar accent/general koonfurian hawiye accents

abgaal accent

reer xamar accent

bantu accent

other accents

accents of somalis who border oromos

The confederated peoples are sometimes the tongue of Shahraweello Rabaane

Fiiro gaara: Fadlan qoraalkeen mid cilmiyeesan ha tahaw, meeldhexad biyaamo walba la kal faydhistan.
Si bilaxsan una faneeta oon leen aflagao yama eryo xun xun , hadesku racsnen waxiabe kale fallanqeen karan yama tusi karna kana siin yaraado amaara la siin gub dhufta dareen nafsii yaan law gebisnado leena meystiran ka siin same
Kabindha lag so dhafe jerbo diare waxtiare ka so talsin qadne si jibar baxsan yu u jifye ka ta gudba waxno e istirtirme lam hel karo hasa yeshe xan u qab xerada ne ta filsaanta runi hanta manu rahni karo

Neta kii wax walba oon leen halis koi maas
Xan jeclan hen nan badhigo horudhac ku sabsen arimo bulshada ya habka caafimaade ee dalkeena ya dhibada ba anso badhigo nan talosin ka siino urka tasoo lacag laan ya mid xor ka ah laxjaclaysi ya marwoyin.
Now tell me is there a single Arabic or foreign loanwords in there
Authentic Somali.
I can't say the same for general Somali lfmao
Toos baad uga baranaysaa diinta Macalimiin aqoon sare leh oo la soo xulay.
Waa macalin soomaliya oo akhlaaqad iyo Dabeecad wanaagsan leh.
Macalinkasta Guddi gaara ayaa soo xushay cilmigiisa & Khibradiisa macalinimo.
Heerka qofkastaa joogo ayaa looga bilaabaya.
Waa Macalimiin ku takhasusay qaabka ugu sahlan ee qofka wax loo fahansiiyo.
Macalinkasta waxaa loo taba baray qaabka qoys Islaam ah oo tayo leh loo dhiso, si bulshadeenu gaadho horumar aduun iyo mid aakhiro.
Qalab casriya oo aan ka dhicin macalin ku horfadhiya ayaa wax lagugu barayaa. oo entenet ah

Nafsadu meel lee ka dhex gasha laknsi diga maisku kal son te wan ku wediyee

gashaa not gasha. only writing gasha is a sign you are posting something else.

"koi" stop your drivel. the grammar is not standard somali.

koi

the word koi is af maay. it means kaalay. af somali does not have the oi diphthong. only oy diphthong.

laknsi
mudnyaal

af somali does not have two adjacent consonants with no vowel. either its a typo or not classical somali.

dude posting a different language with different grammar calling it af somali

 

[Ferrari]

The two most respected dialects are waqooyi and galbeed since they're both famed for Somali poetry and music but honestly, both dialects are very close the only slight difference is the accent.

agreed. I think they were once one dialect before all the migration and expansions.