Xiriirland State movement gathers momentum

Yusuf Abdi Ali Rashid

King of Prussia
You are insane. Deni is finished lol. He’s given up on holding 1m1v elections in time for Jan8
Most geniuses were considered insane
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cow

VIP
I believe so too. Very easy nowadays for diaspora to fund macawiisley type movements. Regular shacab getting weapons and kicking out previous maamuls for their own one.

I think it is for the better a bottom up approach is needed. The top down approach taken in the last 30 years has failed.

Culusow is meeting ncc but lets be honest none of those guys in the meeting represent anyone. For example Madoobe only represents ogadeen and no one else. Yer he wears jubbaland shaati. So bottom approach is the future.
 

Hilmaam

Let him cook
VIP
What’s up with the Doomer mentality with regards to the future of Puntland? Deni Is making a comeback, He put Faroole in his place, Helped clear sool, And is reigniting infrastructure development. Only things left for him to do is win re-election, subordinate Asad Diyano and the PSF, Deal with the extortion in Bosaso and its hinterlands, and then oppose the fgs until elections.
Deni is not bad president we will see what happens in next 4 months not sure how 1m1v will happen between now and then and be funded but big up if he does complete it peacefully
 
I think it is for the better a bottom up approach is needed. The top down approach taken in the last 30 years has failed.

Culusow is meeting ncc but lets be honest none of those guys in the meeting represent anyone. For example Madoobe only represents ogadeen and no one else. Yer he wears jubbaland shaati. So bottom approach is the future.
How do you see things changing politically/clan wise when shabaab lose all their territory in Jubbaland?
 

bidenkulaha

GalYare
I think it is for the better a bottom up approach is needed. The top down approach taken in the last 30 years has failed.

Culusow is meeting ncc but lets be honest none of those guys in the meeting represent anyone. For example Madoobe only represents ogadeen and no one else. Yer he wears jubbaland shaati. So bottom approach is the future.
Federalism as currently constructed is a complete failure. Best to cut them down to size as they are too big. More accountable and smaller one’s could work imo
 

cow

VIP
Federalism as currently constructed is a complete failure. Best to cut them down to size as they are too big. More accountable and smaller one’s could work imo

i think last elections and the way the Federal presidents handled it is what destroyed them in the long run. i don't think anyone actually feels any of the MP'S selected represent their deegaan.

i would go further and say none of them with the exception of few have any sway in their deegaan and their own people regard them as stooges.

so a 4.5 MP system where your clan representative is selected by another clan will not work. it will lead to an ineffective government that does not represent the people.
 

Avalanche

Guul iyo Gobanimo
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Federalism as currently constructed is a complete failure. Best to cut them down to size as they are too big. More accountable and smaller one’s could work imo
Would 18 regions becoming federal states be better? or even further like district
 

Abdalla

Medical specialist in diagnosing Majeerteentitis
Prof.Dr.Eng.
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It’s the representation in puntland parliament Leelkase has 2 out of 66 seats. 3% representation when they are bigger than that in puntland. we have more seats and percentage 5/61 seats in fgs which makes up all of somalia. We almost have same seats in puntland and jubbaland 1 v 2. Xiriirland is probably not realistic Leelkase to spread out in puntland and fgs consolodating power. Probably best just to work with fgs and get funding in future as puntland gets more isolated

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You have fever MPs in PL parliament than you do in the National parliament ? acudubilah :jcoleno:

Majeerteen had 19 Seats when 4.5 was established in Arta in early 2000s when Abdiqassim Salad Boy was elected as president. Marehan and Leelkasse complained about their representations during Embagathi conference. Majeerteen gave up 5 seats voluntarily: two went to Marehan and 3 went to Leelkasse. 1 extra seat became rotational between MJ and Arab Salahs.

His comparison doesn’t include the seats he got for free.
 
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Majeerteen had 19 Seats when 4.5 was established in Arta in early 2000s when Abdiqassim Salad Boy was elected as president. Marehan and Leelkasse complained about their representations during Embagathi conference. Majeerteen gave up 5 seats voluntarily: two went to Marehan and 3 went to Leelkasse. 1 extra seat became rotational between MJ and Arab Salahs.

He is comparison doesn’t include the seats you got for free.
4.5 is BS. Ciise have 8 seats and don’t even live in Somalia it was never made to last this long
 

Abdalla

Medical specialist in diagnosing Majeerteentitis
Prof.Dr.Eng.
VIP
4.5 is BS. Ciise have 8 seats and don’t even live in Somalia it was never made to last this long

I was setting up my cuqdad ridden cousin straight. He received seats from his brothers and is still happy.

Ciise have the same seats as Dhulbahante, the same Dhulbahante that took totally disarmed Somaliland.
 

cow

VIP
Majeerteen had 19 Seats when 4.5 was established in Arta in early 2000s when Abdiqassim Salad Boy was elected as president. Marehan and Leelkasse complained about their representations during Embagathi conference. Majeerteen gave up 5 seats voluntarily: two went to Marehan and 3 went to Leelkasse. 1 extra seat became rotational between MJ and Arab Salahs.

He is comparison doesn’t include the seats you got for free.

how did MJ get 19 seats? was their a census done in 2000's arta? in the 2000's marehan controlled the whole of jubbaland from dolow to kismaayo.

so marehan was in a powerful position to support or oppose this arta government.
 

FBIsomalia

True Puntlander
VIP
Puntland supreme court refuse to open door for parliement chair.

Answer is simple, after censes of Leelkase population then your seat will be depend on it.
 

Hilmaam

Let him cook
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Majeerteen had 19 Seats when 4.5 was established in Arta in early 2000s when Abdiqassim Salad Boy was elected as president. Marehan and Leelkasse complained about their representations during Embagathi conference. Majeerteen gave up 5 seats voluntarily: two went to Marehan and 3 went to Leelkasse. 1 extra seat became rotational between MJ and Arab Salahs.

His comparison doesn’t include the seats he got for free.
im pretty sure marehan have more federal seats than yall. Plus back then Mx and Mj was beefing heavy due to jubbaland and reason they joined galmudug. I doubt yall gave anything to anyone. Mj doesnt have that much sway over FGS y'all have 100% sway in puntland and gave leelkase 2 seats yall hungry share seats in puntland
 

Capo Dhoore

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The puntland leadership should listen to the complaints of the leelkase clan. They've been apart of puntland since the beginning and rarely have shown any opposition to it. Giving them a few more mps and a couple A list wasiir positions won't hurt anyone
 
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