26kii January 1991

[El Nino]

HAG making "strategic alliance" with any country to try and prop up their regime. The other countries don't even bother with protocol anymore.



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HAG had the german president saluting us the minute we landed. There is levels to this game some of you haven’t reached and won’t reach.




Your uncle Muuse on the other hand was screaming inside while listening to pagan gibberish in Ethiopia. Didn’t even bother wearing a suit, he dressed just like my father when he goes to play a 5-aside match with the local uncles. This visit was supposed to secure the independence, it only managed to raise Muuses blood pressure and bank account.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

HAG had the german president saluting us the minute we landed. There is levels to this game some of you haven’t reached and won’t reach.




Your uncle Muuse on the other hand was screaming inside while listening to pagan gibberish in Ethiopia. Didn’t even bother wearing a suit, he dressed just like my father when he goes to play a 5-aside match with the local uncles. This visit was supposed to secure the independence, it only managed to raise Muuses blood pressure and bank account.

Anything pre-69 is not HAG, that was Somalia, so don't take credit.

What have you achieved solo? Like all other solo groups you failed spectactuarly because shit don't work like that, but the audience will alway support the underdog so keep trying to make it work.

We will see what you really got in the coming months and years.

 

[El Nino]

Anything pre-69 is not HAG, that was Somalia, so don't take credit.

What have you achieved solo? Like all other solo groups you failed spectactuarly because shit don't work like that, but the audience will alway support the underdog so keep trying to make it work.

We will see what you really got in the coming months and years.

I agree, in order for Somalia/somaliweyn to be successfull, we need to work together otherwise we will not amount to shít. Im glad we agree on this. So when will the dream of independence in SL be forgotten and you guys will come back to the table?

 

[Jungle]

Wtf is "HAG" ?

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

I agree, in order for Somalia/somaliweyn to be successfull, we need to work together otherwise we will not amount to shít. Im glad we agree on this. So when will the dream of independence in SL be forgotten and you guys will come back to the table?

We are about to find out if you even have a table. You can't lead negotiations if you don't have nothing really of your own. So let's what survives these Trump cuts.

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

Golden opportunity to create a HAG/Samaale dynasty

1) Oust the government and take control
2) Clear division of power/responsibilities between the factions and especially between HAG.

HAG was the strongest after Barre fled. Instead of turning the guns towards each other, peace should have been established.

3) Start ruling the country. Continue the alliance with SNM. The 2 biggest urban centers are now under our control. All of Samaales consitute approximately 50-60% of Somalias population. We got the numbers on our side.

4) Confine SSDF and SPM to their land. Strategically limit their influence in national politics.

5) Start the oil drillings. Especially on the coast of Hiiraab. If shidaal is found, this gives us extreme amount of leverage against others.

6) Reverse DEI for HAG for governmental and university positions. Exclusively train HAGs to operate the oil fields, maybe even Irirs. Pick only the brightest non-HAGs to go to university and after graduation give them prefential treatment. Nin baaxan lee dagaal bilaabo. They will be our allies.

7) Buy the loyalty of other clans after shidaal money starts coming. Start oil drilling on their coast aswell (the blocks in sh/hoose and
j/hoose).

8) Govern well and do not fück up. Practically impossible. Continue being a police state. Monitor the population and squash any dissent. Keep up the ban off qabyaalad. In order for everything to succeed, there is no need to be flagrant about the prefential treatment to HAGS/samaales. Keep it classy.

9) Keep the americans at arms lenght. Award the oil contracts to the british. Follow the playbook of GCC countries. Maybe even award them to the asians. Anybody except americans.


10) Profit and watch the money roll in.

11) Delegitimise Kacaan government. Salvage the good they did and throw everything they did under the buss.

12) Brainwash the population. Start at schools. Glorify Ajuraan empire and Imaam Axmed Gurey (AUN). Make sure everybody knows both were Hawiye. Instead of Barres face (AUN) Caydiids face will be plastered all over the country.

13). Invest in the military. No one is going to rebel if they know they will be bombed to ashes. Monopoly of the violence should be firmly in our hands.

14) Start being more generous wit the non-samaales. Announce DEI hiring for them.
…..


The year is 2075. Somalia has ceased to exist. I do not mean the country, but the name. Somalis are now known by as Hawiyes. Darood origin has been retconned to be Samaales 10th son. Kids recite patriotic poems done by Abshir Bacadle every morning at school. Caydiid has been crowned a national hero.

Foreigners, especially muslims are wondering why we have a name associated with hell. The name will reflect our ruthless military who have retaken control of Xarar (started first as a Gidir Karanle city) and rest of the somali galbeed. Awoowe Hawiyes grave near Xarar is back on our hands.

NFD has also been retaken because Ajuraan, Garre and Degodia live there. Ogadens land was converted into a nice national park. We also conquered all of Kenya and just a tiny bit of Tanzania, we needed some lebensraum. Nairobi has been renamed after Caydiid.

All of this could have been possible but we fucked it up, but never say never. We will try again with the help of the turks. Just like Imaam Axmed Gurey and Ajuraan got help from ottomans. As they say, history repeats itself.

That would require adroit minds, erudite human capital, and a cadre of technocrat class none of which there are amongst the said assemblage . What then?

 

[El Nino]

Wtf is "HAG" ?

Acronym for Hawiye action group. The name comes from Somnet.

 

[Jungle]

Acronym for Hawiye action group. The name comes from Somnet.

It doesn't come from there lol just 1 sacad called abdiwahab pushed it hard on somnet it has absolutely nothing to with beesha Hawiye

 

[El Nino]

We are about to find out if you even have a table. You can't lead negotiations if you don't have nothing really of your own. So let's what survives these Trump cuts.

I have been an ardent advocate of cutting ”aid” money to our country. You seem to have deluded yourself to believing that your ”government” sustains itself. You will also find out. Im eager to see the future.

That would require adroit minds, erudite human capital, and a cadre of technocrat class none of which there are amongst the said assemblage . What then?

With the right leadership and cultural change among the people change will happen. You seem to be pessimistic which you shouldn’t be. You should have faith, I fully believe our people will succeed. Nothing is impossible with the help of Allah SWT.

 

[X29]

He certainly didn't think he could win in Xamar and there were plans in place for him to leave before but he tried and failed to negotiate a peaceful end to millitary rule.

My father who was in Xamar as a university student at the time told me that the city was relatively unbothered before fighting arrived at the outskirts of the city. His university classes were only cancelled during the final weeks of Barre's reign and even then the university administration said it was "only a temporary pause" on classes but most people knew that was a joke and yet people didn't leave until the last two or three days when fighting was heaviest and the red Berets and army remnants were exhausted before retreating to Gedo.

However after the army merged with the SNF and it became the de facto armed wing of the kacaan there was a successful counteroffensive from Gedo all the way to Afgooye just a little way outside of Mogadishu however a number of allied soldiers and their officer the infamous "caasho caydiid" defected and thus the SNF was forced to retreat again back to Gedo.

What does your pops say about siyad barre personally does he think he was in over his head and should have stepped down

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

I have been an ardent advocate of cutting ”aid” money to our country. You seem to have deluded yourself to believing that your ”government” sustains itself. You will also find out. Im eager to see the future.



With the right leadership and cultural change among the people change will happen. You seem to be pessimistic which you shouldn’t be. You should have faith, I fully believe our people will succeed. Nothing is impossible with the help of Allah SWT.

You country is a product of aid. Didn't exist before the military aid and other kinds of support. Doesn't take a genius to figure out what happens next but we are here to watch your education.

 

[TheLand]

You country is a product of aid. Didn't exist before the military aid and other kinds of support. Doesn't take a genius to figure out what happens next but we are here to watch your education.

Are you trying to say that there was no government in Xamar after the chimp out and that it was hastily cobbled together through foreign aid and African troops?

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

With the right leadership and cultural change among the people change will happen. You seem to be pessimistic which you shouldn’t be. You should have faith, I fully believe our people will succeed. Nothing is impossible with the help of Allah SWT.

Well, you are satirising a clan hegemony, a bargain imitation of N Korea, a purgatory with 'a3bad', mush kida, ya sa7ib al 3ahr?

 

[Somali Saayid]

So, you hate the man for his murderous slaughter and massacre of your people, but you are agreeable to his acolytes riding his coattails in your presence in full adulation. That is classic 'dayuuth', and 'munaafaq' psyche and behaviour in one 'qawsaar'. Ya gaban, wa ya gada3.

First time I had the displeasure and misfortune of seeing a person possessing both abhorrent traits. As you were.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion that's the point of creating a forum for people to express their opinions.

He also believes that the kacaan committed crimes but that afweyne wasn’t responsible for it. He holds his generals like Tuke and Morgan responsible, and even his wife Khadija but claims the man in charge was innocent. He is a munaafaq weasel and some suspect he is a big cabtooy too so maybe that explains his lack of logic.

More projection from you again, the only person with an acohol problem is you and don't you have bags to be packing before ICE get on your ass? It's ironic you talk about logic when you have failed to properly debate any users on here with any form of proper logic from Removed to itsnotthateasy all noted you are an ignorant man-child who can't hold his own and now you are shaking your ass for another male user on here for brownie points.

Here is pdf with links to humanitarian organizations that help illegal immigrants like you. There is even an alcoholics support group that are catered to darbi bood illegals who are also cabtooys.

https://www.nlpa.ws/assets/docs/resource%20sheet%20for%20immigrants%20.pdf

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion that's the point of creating a forum for people to express their opinions.

It is not an opinion if it defies logic, lacks validity, and is full of contradictions. There is a less flattering term for it, is best kept to oneself, lest embarrass oneself in the company of one's equals and contemporaries.

Mind me not, do continue.

 

[Somali Saayid]

It is not an opinion if it defies logic, lacks validity, and is full of contradictions. There is a less flattering term for it, is best kept to oneself, lest embarrass oneself in the company of one's equals and contemporaries.

Mind me not, do continue.

Opinions are subjective expressions of personal belief, while facts are proven through logic and reasoning are based on evidence and objective analysis. An opinion doesn't need to be based on logic and it doesn't require validity even the most outlandish opinions like for example "Aliens exist on Neptune." has neither logic nor validity yet is still very much an opinion.

Certainly one could conclude what I stated was merely my opinion on the matter and it seems to have upset you and now you and your ilk have resorted to name calling. Likewise don't mind this statment at all and continue on with your charade.