A SOMALI guy in the show "The Sopranos"

Somali is just a social construct. It is not defined by phenotype or genetics. Somali Bantus are Somali.

I thought you were some miskeen faarax hating xalimo feminist, but little did I know you were of the Margaret Sanger persuasion. Abaay, abaay.
Is that your perception of me?!? LOL am not a « « faraax hating xalimo feminist » am just a realist that calls out the BS in our community. Everyone knows that most Somali men these days are saqajaans…. It’s no secret.

Somali is not a social construct; you and I both know this. Am 💯 sure your trolling…. Somali Bantus are Somali nationals but not Somali ethnically.
 
Is that your perception of me?!? LOL am not a « « faraax hating xalimo feminist » am just a realist that calls out the BS in our community. Everyone knows that most Somali men these days are saqajaans…. It’s no secret.

Somali is not a social construct; you and I both know this. Am 💯 sure your trolling…. Somali Bantus are Somali nationals but not Somali ethnically.

Why aren't they Somali? Many Isaaq, Ciise, Samaroon and some Ogaden overtly look Habesha with their light-ish yellow skin and semitized features, but nobody bats an eyelid.

If Aboflah and Ismail Geelle are Somali, it's weird to exclude Somali Bantus. Somali is just a loosely affiliated Somali-speaking peoples that share a culture. No different than Amhara and Oromo.
 
Why aren't they Somali? Many Isaaq, Ciise, Samaroon and some Ogaden overtly look Habesha with their light-ish yellow skin and semitized features, but nobody bats an eyelid.

If Aboflah and Ismail Geelle are Somali, it's weird to exclude Somali Bantus. Somali is just a loosely affiliated Somali-speaking peoples that share a culture. No different than Amhara and Oromo.
Oromo & amhara are related to us to some extent , of course we can look similar to an extent .

They don't hail from the somali ethnic tribe therefore can't be somali by ethnicity or tribe.

However they are somali nationals.
Somali nationals =/= Somali ethnicity
 
Why aren't they Somali? Many Isaaq, Ciise, Samaroon and some Ogaden overtly look Habesha with their light-ish yellow skin and semitized features, but nobody bats an eyelid.

If Aboflah and Ismail Geelle are Somali, it's weird to exclude Somali Bantus. Somali is just a loosely affiliated Somali-speaking peoples that share a culture. No different than Amhara and Oromo.
Lmaooo because some Somalis look Ethiopian that means Somali Bantus can be Somali? What in the false equivalency! Listen, am sure your trolling so I won’t waste my time. You know you sound ridiculous…..
 
Oromo & amhara are related to us to some extent , of course we can look similar to an extent .

They don't hail from the somali ethnic tribe therefore can't be somali by ethnicity or tribe.

However they are somali nationals.
Somali nationals =/= Somali ethnicity


Oromo and Amhara are an amalgamation of people of different origins but form singular ethnic groups centred around language and culture. That's why they have widely ranging phenotypes. Somalis are no different.

Lmaooo because some Somalis look Ethiopian that means Somali Bantus can be Somali? What in the false equivalency! Listen, am sure your trolling so I won’t waste my time. You know you sound ridiculous…..


If I share an ethnicity with these rebranded Habeshas, I share an ethnicity with these beesha Madowweyne.

Somali:
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Oromo and Amhara are an amalgamation of people of different origins but form a singular ethnic group centred around language and culture. That's why they have widely ranging phenotypes. Somalis are no different.




If I share an ethnicity with these rebranded Habeshas, I share an ethnicity with these beesha Madowweyne.

Somali:
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Not Somali :comeon:

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Somali Bantus will never share any links ethnically and that’s a fact. The Somali Djiboutian that you showed looks Somali to me.
 
Oromo and Amhara are an amalgamation of people of different origins but form a singular ethnic group centred around language and culture. That's why they have widely ranging phenotypes. Somalis are no different.




If I share an ethnicity with these rebranded Habeshas, I share an ethnicity with these beesha Madowweyne.

Somali:
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Not Somali :comeon:

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The point flew right over your head .
Oromo/afar/saho/beja are cushetics like us .

Somali is an own ethnicity our nation is named after our people/tribe/ethnicity
& Somali bantu aren't descendants of Somalis or cushites. It's in their name bantu lol so they can only be Somali nationality wise.

For example Djibouti isn't a tribe or ethnicity so you can only be Djiboutian nationality wise.
 
"Since Ibn Battuta was a real scholar of Islam religion and law now, he was made a welcomed guest of the local officials. This feasting and meeting of important people continued for about a week before the ship continued southward to Zanj and then Mombasa. They continued on to the islands of Pemba and Zanzibar, and finally arrived at Kilwa - today part of Tanzania."


Even Ibn Batuta was very clear that between Mogadishu and Mombaza was the land of Zanj (Bantu people).

Sorry but you're sharing your limiting knowledge here. Facts and historical documents contradict anything that you and many others run with.

Fyi, Ibn Batuta (May Allah (swt) have mercy on him) traveled this land between 1328 - 1330. That is almost 900 years ago that he described the Zanj people occupying between Mogadishu and Mombasa.

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Arab geographer? I don't mean to be insulting but you are outright lying if you claim that Shungwaya has been written about by any Arab geographers. Shungwaya is not found anywhere in any historical document outside of the 19th century like the 19th century Swahili one which, yes, has been debunked and found to be fraudulent by scholars. Look at the links I shared. Neville Chittick who used to be a proponent of its authenticity eventually disavowed it too:




And you truly don't know what you're talking about if you think Bantus predate Cushitic pastoralists in even Kenya let alone Koonfur.



A chime in from my friend who saw this thread from elsewhere:



Sorry to say, saaxiib. But Bantu folks are not native to Koonfur, nor do they predate non-North-Somali speaking Somaloid groups in the area, pastoralist or otherwise.
 
The point flew right over your head .
Oromo/afar/saho/beja are cushetics like us .

Somali is an own ethnicity our nation is named after our people/tribe/ethnicity
& Somali bantu aren't descendants of Somalis or cushites. It's in their name bantu lol so they can only be Somali nationality wise.

For example Djibouti isn't a tribe or ethnicity so you can only be Djiboutian nationality wise.

No, you missed the point. Somali homogeneity is a myth. You cannot unironically believe Abgaal from Lower Jubba are identical to Isaaq from Hawd. They look extremely different.

You can have vastly different origins and belong to the same ethnic groups. For example the minority of Oromos with Omotic roots and the heavily Semitized Habesha-identifying Oromos from north-Shewa. They belong to the same ethnic group. Likewise our Bosniak @Molotoff is probably vaccine-lover Djokovic's 2nd cousin, but are two different ethnic groups despite sharing an ancestry. Ethnicity is loose and malleable, it's social construct in every sense of the word.

#Free my Madowweyne bruddas. Let them in or kick these Djibouti midgets out now
 
No, you missed the point. Somali homogeneity is a myth. You cannot unironically believe Abgaal from Lower Jubba are identical to Isaaq from Hawd. They look extremely different.

You can have vastly different origins and belong to the same ethnic groups. For example the minority of Oromos with Omotic roots and the heavily Semitized Habesha-identifying Oromos from north-Shewa. They belong to the same ethnic group. Likewise our Bosniak @Molotoff is probably vaccine-lover Djokovic's 2nd cousin, but are two different ethnic groups despite sharing an ancestry. Ethnicity is loose and malleable, it's social construct in every sense of the word.

#Free my Madowweyne bruddas. Let them in or kick these Djibouti midgets out now
You saying ethnicity is a social construct then mentioning clans who are literally a social construct :mjlol:

Somalis are fairly a homogeneous group with majority having ev32 haplogroup if Somalis arent homogeneous then who is ?
 
You saying ethnicity is a social construct then mentioning clans who are literally a social construct :mjlol:

Somalis are fairly a homogeneous group with majority having ev32 haplogroup if Somalis arent homogeneous then who is ?

Warya, your father is not a social construct, nor is his father before him. It is a biological reality. Ceeb. We are not French. Clan denotes lineage. Clan is family. Unlike Somali, clan is real.
 
You saying ethnicity is a social construct then mentioning clans who are literally a social construct :mjlol:

Somalis are fairly a homogeneous group with majority having ev32 haplogroup if Somalis arent homogeneous then who is ?

Somalis are heteregeous group. The homogeneous claim can't stand up to scrutiny.
 
Warya, your father is not a social construct, nor is his father before him. It is a biological reality. Ceeb. We are not French. Clan denotes lineage. Clan is family. Unlike Somali, clan is real.
Sheegato's debunked it .
Do you know the difference between ethnicity, tribe & clans?
 
Sheegato's debunked it .
Do you know the difference between ethnicity, tribe & clans?

Do you know what ethnicity is?
An ethnic group or an ethnicity is a grouping of people who identify with each other on the basis of shared attributes that distinguish them from other groups. Those attributes can include common sets of traditions, ancestry, language, history, society, culture, nation, religion, or social treatment within their residing area.

My final ultimate offer, kick those Dj*boutians and pseudo-habeshas out or let my brethren of Bantu persuasion in.
:rejoice:

I didn't want to do anyone dirty, but not everyone's lineage is equal. I myself am a true laandheere. Out of politeness, I take other people's claims at face value.

"Noooo we wuz cushite n sheit Ethiopians are our brothers. Sheikh Darood is not real!!!"

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Do you know what ethnicity is?


My final ultimate offer, kick those Dj*boutians and pseudo-habeshas out or let my brethren of Bantu persuasion in.
:rejoice:

I didn't want to do anyone dirty, but not everyone's lineage is equal. I myself am a true laandheere. Out of politeness, I take other people's claims at face value.

"Noooo we wuz cushite n sheit Ethiopians are our brothers. Sheikh Darood is not real!!!"

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As a Djiboutian that will never happen! FU and your bantu brothers! There’s no Somali Bantus in the North nor in Djibouti! Keeep dreaming…..
Are you those Hutuwayie that’s people talk about? Is that your landhere lineage?!? Either way I don’t care about qabil since it doesn’t do anything for me but your pseudo landernimo is funny to me 🤣
 

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