Or better example would be the story of Suleyman aleyhis salam. See if he starts contradicting and talks about laws of physics because atheist said so.
Humans all over the world have stories of giants.
| Habbad ina Kamas (Giant) | Habbad ina Kamas was a legendary cruel giant who ruled half of ancient Somalia. Habbad oppressive rule was the complete opposite to the kindness and care that was bestowed upon the other half of the land ruled by the giant Biriir ina Barqo. He was eventually defeated and slain in battle by Biriir, when the latter found out about Habbad's tyranny. |
| Biriir ina Barqo (Giant) | Biriir ina Barqo was a legendary heroic giant in ancient Somalia known for his just rule and kindness. He lived in a cave called Shimbiraale (the cave of birds) and used to wear a heavy ring that no man could lift. He answered the pleas of those suffering under the rule of the giant called Habbad and defeated him in battle. He then united the two lands and ushered in a long period of peace. |
I am not making that argument, I am not gaal.
I haven't read or listened to anything an atheist had to say. These questions have come to me organically. I am not going to believe dumb ass atheists, chill out.
I agree only the Quran is infallible but where I disagree is altering the Hadith’s if it “makes the prophet look bad”
So if multiple sahabah including Aisha r.a herself say one thing we should throw it out because why? The gaalo don’t like it
I get what you are saying but we are still capable of intellectual thoughts ourselves. The age is A CONTENTION, but people double down and take it at face value because they make the mistake of thinking that hadiths are just as infallible as the Quran when this couldn't be further from the truth.
What do gaals have to do with this? What if some of these hadiths simply don't convince some of us Muslims? What then?
Your right their is no guarantee answer for her age. I said that in the link of the thread that i sent you.
Convince you of what tho? The hadith is mutawatir (a bit debatable but is at the very least close to it) and coming from Aisha r.a herself
I think we are in agreement.
The thing is, normally you have more than one narration of the same hadith, and a lot of times these narrations are different. Sometimes, they give us the big picture but in different ways. Sometimes they straight up conflict and Bukhari himself or other authors have to commentate and tell us how they'd reconcile these conflicting narrations of the same story. Sometimes the author, let's say Bukhari straight up picks one narration over another. So it's not as easy Aisha said this when someone else also narrates the same story but completely differently. Which narration do you accept?
Weak hadiths or hadiths which have been narrated by liars has never been something muslims hide away.
Bukhari isn’t the only complier of hadith tho, there are hundreds of books of hadiths. If there was another strong tradition stating otherwise it would’ve been reported. Don’t you think if there was another narration there would be some disputes about her age? No one has disagreed with the age of Aisha r.a till about the 18th century.
This is similar to Quranist beliefs. Hadeeth is very important to understanding Quran, saheeh hadeeth cannot be ignored simply because they don't fit our modern scientific knowledge.
Quranists are a weird bunch because much of our deen comes from hadiths.
Past generations had a longer life span and there were also many Adams not just one. The human family had to restart many a times.
