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Arma

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How can Puntland attract SSC clans? They have a bigger representation in Puntland than in Somaliland and they get the top cabinet positions. How can you explain this irrational behaviour of SSC?

Let me answer that for ya. Two reasons why:

Cuqdad for anything and everything MJ, and inferiority complex they have for MJ. That simple, no other way about it.
 

Abdalla

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The report was literally comparing results from previous years.. a statistical pattern. They are trying to dismiss a report by reputable economists of the World Bank with "what company does your tribe own"...

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Company? They want to know whether we have famous hawalas :liberaltears:
 

Zero

Somaliland patriot
How can Puntland attract SSC clans? They have a bigger representation in Puntland than in Somaliland and they get the top cabinet positions. How can you explain this irrational behaviour of SSC?
Let me answer that for ya. Two reasons why:

Cuqdad for anything and everything MJ, and inferiority complex they have for MJ. That simple, no other way about it.
Wrong.Its all about money.Plain and simple.

1.Puntland doesn't have any major companies nor small businesses to generate revenue and create jobs.

2.The Puntland goverment doesn't collect tax because of point nr.1 and struggles to pay off their soldiers,civil servants and SSC clan elders.

3.Puntland has an extremely underdeveloped market economy which makes their emphasis on formal education were focus is put on academics and trade skills completely useless because there are no jobs for the graduates and they don't have the funds to set up businesses themselves.

4.Many graduates become civil servants that burden the goverments small pockets and force it to print counterfeit money.

5.Because technical skills and training skilled labor gets neglected many projects that Puntland starts never finish or see the light of day.


Its not irrational behaviour when you consider that a huge amount of soldiers in the Somaliland army come from SSC and the Somaliland goverment pays them all on time.They also pay for the clan elders and the civil servants.
Though Somaliland is still a bit cautious to start any big projects in the SSC region.But for the people there Somaliland is a more reliable partner than Puntland with its shaky foundation.
 
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Abdalla

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Wrong.Its all about money.Plain and simple.

1.Puntland doesn't have any major companies nor small businesses to generate revenue and create jobs.

2.The Puntland goverment doesn't collect tax because of point nr.1 and struggles to pay off their soldiers,civil servants and SSC clan elders.

3.Puntland has an extremely underdeveloped market economy which makes their emphasis on formal education were focus is put on academics and trade skills completely useless because there are no jobs for the graduates and they don't have the funds to set up businesses themselves.

4.Many graduates become civil servants that burden the goverments small pockets and force it to print counterfeit money.

5.Because technical skills and training skilled labor gets neglected many projects that Puntland starts never finish or see the light of day.


Its not irrational behaviour when you consider that a huge amount of soldiers in the Somaliland army come from SSC and the Somaliland goverment pays them all on time.They also pay for the clan elders and the civil servants.
Though Somaliland is still a bit cautious to start any big projects in the SSC region.But for the people there Somaliland is a more reliable partner than Puntland with its shaky foundation.

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Wrong.Its all about money.Plain and simple.

1.Puntland doesn't have any major companies nor small businesses to generate revenue and create jobs.

2.The Puntland goverment doesn't collect tax because of point nr.1 and struggles to pay off their soldiers,civil servants and SSC clan elders.

3.Puntland has an extremely underdeveloped market economy which makes their emphasis on formal education were focus is put on academics and trade skills completely useless because there are no jobs for the graduates and they don't have the funds to set up businesses themselves.

4.Many graduates become civil servants that burden the goverments small pockets and force it to print counterfeit money.

5.Because technical skills and training skilled labor gets neglected many projects that Puntland starts never finish or see the light of day.


Its not irrational behaviour when you consider that a huge amount of soldiers in the Somaliland army come from SSC and the Somaliland goverment pays them all on time.They also pay for the clan elders and the civil servants.
Though Somaliland is still a bit cautious to start any big projects in the SSC region.But for the people there Somaliland is a more reliable partner than Puntland with its shaky foundation.
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Cotton Eyed Joe

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How can Puntland attract SSC clans? They have a bigger representation in Puntland than in Somaliland and they get the top cabinet positions. How can you explain this irrational behaviour of SSC?
Sool and Sanaag are the poorest and most neglected regions in the north. Puntland can attract them by creating schools, hospitals and jobs. These are not things Puntland can do for a particular region now however Puntland can make sure that all the regions are economically tied by creating infrastructure that links it all. Garowe should be linked to all parts of Puntland.

Schools and universities should be accessible to every part of the region. Airports in Garowe and Bosaso should have roads to the Sool and Sanaag since they are much closer than Hargaysa and that's what's happening in Bosaso but it needs to happen in Sool. There needs to be a economical integration.

Some tribes in SSC would rather be dominated by other tribes than their cousin. Why is this? It can be for many reasons. One is that if you can't be politically independent you must find a patron. Therefore some tribes have chosen to be patrons of Somaliland rather than Puntland because they believe they will get a bigger say there.

Another reason is because SSC tribes have historically been on the opposite end from Puntland's dominant tribe, politically speaking. SSC is also a very divided region and hate each other more than anyone else.

All of these concerns can be tackled and reduced by economic development rather than tribal appeal.
 
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No, they are isolated in the mountains. These groups are used by the Puntland administration for funding to equip our armed forces and hone the skills of our intelligence force. They are not a threat to Puntland, they are used as a prop. In post 9/11 to gain the favor and funding of these United States you must go with that narrative that you are fighting the global war on terror. It's a lazy cop out and stains the image of the nation of sand and sea.

WTf dude!

That’s a secret man. Shhhhhh
 

Cotton Eyed Joe

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Who would you say has been Puntlands greatest President?
Abdullahi Yusuf did well to hold Puntland against the forces of Mordor when they tried to use Khalif Galaydh and Jamac Ali Jamac to destroy the nascent state however given his temperament, given his calm and casual demeanour, given what little he had to work with and had to supply the TFG led under Marxuum Colonel Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed, I think Cadde Muuse in retrospect did very good compared to the rest. For me it's not so much about development but about stability. Those were some of the turbulent times with the rise of the ICU/al Shabab but Cadde Muuse did a good job and provided stability against the odds. Most of Puntland's seasoned fighters were in Xamar, we worked with the bare minimum of resources and came out in one piece.
 

Thegoodshepherd

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Should Puntland continue to create new districts or should it focus on thos pre 1991? Is it better to have everyone in a few cities or many small towns?
 

Zero

Somaliland patriot
Sool and Sanaag are the poorest and most neglected regions in the north. Puntland can attract them by creating schools, hospitals and jobs. These are not things Puntland can do for a particular region now however Puntland can make sure that all the regions are economically tied by creating infrastructure that links it all. Garowe should be linked to all parts of Puntland.
Puntland doesn't have any major companies nor small businesses to generate revenue and create jobs.The Puntland goverment doesn't collect tax and struggles to pay off their soldiers,civil servants and SSC clan elders.
How can they fund schools, hospitals and create jobs in SSC when they can't do it within PL self?
Schools and universities should be accessible to every part of the region. Airports in Garowe and Bosaso should have roads to the Sool and Sanaag since they are much closer than Hargaysa and that's what's happening in Bosaso but it needs to happen in Sool. There needs to be a economical integration.
Now that you mention those EU funded road projects in PL,didn't those projects all somehow fail to meet any standards in the last 4 years?
2016 source:https://www.garoweonline.com/en/new...s-eu-funded-road-project-marred-by-corruption
The project was considered the second biggest project to be implemented in PL in the past 25 years and reported to cost 6 million,sponsored by the EU through Germany based organisation,GIZ.

To attempt the same in Sool and Sanaag will not cost 6 million and the EU is now cautious about there future investments in PL.So were is the money going to come from?
Some tribes in SSC would rather be dominated by other tribes than their cousin. Why is this? It can be for many reasons. One is that if you can't be politically independent you must find a patron. Therefore some tribes have chosen to be patrons of Somaliland rather than Puntland because they believe they will get a bigger say there. Another reason is because SSC tribes have historically been on the opposite end from Puntland's dominant tribe, politically speaking. SSC is also a very divided region and hate each other more than anyone else.
Wrong.Its all about money.Plain and simple.
Money talks and bullshit walks.

In the eyes of the people from SSC Puntland is an unreliable partner and has a shaky foundation.While the Somaliland goverment employs a lot of their young men in the national army,give their young women civil servant jobs and pay the clan elders.The SL goverment doesn't miss a single month of payment while Puntland can't even pay for its militia.
All of these concerns can be tackled and reduced by economic development rather than tribal appeal.
Economic development which Puntland isn't even capable of jump starting within its own capital city.The reason the PL goverment fights so hard for SSC is because they believe there is oil there that can safe them.

Its not SSC that needs PL as much as PL needs SCC.Because oil is the only thing that can jump start Puntlands economy which lacks both major companies and small startup businesses.
 
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Crow

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Puntland doesn't have any major companies nor small businesses to generate revenue and create jobs.The Puntland goverment doesn't collect tax and struggles to pay off their soldiers,civil servants and SSC clan elders.
How can they fund schools, hospitals and create jobs in SSC when they can't do it within PL self?

Now that you mention those EU funded road projects in PL,didn't those projects all somehow fail to meet any standards in the last 4 years?
2016 source:https://www.garoweonline.com/en/new...s-eu-funded-road-project-marred-by-corruption
The project was considered the second biggest project to be implemented in PL in the past 25 years and reported to cost 6 million,sponsored by the EU through Germany based organisation,GIZ.

To attempt the same in Sool and Sanaag will not cost 6 million and the EU is now cautious about there future investments in PL.So were is the money going to come from?

Wrong.Its all about money.Plain and simple.
Money talks and bullshit walks.

In the eyes of the people from SSC Puntland is an unreliable partner and has a shaky foundation.While the Somaliland goverment employs a lot of their young men in the national army,give their young women civil servant jobs and pay the clan elders.The SL goverment doesn't miss a single month of payment while Puntland can't even pay for its militia.

Economic development which Puntland isn't even capable of jump starting within its own capital city.The reason the PL goverment fights so hard for SSC is because they believe there is oil there that can safe them.

Its not SSC that needs PL as much as PL needs SCC.Because oil is the only thing that can jump start Puntlands economy which lacks both major companies and small startup businesses.
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A lot of delusional people in here I can tell none of you have even been back to the motherland , you disregard real events somehow in your quest to continue the lies you guys spew daily . Puntland doesn't have a city like Hargeisa or Mogadishu and that's for a reason, Puntland is very undeveloped and unpopulated. Hargeisa alone has almost the same population as Puntland . That's why they're always trying to claim Sool and Sanaag they think claiming more land makes them more legitimate when they can't even develope any of their tuulo's. No legit airports . No real hospitals. No respectable schools and the real reason is because Puntland is a cesspool of corruption. The government collaborated with pirates. Now they collaborate with Al Shabab and ISIS probably to train footsoldiers and send them back South to keep Mogadishu unstable. MJ's have the most to lose if Mogadishu becomes peaceful then they will be forced to show their hand so everyone can see if they're ready to bow to Mogadishu again or if they like their separate powers and try to secede.
 
Should the PL gov consider state owned enterprises to kick start small or non existing industrys such as fishing, manufacturing, postal, public transport?
 

Cotton Eyed Joe

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Should Puntland continue to create new districts or should it focus on thos pre 1991? Is it better to have everyone in a few cities or many small towns?
Puntland should create its own districts which best suits itself. There has been substantial population migrations since 1991 to Puntland and there needs to be a better representation on the ground.

Urbanization is the best route so we can decrease the strain on our environmental resources. It has been happening rapidly so we need to adequately tackle this issue with sustainable urban planning.
 

wawenka

Guul Ama Geeri
A lot of delusional people in here I can tell none of you have even been back to the motherland , you disregard real events somehow in your quest to continue the lies you guys spew daily . Puntland doesn't have a city like Hargeisa or Mogadishu and that's for a reason, Puntland is very undeveloped and unpopulated. Hargeisa alone has almost the same population as Puntland . That's why they're always trying to claim Sool and Sanaag they think claiming more land makes them more legitimate when they can't even develope any of their tuulo's. No legit airports . No real hospitals. No respectable schools and the real reason is because Puntland is a cesspool of corruption. The government collaborated with pirates. Now they collaborate with Al Shabab and ISIS probably to train footsoldiers and send them back South to keep Mogadishu unstable. MJ's have the most to lose if Mogadishu becomes peaceful then they will be forced to show their hand so everyone can see if they're ready to bow to Mogadishu again or if they like their separate powers and try to secede.
”Hargeisa alone has almost the same population as puntland” yo my man are you a crackhead? @DalJecel @Jim Crow @Cotton Eyed Joe @Farm Equipment @Thegoodshepherd @Armadillo @Puntlandtheglorious
 

Cotton Eyed Joe

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Should the PL gov consider state owned enterprises to kick start small or non existing industrys such as fishing, manufacturing, postal, public transport?
Yes I can not state this enough. We need partnerships in Puntland, 51% public and 49% private or vice versa. This can be done if they issue bonds to the diaspora but our leadership has not been the most innovative thinking.
 
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