Beautuful Somali bantu & Lamagoodle couple Allahumabarik
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GaradShabeel
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It's not automatic. As I said, those confederation of clans mostly identify with the town/area they hail from. And not Banaadiri. That's like saying people who live in the Jubba area, outside of identifying with their clans, per automatic identify as Jubbas or a similar identity.
No, that's not what I meant. The concept in which people identifying with Banaadir as a common identity, especially being limited to those you include as 'Banaadiri' (Gibil cad + madow), is mostly recent. Not just recent, very few people use it today. Maybe thought about why it is that way? lol.
Somali isn't a newfound identity and it can't even be compared to your made up identity. Unlike your people, I shared (and still) share everything that signify a common ethnic identity per definition.
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I've seen that , no tribe names mentioned nor is there tribal mixture mentioned, saying reer xamar only doesn't give any informationYou don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
The Reer Xamar are a substantially mixed population?
A while back I encountered a young man of Reer Xamar origins (the "X" is pronounced like this ) on both sides (paternal & maternal) who'd...anthromadness.blogspot.com
Not comparable, it is automatic, them being from a banadiri town makes them banadiri, you can't compare it to jubba when it's not an identity that's used or an old geographical name. Banaadiri is like Bajuni, the Bajunis are from bajuni coast and bajuni archipelagos, they have tribes and towns that they belong to and by identifying by their tribe they're automatically bajuni. Same case for Swahili
It's not limited , there's nobody else that's banadiri. Not recent either , it's been used ever since banadir was a thing, you don't decide if few people use it. It's used by the majority from allover banaadir.
Yes it is, Italians influenced it and introduced the national "Somali" identity
The Bantu Expansion never stopped...
Beautiful couple, I'm guessing the kids look so ethnically Somali because their father has a substantial amount of Somali DNA. The Somali Bantus must be respected, they contribute more to Somalia than a lot of...other people.
The members on this website will always tend to be worse than Somalis IRL with their racism/xenophobia/discrimination (whatever one may call it). These people all tend to be inbred weirdos from certain clans that can't understand the diversity and peaceful co-existence that has always existed in the south. All they know is their dusty tuulos where everyone is a third cousin (yet the saveges still kill each other lol).
You canβt be for real Richard Burton who went to Somalia literally called the Somali
Peoplesβ¦β¦..drum rollβ¦..Somali and thatβs more than 30 years before cadaans even colonized Somalia. 1850s, we called ourselves Somalis and told foriegners we were Somali. Burton mixed with Various tribes and even mentiones the Hawiyes as well despite mostly being limited to the North. He met the Isaaqs, The Dirs, the Daroods, The Hawiye and some Sheekhaals. All of those people were called βSomaliβ by him and we werenβt even a nation then!
Burtonβs book First footsteps into East Africa gives us an in deep understanding of 1800s Somalis. Theyβre called Somalis throughout and he describes the Somali peoples as being one ethnic group.
Youβre lying young man. Anyone that has read this book knows that the concept of βSomalisβ existed well before colonization.
You canβt dispute this. Burtons books are easily accessible. Read before chatting absolute nonsense. If it didnβt exist Burton would have resorted to calling Somalis only by their clan name, but he didnβt, he said SOMALIS!
If you atleast had some sort of basic comprehension you'd realize that I said national "Somali" identity.
Richard Burton didn't travel allover what is now modern day Somalia so why mention him?
Digil & Mirifle , the majority of southern interior weren't referring to themselves as Somali up until colonization, nor were the jΓ reer tribes from beginning of wabi shabelle to the end referring to themselves as somali.
Obviously Italians didn't come with "Somali" from out of thin air, but they had influence on the national "Somali" identity, they labelled the areas they colonized as Italian somaliland which was the first step then when independence was gained , it became Somalia which was taken from somaliland, if it weren't for Italians ,the name Somalia wouldn't have come about, and with that all the inhabitants of modern day somalia become "Somali" nationals.
That mans father or uncle was burned alive due to this marriage. No need to bring qabyaalad here sxb.
No one is talking about a national identity, Somalia become Somalia in 1960. During colonization we were British Somaliland, French Somaliland and Italian.
Youβre trying to change the goal post. No one is talking about a national identity but an ethnic one. Whenever weβve debated we were always talking about a ethnic identity I find it incredibly dishonest that youβll try and change your stance.
It shows that youβre wrong and ignorant but canβt even admit when youβre wrong
I mention him since he mentioned all the main major Somali tribes. Weβre talking about the Somali ethnic group which you tried to suggest didnβt exist before colonization. You even suggested that Isaaqs werenβt seen as Samaale when Burton spent time with them and they introduced themselves as Somalis! At the time they were at war with the Dir Isaa and they too were called Somali. They never saw the Dir Issa who are now part of Djibouti as Foreigners but as Somalis whom they were warring due to tribal issues. Read the book and youβll see how much our historical ancestors believed in a Somali identity and its all documented so that Jahils like you have no way to spout your nonsense.
Digil and Mirifle arenβt the majority in the South and are no where near the majority. Youβre a liar to suggest that and guess what DNA testing shows theyβre not that different to Af Maxaa Somalis which shows we have the same origins
Iβm not talking about National identity. Iβm talking about ethnic identity which is a lot older and important than that. Ogaden isnβt part of Somalia the Issas are not part of Somalia yet for centuries they were called Somali and that is what Iβm talking about
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If Somali was a national identity then I wouldn't be Somali ig. And so wouldn't like 14 milllion somalis in Somaliweyn.
Somali national identity means nothing to me compared to that of an ethnic one. An Issa who is all the way North is more of a kin to a Hawiye than a Somali Bantu and Banadiri. Blood and common origin and heritage will always trump man made borders created by Western colonialists.
Khaem
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How did a woman burn a whole man. Was it a group of Somalis who burned the bantus? Like those lynchings in US?
I don't remember exactly how, but the mother of the wife went to the father of the husband while threatening him of he accepted the marriage of his son. I believe the father was curyaan, and but he refused and somehow the mother managed to burn where he was. It was in farmaajos period i think
GaradShabeel
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Bajuunis are very different from 'Banaadiris', not even comparable in the slightest. While they also have different foreign backgrounds, I don't know if they view themselves as an ethnic group, but they have a distinct cultural group and share more things in common with one another under the banner Bajuunis, than 'Banaadiris'. They speak the same language, which your people can't relate, among other things.
As I said before, very few people go by Banaadiri while all Bajuunis identify themselves Bajunnis. And it's by design for a reason. A more relevant comparison would be Bajuuni vis a vis Barawaani.
How is not limited? Again, why isn't all people inhabiting the Banaadiri area referred to as 'Banaadiri'? Especially considering how it's not an ethnic group, but rather supposedly a regional identity?
Kulaha you don't decide who use it kkk. While implying that it's exclusively decided by your people. Ironically, over the years, different people have been included into your confederacy and thus become Banaadiri while others who had nothing to do with your confederations can't use it, lol. Despite ethnic Somalis having presence in the area upward of a millennium. Make it make sense.
Just the term Banaadir have been used to define different geographical areas over the years. But you're not ready to comprehend this fact. You were the same person who said the Somali ethnicity doesn't exist, only territory (Somalia) with the same name, and thus anyone from there will be called Somali. Why doesn't the same apply to the Banaadiri region?
When did I talk about a national identity? Somali ethnicity =/= Somali nationality.
An ethnicity can exist without its national identity (such as Somalis in Kenya and Ethiopia), meanwhile the Somali national identity can't exist without its ethnic majority group (such as ethnic Somalis in Somalia).
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You think you are so enlightened, yet you are on here, insulting Somali clans and regions, for having a different opinion to you. You are also the person who minimised ethnic cleansing in LaasCaanood, let me guess? Is it because they are not from "diverse and peaceful South". The same South Somalia, that also has clan violence, qabiilism and so forth. In fact, isn't it South Somalia, where a Bantu man was burnt alive, because his nephew married a Somali girl.
North, South, East, West- Somalis are Somalis and the same issues are everywhere. The South doesn't have a monopoly on civility, not by a long shot. In fact, it's where people are most unstable and the miskeens from the South, live in IDP camps in the North- the same North, that you wish to paint as savage.
If you want to pose as a Nationalist, do a better job at it.
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Most Somalis literally hail from one MAN, who lived approximately 3000 years ago.
There are very few ethnic groups on earth that have this much homogeneity in terms of heritage. The only 'outliers' in Somalia are people who hail from Arabs, Bantus, Oromos, and of course, your people; MINORITIES.
The only reason why you wish to act as if Somalinimo isn't real, is because you are a Somali national, not a Somali ethnic, "Misery loves company".
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