Do men or women have life easier (in the western world)

[Chase]

am I wrong?

Nah, you're right, I wasn't expecting that laugh, you just caught me off guard

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

Most cultures tend to have higher standards for women. We’re policed more, monitored more and this starts from a very young age. Also, it’s harder for a girl to get into the wrong crowd as girls don’t have as much freedom as boys. A young girl isn’t going to be allowed to go out with mates as much or stay out longer, thus lessening the exposure to degeneracy. Also, most cultures have a ‘boys will be boys’ attitudes to men’s mistakes whilst women are told that the family’s honor is in their hands. A girl messing up will impact everyone, from the father to the mother and to the brother. Also, young girls are given responsibilities at a younger age as families tell them that they’re going to wives someday, hence they need to learn how to cook, clean and help with younger sibling.

'Cos ladies are [the] cradle round which family fabric is framed, and where they go rogue, so does that culture. Besides, it used to be easier for boys to recover from adventures and mistakes, but it is harder for girls.

Allowing boys to be responsibility free is damaging us and that is what is happening with Western Somalis.

Absolutely agree..

 

[Angelina]

I've been saying this for a long time, I also don't think alot of women on this forum understand how hard it is for men to be "good men" when our entire lives we've been trained to be like animals who can do what we like, theres a natural component to boys being naughty then theres societies programming and set up which makes it much easier for men to become degenerate,

I’ve been saying it for a long time here, but I’m constantly told it’s a ‘feminist’ argument despite the fact that real life and the data shows this.

The things is, many silly men like the freedoms it comes with it, without realizing the immense damage it is doing to young boys.

As much as I dislike Tate and think he’s deeply immoral, it’s sad that he become famous because 10% of the time when he isn’t slating women, he tells boys to take responsibility and to be pro active. These are things a girls mother tells her every single day!

Like what do you think it does to the psyche of a guy when the sister is doing everything around the house essentially being a mini mum with the same academic expectations and the boy on the other hand is only expected to do homework and play on his PlayStation and then go out with his mates, his parents don’t even know.

In the past, whilst a young girl was being taught how to look after the home, the boys were taught to train for battle, horse riding, often they’d work alongside the father, do barn work or the like. They’d be trained to be maintainers and protectors.

Thats usually why I have more sympathy for a men who turns out to become a complete ciyaalasuuq compared to a girl who does the same thing, I have sympathy for girls for other things that are difficult

I get where you’re coming from. But equally, I find it hard to be sympathetic for boys when the media and a lot of redpillers talk about how young girls are doing better at school. It’s crazy how a lot of boys only expectations from parents is to do well, yet many girls especially from ethnic backgrounds have to help raise their younger siblings.

for them but not particularly issues men have.
Alot of girls complain about them not being able to do the stuff boys do, and to an extent I actually agree the way it is forced is not a productive way to discipline and train your daughter, but they don't see the downside to boys being able to do anything they want.

Honestly, girls being raised this way isn’t bad. But the issue is that double standards and how later on, these same girls that are disciplined are expected to marry undisciplined men who weren’t raised to be husbands, yet the women was raised to be a wife.

A lot of young men don’t want to honest about this and I know it’s a difficult conversation because you have immature girls screaming ‘men are trash’ but the truth needs to be told to parents about being they’re creating community problems.

 

[jemappelle]

I’ve been saying it for a long time here, but I’m constantly told it’s a ‘feminist’ argument despite the fact that real life and the data shows this.

Umm, Im pretty sure most men will agree with this, maybe its because they see everything you say as feminist, if I posted it I don't think anyone would disagree with me.

The things is, many silly men like the freedoms it comes with it, without realizing the immense damage it is doing to young boys.

Its usually the stupid irreligious ones

As much as I dislike Tate and think he’s deeply immoral, it’s sad that he become famous because 10% of the time when he isn’t slating women, he tells boys to take responsibility and to be pro active. These are things a girls mother tells her every single day!

Im going to be honest ive watched alot of tates podcasts and 90% of the time hes making a social commentary, then he makes a blatantly stupid over generalization, then everyone int he room just agrees with him without saying anything. I have heard him say he teaches young men to be responsible, but I have never actually heard him tell men what to do in any of his podcasts or tell them to be responsible, its only when hes defending himself against piers Morgan he claims he teaches young men to be responsible
, maybe he teaches it in hustlers university?

he tells boys to take responsibility and to be pro active. These are things a girls mother tells her every single day!

Your xooyo tells you this?

Like what do you think it does to the psyche of a guy when the sister is doing everything around the house essentially being a mini mum with the same academic expectations and the boy on the other hand is only expected to do homework and play on his PlayStation and then go out with his mates, his parents don’t even know.

I'm gonna be honest boys don't do homework, we just copy it from someone else because homework is too boring, I think I've been set about 600 homeworks since primary school and actually done maybe 4 or 5 of them at most, also sometimes we ask the girls in the class so we can copy our work from them because girls like doing homework or are just really good at it so we can rely on them to do it, if its a boys class we copy from one kid who always does the homework.
Playstation and games are addictive, if you live in the hood and your parents don't want you going out then your gonna be at home playing games all day cos u got nothing else to do, if your parents let you go out then your entire childhood will be playing around.

In the past, whilst a young girl was being taught how to look after the home, the boys were taught to train for battle, horse riding, often they’d work alongside the father, do barn work or the like. They’d be trained to be maintainers and protectors.

Can't tell you 3 things my dad ever taught me, I only realized when I turned 17 that your supposed to have a "father figure " in your life and you dad is meant to teach you stuff?

I get where you’re coming from. But equally, I find it hard to be sympathetic for boys when the media and a lot of redpillers talk about how young girls are doing better at school. It’s crazy how a lot of boys only expectations from parents is to do well, yet many girls especially from ethnic backgrounds have to help raise their younger siblings.

Well I don't like redpillers and these people on the media spreading lies, I don't necessarily feel sorry for them but the ones online I am convinced know they are wrong or haven't had their stupid beliefs challenged yet, the young boys who fall for this are just uneducated and lost, as soon as they pick up a book and research the magic spell will be cast off them.
The thing is that the way they go about it is stupid, they blame girls for the problems the government created, boys find it much harder to do well at school, but thats the higher ups problems, the girls are just living their life.

Honestly, girls being raised this way isn’t bad. But the issue is that double standards and how later on, these same girls that are disciplined are expected to marry undisciplined men who weren’t raised to be husbands, yet the women was raised to be a wife.

A lot of young men don’t want to honest about this and I know it’s a difficult conversation because you have immature girls screaming ‘men are trash’ but the truth needs to be told to parents about being they’re creating community problems.

Personally I would want my daughter to be free to choose what she wants, I don't want to be too strict with her, I personally never wanted sons in my life, I still can't grasp why any man would want a son, but maybe I am just special

 

[DubatDiaries]

You would be surprised as to how relevant it still is in many circles.

Folks are still yapping it up like a Jane Austen novel?

 

[AbrahamFreedom]

Most cultures tend to have higher standards for women. We’re policed more, monitored more and this starts from a very young age. Also, it’s harder for a girl to get into the wrong crowd as girls don’t have as much freedom as boys. A young girl isn’t going to be allowed to go out with mates as much or stay out longer, thus lessening the exposure to degeneracy. Also, most cultures have a ‘boys will be boys’ attitudes to men’s mistakes whilst women are told that the family’s honor is in their hands. A girl messing up will impact everyone, from the father to the mother and to the brother. Also, young girls are given responsibilities at a younger age as families tell them that they’re going to wives someday, hence they need to learn how to cook, clean and help with younger sibling.

Don’t get me wrong, monitoring girls and giving them responsibilities is a good thing, but it’s sad that young men aren’t given the equivalence nor are they watched as much as they should. It’s causing an imbalance, because what you’re having is badly raised boy being raised in the same households of girls who’ve been trained well.


Honestly, the way society particularly Somalis raise their boys is causing direct issues and it’s impacting the marriage market. Say what you want to say about Somali girls, yes you do get degenerate ones who want to shake their ass on TikTok, but one thing that is facts is that the vast majority of them have morals and are responsible. Furthermore, a lot have managed to not only get degrees and work ect but they also help their parents with the chores and it’s very common for girls from my generation to give their parents money for the house ect.

Allowing boys to be responsibility free is damaging us and that is what is happening with Western Somalis.

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[JohnCena]

if you're a white lgbtq woman, you have life on easy mode


I would rank it as



white lgbtq women>white lgbtq men>straight white women>straight white men>poc lgbtq women>poc lgbtq men> poc straight women>poc straight men



In the eastern world,


I would rank it as




Straight White Man>Straight White Woman>POC Straight Man> POC Straight Woman>Lgbtq White Man> LGBTQ Woman

 

[Qeelbax]

I don't get the meme? Do you mean they start a podcast or what?

yup.

 

[Yaraye]

Be nice. Can you not tell from my name?

what is your name anyway? I can't read that language? font? what is it?

 

[jemappelle]

yup.

You do realize those are 0.00001% of men who are outcasts in society. Most men never complain, its women who do all the complaining, all the time

 

[Danakiil]

But why what’s the reason?

No b*tches

 

[Angelina]

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[bluebird]

men have it better in a lot of ways. men who transition into women complain about how they are treated too and no longer taken seriously in the workplace, dealing with harassment, etc. I feel like woman can sometimes have it *easier* in the sense that if you find a good husband who is also financially comfortable you can opt out of the rat race and live a more relaxed life. but if you end up with a childish and broke man, it means double work lol. so at the end of the day, it really just depends on your circumstances in life, whether you are male or female.

 

[jemappelle]

men have it better in a lot of ways. men who transition into women complain about how they are treated too and no longer taken seriously in the workplace, dealing with harassment, etc. I feel like woman can sometimes have it *easier* in the sense that if you find a good husband who is also financially comfortable you can opt out of the rat race and live a more relaxed life. but if you end up with a childish and broke man, it means double work lol. so at the end of the day, it really just depends on your circumstances in life, whether you are male or female.

Have you heard about the women who transition in men?

 

[bluebird]

Have you heard about the women who transition in men?

no. but their experiences would probably depend on how they looked before and after. a big, masculine looking woman might end up looking like typical man and get treated better. but a smaller girl might end up looking a lot shorter and feminine as a man and get bullied for it.

 

[jemappelle]

no. but their experiences would probably depend on how they looked before and after. a big, masculine looking woman might end up looking like typical man and get treated better. but a smaller girl might end up looking a lot shorter and feminine as a man and get bullied for it.

I don't think a women would be able to live as a man and vice versa, they each have different issues
for example , as a women, if I told you to be like a man, you can never complain or vent again, do you think that would be possible?

 

[Yaraye]

Upper class cadaans keep their kids busy by nurturing their minds and giving them responsibilities. Somali boys are hardly criticized as parents don't have much expectations of them when they're young. They need to get them to do stuff. That is what builds confidence, not running around on the estate with the boys or staring at the Playstation. [/SPOILER]

That's true. If children are kept busy and given responsibilities/ punishments if they don't fulfill those responsibilities, they'll have become disciplined and have no time to get into degeneracy .

It is key to keep them busy until they hit the haysack

 

[Hamzarashid]

Yeah, imagine living in a third world country. I swear the opportunities we have in first world countries which most western countries are we take for granted. By saying that it's not the west moral virtues that got them in that position that but it was raping and pillaging of people's land that made them who they are today, but that's another topic for another day. The poorest European country still has drinkable water and food to eat as well as other amenities such as, the internet and basic housing. Plus they have white women which is most important thing.

 

[Yaraye]

Yeah, imagine living in a third world country. I swear the opportunities we have in first world countries which most western countries are we take for granted. By saying that it's not the west moral virtues that got them in that position that but it was raping and pillaging of people's land that made them who they are today, but that's another topic for another day. The poorest European country still has drinkable water and food to eat as well as other amenities such as, the internet and basic housing. Plus they have white women which is most important thing.

It's amazing that you talked about crucial things like drinkable water and food. Then ended your paragraph with "white women which is the most important" WTF?

 

[Hamzarashid]

It's amazing that you talked about crucial things like drinkable water and food. Then ended your paragraph with "white women which is the most important" WTF?

I can forsake water, as in the presence of white women it means nothing to me.