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Egypt & Somalia vs Ethiopia
- Thread starter Yahya
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It really is depressing
Thanks to Pan africanists who worship Ethiopia. "Muh never colonized Christian kingdom" plus we're completely Muslim and many madows have a problem with that big time
Soon we will bring our lands bacj from xabishi.
There is also the fact that modern ethiopia has this huge and really succesful propganda of them being an imperial power and ancient civilization. I was watching the Hudson institute video that got realized yesterday where these analysts brought that exact point up. But it when funny you look at the past 1400+ years since aksum collapsed. That you can point to and say they really dominated the whole region . Especially in comparison to other empires.They really love to claim each-others unproductive lands and try to mass genocide eachother over it. They have no shame. I am not really suprised they would try to extend this to Somalis.
Prior to the British and Italians giving them Ogaden. The Ethiopians had no control Western Somalia or governed it, they always attempted and failed miserably.
''Sporadic tax raids were sent out often without success''
And even their control over Jijiga wasn't solid and the whole Ogaden during the late 1880s and early 1900s was governed by Darawish and other Shayukhs.
Battle of Jigjiga (1900) - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
Notice they love to make up lies and claims when they are defeated and claim to posses territories they don't control. Even their Europeans allies were baffled by the delusional claims made by Ethiopians.
It's the same during the Middle Ages their kings would be utterly defeated and pursued deep into the highlands by the Emirs and they would write propaganda fiction pieces afterwards about reaching lands he never been to and claiming victory.
And during the middle ages Western and Northern Somalia was too remote and distant to the Ethiopian Highlanders terra incognita , i.e ''The Unknown Lowlands'' as they called it and they would paint fantasies in their head about it in their sources.
You can also see why the Axumite claim is also completely ludicrous from this, despite the fact that Axumites were seperate from Amhara and Tigrayans , the former was pagan until the 13th century. We mostly came in direct political contact with eachother when Somalis expanded into Showa in the 13th century which acted as a border frontier between the Muslims lowlanders and the Christian highlanders.
They were a large population who struggled against a small group of Muslim garrisons fortified near the Showa and other Frontier territories which was areas that was annexed/expanded to by Awdal emirs who weren't originally from there and came from a center point in the east.
To sum it up it is accepted by most rational thinkers that Somalia has largely been self governed throughout most of it's history, except for the brief interlude in the past century,
And the name Al-Sumaliyah was utilized by Somali Shaykhs prior to colonization to refer to their homeland during the modern period so the country/land called Somalia was there ,and the modern state of Soomaliya was founded by Somali independence movements that sought reclaim it's territorial intergrity.
Whereas one could argue that Ethiopia was largely created by the British and acted as a puppet client state, The British basically controlled everything during Haile Sellassies reign, their economy, military equipment, their police force and natural resources, set up all institutions and while Haile Sellassie literally d out his country men to them.
Ethiopia, the country with a trillion insurgencies would want zero confrontation with anyone.
Abiy has other things to keep check on like FANO, OLF etc
Idilinaa
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Whats even more funny about it, other nations/societies on earth study their past and reject periods in their history where they experience regression/setbacks etc, Europeans ''Dark Ages'', Arabs/Muslims ''Jahiliya''(Age of Ignorance) , China ''Century of Humiliation'' and Latin America/Japan ''The Lost Decade/s'' and try to progress passed it .
Ethiopia is one of only nations that looks at their backwardness and regression with rose coloured lenses, and continued on the same path for 1400 years, don't even contemplate on what went wrong, or how to fix it and make lies up. So it's not even propaganda that helps them.
In the next coming decades Ethiopia will shatter into pieces and then people are going to interrogate it , ask questions and all the myths they built up will lay bare.
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I've never seen any of these analysts mention how lopsided Ethiopia's development is ( in a country of 100+million there are only 3 cities with a million+ pouplation) or the fact that they have little control over large parts of the country.
No war is going to happen. Sisi is using Somalis to make his shacab think he’s confronting Ethiopia. As Trump said, if Egypt were a serious country they would have bombed the crap out of that damn.
Eygpt bombing the dam would have killed several hundreds of thousands instantly. It would be on the scale of the bombs america dropped. Nobody could withstand such political consequences
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Idilinaa
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They operates much like how they did since the medieval period. Although largely ignored by the public mainstream analysts , there is this one study i shared with you last that actually mentions it
Although it has had the potential for growth and development, with a plenty of natural resources and snug climatic conditions, the Ethiopian economy has remained underdeveloped for a long period of time. This underdevelopment of Ethiopian economy inevitably has a medieval antecedent.
And the cities like Addis unlike JigJiga are just a giant slums for the most part. They don't operate like actual cities . The ones that live in the non slum parts are actually miniscule in comparison.
There are other things i could mention, like how indifferent, cruel and enstranged Ethiopians are to eachother. This i have also noticed is rooted in historical culture.
A European Christian Patriarch with close ties to the Ethiopian Orthodox visited Ethiopia during the 1800s described how he and his group of men were left to fend for themselves enduring hunger and how ethiopians would let eachother starve to death and live in abject poverty, not even extend a helping hand to eachother or sharing food.
They legit paint the picture of callous psychopaths. Draws comparison to the kindness and empathy of Muslims/Arabs in comparison
The important part about ignoring, justifiying famine and starvation:
This extends to the aittude of their own Kings and Presidents. They witness/let massive death starvation happen to their people and move about like nothing happened. And even conceal it.
Ethiopia's history of famine denial
Viewpoint: From Ethiopia's Tigray region to Yemen, the dilemma of declaring a famine
Alex de Waal writes about the starvation that conflicts cause, and the difficulties in tackling it.
www.bbc.com
The same with Abyi Ahmed today, he is completely indifferent to the fact his countrymen are mass starving, 4 million people are in risk of dying from hunger.
Nearly 400 Ethiopians have died of starvation | Africanews
Nearly 400 people have died of starvation in Ethiopia's Tigray and Amhara regions in recent months, the national ombudsman said Tuesday, a rare admission of hunger-related deaths by a federal body.
www.africanews.com
What i said in another thread some days ago:
But Ethiopian leadership continue to prove to be the regional chaos maker, they can never work peacefully with their neighbors in a mutually beneficial way , their state ideology being unchanged since the medieval period.
They move like they are lords of the world, while their country remains poor, backward and destitute riddle with dysfunction. It's like peaking into the minds of a grandiose narcissist.
This article sums it up: Accurate title as well.
Abiy Ahmed, OLF, TPLF: Dangerous Psychopaths and Group Narcissists Perpetuating War, Chaos, Misery and Poverty
Abiy Ahmed, OLF, TPLF: Dangerous Psychopaths and Group Narcissists Perpetuating War, Chaos, Misery and Poverty
The Prime Minister, Abiy Ahmed, the Oromo Liberation Front (OLF), and the Tigray People’s Liberation Front (TPLF), separately and together, are all very muchzehabesha.com
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Cook those injirleyThey operates much like how they did since the medieval period. Although largely ignored by the public mainstream analysts , there is this one study i shared with you last that actually mentions it
Although it has had the potential for growth and development, with a plenty of natural resources and snug climatic conditions, the Ethiopian economy has remained underdeveloped for a long period of time. This underdevelopment of Ethiopian economy inevitably has a medieval antecedent.
And the cities like Addis unlike JigJiga are just a giant slums for the most part. They don't operate like actual cities . The ones that live in the non slum parts are actually miniscule in comparison.
There are other things i could mention, like how indifferent, cruel and enstranged Ethiopians are to eachother. This i have also noticed is rooted in historical culture.
A European Christian Patriarch with close ties to the Ethiopian Orthodox visited Ethiopia during the 1800s described how he and his group of men were left to fend for themselves enduring hunger and how ethiopians would let eachother starve to death and live in abject poverty, not even extend a helping hand to eachother or sharing food.
They legit paint the picture of callous psychopaths. Draws comparison to the kindness and empathy of Muslims/Arabs in comparison
The important part about ignoring, justifiying famine and starvation:
This extends to the aittude of their own Kings and Presidents. They witness/let massive death starvation happen to their people and move about like nothing happened. And even conceal it.
Ethiopia's history of famine denial
Viewpoint: From Ethiopia's Tigray region to Yemen, the dilemma of declaring a famine
Alex de Waal writes about the starvation that conflicts cause, and the difficulties in tackling it.
The same with Abyi Ahmed today, he is completely indifferent to the fact his countrymen are mass starving, 4 million people are in risk of dying from hunger.
Nearly 400 Ethiopians have died of starvation | Africanews
Nearly 400 people have died of starvation in Ethiopia's Tigray and Amhara regions in recent months, the national ombudsman said Tuesday, a rare admission of hunger-related deaths by a federal body.
What i said in another thread some days ago:
Yemeni 2.0, but instead it's a proxy war by two poor shitholes that aren't economically stable
Kinda embarrassing when you think about it
Kinda embarrassing when you think about it
Idilinaa
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Ethiopia is kinda treated like Isreal by the the international community, despite the human rights abuses, genocide, famine denialism and mismanagement and poor performance, they continue to prop up their leadership and don't put any serious sanctions on them like they did with Somalia and Eritrea.
Not a single one of their leaders has been tried in the international courts. There has yet to be a single intervention or invasion of Ethiopia as well like they would justify doing if it was any other.
This honestly makes me call into question their literary and education rates if their pouplation is 80% rural then the 50% literacy rate seems doubtful especially considering how after they implemented ethnic federalism each state could teach in their own language which inevitably means that amahric usage on some level would decline. But everything is written in mainly amahric ?They operates much like how they did since the medieval period. Although largely ignored by the public mainstream analysts , there is this one study i shared with you last that actually mentions it
Although it has had the potential for growth and development, with a plenty of natural resources and snug climatic conditions, the Ethiopian economy has remained underdeveloped for a long period of time. This underdevelopment of Ethiopian economy inevitably has a medieval antecedent.
And the cities like Addis unlike JigJiga are just a giant slums for the most part. They don't operate like actual cities . The ones that live in the non slum parts are actually miniscule in comparison.
There are other things i could mention, like how indifferent, cruel and enstranged Ethiopians are to eachother. This i have also noticed is rooted in historical culture.
A European Christian Patriarch with close ties to the Ethiopian Orthodox visited Ethiopia during the 1800s described how he and his group of men were left to fend for themselves enduring hunger and how ethiopians would let eachother starve to death and live in abject poverty, not even extend a helping hand to eachother or sharing food.
They legit paint the picture of callous psychopaths. Draws comparison to the kindness and empathy of Muslims/Arabs in comparison
The important part about ignoring, justifiying famine and starvation:
This extends to the aittude of their own Kings and Presidents. They witness/let massive death starvation happen to their people and move about like nothing happened. And even conceal it.
Ethiopia's history of famine denial
Viewpoint: From Ethiopia's Tigray region to Yemen, the dilemma of declaring a famine
Alex de Waal writes about the starvation that conflicts cause, and the difficulties in tackling it.
The same with Abyi Ahmed today, he is completely indifferent to the fact his countrymen are mass starving, 4 million people are in risk of dying from hunger.
Nearly 400 Ethiopians have died of starvation | Africanews
Nearly 400 people have died of starvation in Ethiopia's Tigray and Amhara regions in recent months, the national ombudsman said Tuesday, a rare admission of hunger-related deaths by a federal body.
What i said in another thread some days ago:
I think the best comparison to Ethiopia would be india. On paper all these analysts talk about these countries have large pouplation as anicnet cvilization they'll become regional and superpowers respectively. But when you investigate thier fundamentals you notice that it's mainly them manipulating a bunch of statsics and fudging the numbers. In both ethiopia and india foerign investment has directly failed to transform into industrialization. And these investors lose their money and but the hype still continues. One thing is for sure though somebody like abiy will not give up power and you look at the ethiopian reddit about people moving to addis abbba they talk about how much worse it's become post covid and post tplf war.
So basically Ethiopians are sociopaths and psychopaths that don't care about anybody else except themselves.They operates much like how they did since the medieval period. Although largely ignored by the public mainstream analysts , there is this one study i shared with you last that actually mentions it
Although it has had the potential for growth and development, with a plenty of natural resources and snug climatic conditions, the Ethiopian economy has remained underdeveloped for a long period of time. This underdevelopment of Ethiopian economy inevitably has a medieval antecedent.
And the cities like Addis unlike JigJiga are just a giant slums for the most part. They don't operate like actual cities . The ones that live in the non slum parts are actually miniscule in comparison.
There are other things i could mention, like how indifferent, cruel and enstranged Ethiopians are to eachother. This i have also noticed is rooted in historical culture.
A European Christian Patriarch with close ties to the Ethiopian Orthodox visited Ethiopia during the 1800s described how he and his group of men were left to fend for themselves enduring hunger and how ethiopians would let eachother starve to death and live in abject poverty, not even extend a helping hand to eachother or sharing food.
They legit paint the picture of callous psychopaths. Draws comparison to the kindness and empathy of Muslims/Arabs in comparison
The important part about ignoring, justifiying famine and starvation:
This extends to the aittude of their own Kings and Presidents. They witness/let massive death starvation happen to their people and move about like nothing happened. And even conceal it.
Ethiopia's history of famine denial
Viewpoint: From Ethiopia's Tigray region to Yemen, the dilemma of declaring a famine
Alex de Waal writes about the starvation that conflicts cause, and the difficulties in tackling it.
The same with Abyi Ahmed today, he is completely indifferent to the fact his countrymen are mass starving, 4 million people are in risk of dying from hunger.
Nearly 400 Ethiopians have died of starvation | Africanews
Nearly 400 people have died of starvation in Ethiopia's Tigray and Amhara regions in recent months, the national ombudsman said Tuesday, a rare admission of hunger-related deaths by a federal body.
What i said in another thread some days ago:
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