Gen Maxamed Nuur Galaal’s shameful rhetoric stirs controversy

[Gadhwayne]

Issaq is dir tho. I kniw they technically aren’t but....


they basically are

stop saying Isaaq is part of Irir unless @Dalalos_ibn_Adali is onto something and some or all Mudulood are MJ

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/isaaq-vs-dir.104384/

According to the latest UNFPA 2014 census:

Hawiye is 3.3 Millions.
Daarood is 3.2 Millions.
Rahanwayan 2.2 Millions.
Isaaq: 2.1 Millions.


The old-timer can spew vitriolic vomit in those lame ass conferences but he won't change the actual demographics on the ground. Darood is the biggest clan of All Somalis, Ogaden alone eclipses Hawiye in numbers.

Flawed survey which did not even ask clan names

They are talking about Somali republic area
Not included DDS, Jibuuty and Northeast, NFD.
Still Darood are majority
Darood 30%
Hawiya 25%
Dir 20%
DM 18%
Other 7%
Fact

See my replies to @karin the survey was flawed as pointed out by @Wir and @TabK and @zak1up. Isaaq not part of Dir

Btw why do you divide Irir confederation into Haawiye and Dir while all the clans in Jabarti confedetation are grouped together?

What if it was Haawiye compared to MJ or Hiraab compared to CismaanMaxmuud

All that land and you think darood is minority. You know there is a somali proverb " gaalka diil laakin xaqiisa sii' hate darood all you want but calling a majority qabil a minority is just the most stupidest thing. It says more about you then it does darood. Inferiority complex to the max

Jabarti confederation is pretty big but I think all consensus is that Samaale confedetation is much bigger thats why the nation is named after them

That's sheer stupidity. No other city has the capabilities to fulfill the needs of a capital. But one can always dream.

Actually I cant believe that the people of Benaadir accept being controlled by FGS the governor/president of Irir states appointed by MrCheese who does not even get to appoint leaders for Jabarti provinces

Your country allocates positions based on a 4.5 tribe system so it does matter. All he is saying is maybe Darood political representation is over inflated and should be lessened based on their actual population which is low compared to the big Qabiils

They should definitely replace 4.5 system with representation based on Italian era clan surveys

So hawiye were something pre-msb? Warya MSB freed your adoon ass from mjs who used to own you. In mudug we had a green line for your folk, if you stepped over it you'd be shot. You were miskiins at the mercy of darood. MSB abolished that line which is why you claim darood lands in mudug today. Darood odays and men died and were imprisoned for trying to keep the line .

Pre-msb somalia was a darood state, darood dominated every sector. They dominated you economically, politically, and socially. They had bigger positions in the army. What was hawiye pre-msb, you're full of lies and bs. You owned nothing and had nothing. The mogadishu that today you say "unuka leh" you didn't even live there. Abgaal lived in the baadiye near mogadishu were they rode donkeys. In the day you brought those donkeys inside the city to do business and in the night you and your donkeys were kicked outside the city. Hawiye had less than 5 houses inside mogadishu forget hg who came naked from mudug in 1991. Msb made you a human, and gave you military training and gave you positions something you could only dream of. This weakened Mjs grip on power which is why they revolted, they couldn't stand that they were made equal to hawiye and other langaabs.

PreAfweyne the government was a mafia democracy hated by all except Mudulood and MJ

Your MX folks were underserved in the 60s criminal reoublic as much as nonMudulood Haawiye

Stirs controversy? half of you seem to have a problem with the shir happening i'm not suprised anything being said triggers you.

He's not an 'elder', he's a battle harderned soldier whose caught Darod bodies for a living, he can say what he likes

I didnt hear any hatred from that guy even though I disagreed with what he said about Isaaq. I think there should be more assertiveness from the people of Benaadir.

How was Benaadir is most populous province the only taxed paying province and the only unrepresented province

 

[Gadhwayne]

When did MJ and MX agree to a spokesman

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[scarecrow]

This is the type of things low IQ somalis enjoy ; The type of nonsensical you see daily on social media back and forth crap, worse then kids.

Somalia really needs to work on education I think that's the key to demolishing this culture.

 

[TabK]

The Awdal region was part of W/Galbeed in 1975 thus boasting your numbers massively about 37%.

Togdheer alone had more population than Bari + Nugaal + Sool. What is your point?

Single digit IQ.

 

[Karim]

@TabK @Wir
Y'all can post inane centuries old colonial reports all you want and slander members who call out your egregious LIES but the facts are your little clan is equal in size to a sub sub clan of Darood.

According to the 2014 UNFPA report your tribe is 2.1 M.

Let me calculate it for you:
W/Galbeed (1,242,003)+ Togdheer Minus Buuhoodle (637,616)+ Ceel Afwayn (99,950)+ Ceerigaabo 60% (123,190)+ Ceynaba district of Sool (59,080):

The Total is: 2,161,839.

Ranting and slandering people won't make your little laangaab clan equal to Darood in numbers. Accept the harsh truth and move on.

 

[Libaax-Joore]

@TabK @Wir
Y'all can post inane centuries old colonial reports all you want and slander members who call out your egregious LIES but the facts are your little clan is equal in size to a sub sub clan of Darood.

According to the 2014 UNFPA report your tribe is 2.1 M.

Let me calculate it for you:
W/Galbeed (1,242,003)+ Togdheer Minus Buuhoodle (637,616)+ Ceel Afwayn (99,950)+ Ceerigaabo 60% (123,190)+ Ceynaba district of Sool (59,080):

The Total is: 2,161,839.

Ranting and slandering people won't make your little laangaab clan equal to Darood in numbers. Accept the harsh truth and move on. View attachment 164103

85k o hello fuckin no qardho 280k, banderbeyla 15k o he'll fuckin no banderbeyla is over 100....unfp hoyadod ha wasan kalabta

 

[TabK]

@TabK @Wir
Y'all can post inane centuries old colonial reports all you want and slander members who call out your egregious LIES but the facts are your little clan is equal in size to a sub sub clan of Darood.

According to the 2014 UNFPA report your tribe is 2.1 M.

Let me calculate it for you:
W/Galbeed (1,242,003)+ Togdheer Minus Buuhoodle (637,616)+ Ceel Afwayn (99,950)+ Ceerigaabo 60% (123,190)+ Ceynaba district of Sool (59,080):

The Total is: 2,161,839.

Ranting and slandering people won't make your little laangaab clan equal to Darood in numbers. Accept the harsh truth and move on. View attachment 164103

Single digit IQ, this is almost as bad as when you brought up discrepancies in the estimate to argue that its a good source.

You are too stupid to understand the difference between an NGO estimate, and a national census.

As an example, here is another UN agency's estimate of the 2014 population of the desert region of Puntland:

According to this estimate:

Bari's 2014 population = 364,200
Nugaal's 2014 population = 194,300

A completely different picture from the other estimate you are touting, again for the same 2014 year:

Bari's 2014 population = 719,512 (a whopping +97% increase on the other estimate).
Nugaal's 2014 population = 392,698 (an eye-watering +102% increase on the other estimate).

This is why no one is buying these bogus estimates.

Every single official census in the history of the region shows one very clear picture:

In terms of population, Puntland desert region is the smallest constituency in the Horn of Africa.

 

[Karim]

Single digit IQ, this is almost as bad as when you brought up discrepancies in the estimate to argue that its a good source.

You are too stupid to understand the difference between an NGO estimate, and a national census.

As an example, here is another UN agency's estimate of the 2014 population of the desert region of Puntland:

View attachment 164241

According to this estimate:

Bari's 2014 population = 364,200
Nugaal's 2014 population = 194,300

A completely different picture from the other estimate you are touting, again for the same 2014 year:

View attachment 164261

Bari's 2014 population = 719,512 (a whopping +97% increase on the other estimate).
Nugaal's 2014 population = 392,698 (an eye-watering +102% increase on the other estimate).

This is why no one is buying these bogus estimates.

Every single official census in the history of the region shows one very clear picture:

In terms of population, Puntland desert region is the smallest constituency in the Horn of Africa.

That's your own opinion porcupine boy, we can't possibly entertain your word over highly respected UN Agencies that have actually done the work.

Your retardation is boundless since you keep posting UN reports and maps about rainfalls, and population density but keep dismissing their reports about the general population. You can't pick and choose motherfucker

 

[TabK]

That's your own opinion porcupine boy, we can't possibly entertain your word over highly respected UN Agencies that have actually done the work.

Your retardation is boundless since you keep posting UN reports and maps about rainfalls, and population density but keep dismissing their reports about the general population. You can't pick and choose motherfucker

Single digit IQ,

This is not an opinion. Literally every single census in the history of the region returned the same fact, namely that your desert territory of Puntland region is the smallest constituency in terms of population in the Horn of Africa.

There is no dispute here.

 

[Karim]

Single digit IQ,

This is not an opinion. Literally every single census in the history of the region returned the same fact, namely that your desert territory of Puntland region is the smallest constituency in terms of population in the Horn of Africa.

There is no dispute here.

Severely retarded swamp dwellers like yourself would pretty much say that, porcupine boy.

One Somali proverb comes to mind when imbeciles like yourself act all-knowing in the face of mounting evidence from well respected sources.
Doqoni xin mooyiye, xisaab ma oga.

But you wouldn't know that porcupine boy.

 

[TabK]

Instead of posting official census data from any point in the history of the region supporting your position, you are defending yourself with memes.

Single. Digit. IQ.

 

[Karim]

@TabK

It hurts when your clan is equal in size to a sub sub clan of Kablalax Darood and would go to any distance to spew envious rhetoric against them.

That 2.1M figure for your entire tribe (which is more than I expected tbh) hurts your feelings kkkkk so you keep posting 90 year old colonial figures to MATCH your stupendous narrative against the blessed Beesha




I'd say serve yourself the exquisite cuisine porcupine alla Mignon to quench the envious flames of your soul

 

[TabK]

Single digit IQ,

As soon as your lies were exposed you resorted to memes as a way of covering up how you are being humiliated. But you are too dumb even to use memes.

If you want to talk about clans take it to the tribal section.

 

[Karim]

@TabK

You seem to be absolutely dumbfounded by that 2.1M figure for your clan which forces your hand to go back centuries old colonial reports. It's Okay to be laangaab porcupine boy. Feels like the UN reports deeply wounded your soul.

Why are you crying motherfucker?!

 

[Waaqmasho]

@TabK

You seem to be absolutely dumbfounded by that 2.1M figure for your clan which forces your hand to go back centuries old colonial reports. It's Okay to be laangaab porcupine boy. Feels like the UN reports deeply wounded your soul.

Why are you crying motherfucker?!
View attachment 164432

They say morgan told msb to kill 100k so isaaq wont be able to compete with harti.

 

[Karim]

They say morgan told msb to kill 100k so isaaq wont be able to compete with harti.

This laangaab porcupine fucker is too heartbroken by that 2.1M number...

Bro I heard they serve porcupine meatballs in Ceynaba. It's crazy walaahi.

 

[Waaqmasho]

This laangaab porcupine fucker is too heartbroken by that 2.1M number...

Bro I heard they serve porcupine meatballs in Ceynaba. It's crazy walaahi.

Werent they serving donkey meat too?
Also how we know these 2.1m are isaaq? Many harti own land and live in waqooyi galbeed plus many other somalis too. And im sure at least 1 million of those are oromos pretending to be one of habars.

 

[Karim]

Werent they serving donkey meat too?
Also how we know these 2.1m are isaaq? Many harti own land and live in waqooyi galbeed plus many other somalis too. And im sure at least 1 million of those are oromos pretending to be one of habars.

I was trying to be generous with that 2.1M figure tbh. We all know harGAYsa has humongous population of Oromo, Dir, and other Somali clans.

Some cousin of mine from Puntland told me once that the consumption of porcupine and donkey meats are quite prevalent in Ceynaba. Them locals hunt poor old porcupines to smother their envious souls

Is this you @TabK

 

[Gucci Bucket Hat]

What a karbaash by @TabK and @Wir The Zanzibar @Karim has gotten his feelings hurt