They was head of the game
now it’s full of Bantu and Indians
Is mombasa found by the omanis or the southern Somali empire ?
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now it’s full of Bantu and IndiansIf we’re the closest to them then we have more rights to claim their work then Bantu
That what there tradition says and there is no evidence that somalis founded that city
Bantus are very recent. Any history pre 500AD just is nothing to do with bantu tribesmen who are still in Congo.If we’re the closest to them then we have more rights to claim their work then Bantu
I haven’t said Somali founded the city hence why I asked the question
Garaad diinle
It's been a while since i read anything about mombasa but the city is fairly old i'd say older than the 11th century. Mombasa is said to have been built by the shirazis but the story is surely more complex than this, i recon it was a comparative endeavour between the sabaki bantus and the persian traders. In oral tradition it's said that mombasa had 12 indigenous tribes among whom you'd find wakatwa a somali clan.
Another clan said to be somali in origin is found nearby and are called wasegeju who's been found in portuguese account describing the natives found in the hinterlands of malindi in the 16th century.
They don't recall much of their history but they state that they descend from a somali clan named kilio. That's an actual somali clan which is a sub-clan from quranyow garre.
I've also came across an account of a somali settlement in mombasa as big as that found in mocha in the 1850s.
There is also another clan found in tanzania callad tatoro or something that is said to have travelled from kenya to tanzania around 200 years ago and that they were originally somalis from somalia.
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Neither Omani Arabs or Reer Samaale's founded it
What's Somalis got to do with Mombasa in 1600s no correlation whatsoever
Azania is a Greek name given to coast of modern day east Africa from Banaadir coast all the way south to modern day. Mozambique.
Also Greeks didn't venture inland to know about demographics of cushites residing in the interior however it's known in modern day south Somalia, there were the cushitic tribes referred to as Gaal Madow by the Digils such as Maadanle, Tiiriyaat, Matiiti, Qolomata,Harta Diinle, Maliki, Haftun, Maashamille etc overall over 17 tribes are still remembered to this day from them. Some of them remained and where absorbed into Digil clans , Some became extinct and some migrated southwards.
Who's we? Bring evidence that lamu was founded by Reer samaale's
Somalis never ruled lamu. What a ridiculous and outrageous statement. What are you smoking?
.Arabs controlled a coastal region in East Africa called Azania, which extended from southern Somalia to Tanzania (Rhapta). The coastal region of Azania, which included Mogadishu, Marka, and Barawa, was subject to Amir Sharahbil Ya’fir ibn As’ad Abu Karib. Please read the source below.
"The Somali coast has certainly had ties of dependency with Arabia since very early times. Classical references include Herodotus, who makes mention in the 4th century B.C. of temporary settlements established down the East African coast by Phoenicians; and Agatharkhides, a Greek geographer living in Alexandria in the days of Ptolemy Philometer, tells us in 150 B.C.5 that the first permanent colonisers were the Sabeans from Southern Arabia, whom he describes as being strong, warlike and expert seamen.
They possess large ships and sail to the land of the aromatic products where they found colonies.... It is they who provide the Phoenicians with an endless variety of merchandise and prodigous profits."
Some two hundred years later the importanc "Periplus of the Erythraean Sea"" was written in Greek by an unknown Alexandrian merchant. It is a kind of geo- graphical and mercantile guide to the Red Sea, the East African and Arabian coasts. Part of paragraph 16, referring to the Somali coast, records:
The inhabitants of this coast, men of huge stature, are given to piracy; they live each in their own district, their own masters. In accordance with some ancient right, this district is subject to the sovereignty of the state that becomes most powerful in Arabia, and so is now ruled by the Mapharitic chieftain. From the king it is held tributary by the people of Muza who send there many ships with Arab captains and agents who enjoy the friendship of the natives, intermarry with them and thus become familiar with the coast and its language."
Arabs controlled a coastal region in East Africa called Azania, which extended from southern Somalia to Tanzania (Rhapta). The coastal region of Azania, which included Mogadishu, Marka, and Barawa, was subject to Amir Sharahbil Ya’fir ibn As’ad Abu Karib.
When you say Somalis, you mean the Benadiri people. It was actually the indigenous coastal Arabs (Benadiri) and Omanis that pushed out the Portuguese from the strategic towns along the Indian Ocean.
This is a lie. They only controlled Rapta. and that was not a colony until
.they (arab) they married the indigenous people and took their customs and language.
source: Periplus of the Erythraean Sea Arabic version
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OG sijiusIt's been a while since i read anything about mombasa but the city is fairly old i'd say older than the 11th century. Mombasa is said to have been built by the shirazis but the story is surely more complex than this, i recon it was a comparative endeavour between the sabaki bantus and the persian traders. In oral tradition it's said that mombasa had 12 indigenous tribes among whom you'd find wakatwa a somali clan.
Another clan said to be somali in origin is found nearby and are called wasegeju who's been found in portuguese account describing the natives found in the hinterlands of malindi in the 16th century.
They don't recall much of their history but they state that they descend from a somali clan named kilio. That's an actual somali clan which is a sub-clan from quranyow garre.
I've also came across an account of a somali settlement in mombasa as big as that found in mocha in the 1850s.
There is also another clan found in tanzania callad tatoro or something that is said to have travelled from kenya to tanzania around 200 years ago and that they were originally somalis from somalia.
Somalis called everyone Gaal meadow back then. Bantus to ethiopians. If you wasnt Muslim. It's just black pagan/infidel.
Ofc Greeks didn't visit. You think herodotus went to Somalia and called it macrobia? The whole book is literally herodotus writing about second or even third hand accounts. He literally wrote that people in central africa had 3 heads.
What you are describing is not Azania. That is called the swahili coast. Azania is a name given to the culture of south cushites who lived in the great lakes region. It's literally in the book I showed you
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