Is mombasa found by the omanis or the southern Somali empire ?

[GALAN]

Somalis called everyone Gaal meadow back then. Bantus to ethiopians. If you wasnt Muslim. It's just black pagan/infidel.

Ofc Greeks didn't visit. You think herodotus went to Somalia and called it macrobia? The whole book is literally herodotus writing about second or even third hand accounts. He literally wrote that people in central africa had 3 heads.

What you are describing is not Azania. That is called the swahili coast. Azania is a name given to the culture of south cushites who lived in the great lakes region. It's literally in the book I showed you

no, oromos were historically called Gaal by the somali? which Bantus or other Ethiopians did the somalis border none, the only tribes the Somali border are Oromo, and Afar and have no contact with other peoples. so these Gaal maadows were oromos since the Afar were up north, and the Ajuran had fought the Gaal meadow.

 

[Somali_patriotic]

Who's we? Bring evidence that lamu was founded by Reer samaale's

Are garre reer samaale? They're the ones who first settled in lamu.

Somalis never ruled lamu. What a ridiculous and outrageous statement. What are you smoking?.

Yes they did ruled along with the natives in the in Lamu Archipelago in 17th century after defeating the persians princes of pate.

 

[Cartan Boos]

There is still a last south cushite tribe there called iraqw numbering 1 million.

Azania is the name of southern cushites. Our lost people. Brothers of Nubia, Abyssinia, Oromia & Somalia.

Iraqw are pretty landheere here their settlement

 

[Cartan Boos]

Arabs controlled a coastal region in East Africa called Azania, which extended from southern Somalia to Tanzania (Rhapta). The coastal region of Azania, which included Mogadishu, Marka, and Barawa, was subject to Amir Sharahbil Ya’fir ibn As’ad Abu Karib. Please read the source below.

"The Somali coast has certainly had ties of dependency with Arabia since very early times. Classical references include Herodotus, who makes mention in the 4th century B.C. of temporary settlements established down the East African coast by Phoenicians; and Agatharkhides, a Greek geographer living in Alexandria in the days of Ptolemy Philometer, tells us in 150 B.C.5 that the first permanent colonisers were the Sabeans from Southern Arabia, whom he describes as being strong, warlike and expert seamen.

They possess large ships and sail to the land of the aromatic products where they found colonies.... It is they who provide the Phoenicians with an endless variety of merchandise and prodigous profits."

Some two hundred years later the importanc "Periplus of the Erythraean Sea"" was written in Greek by an unknown Alexandrian merchant. It is a kind of geo- graphical and mercantile guide to the Red Sea, the East African and Arabian coasts. Part of paragraph 16, referring to the Somali coast, records:

The inhabitants of this coast, men of huge stature, are given to piracy; they live each in their own district, their own masters. In accordance with some ancient right, this district is subject to the sovereignty of the state that becomes most powerful in Arabia, and so is now ruled by the Mapharitic chieftain. From the king it is held tributary by the people of Muza who send there many ships with Arab captains and agents who enjoy the friendship of the natives, intermarry with them and thus become familiar with the coast and its language."

Bro here faanin the same langaab omanis when they couldn't pay tribute to us we beheaded them and went to their colonial to behaed them all and free the bantu slaves

 

[Cartan Boos]

no, oromos were historically called Gaal by the somali? which Bantus or other Ethiopians did the somalis border none, the only tribes the Somali border are Oromo, and Afar and have no contact with other peoples. so these Gaal maadows were oromos since the Afar were up north, and the Ajuran had fought the Gaal meadow.

Oromos only capable of building huts stop the hotep even bantu are more capable than u, u kind came from Kenya

 

[NidarNidar]

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reminds me of the Fertility and Phallic Statues in the North Somalia and Afar/Saho region

 

[ibrahym]

reminds me of the Fertility and Phallic Statues in the North Somalia and Afar/Saho region

This is embarrassing
@Garaad diinle @Somali_patriotic
If someone makes fun of this, what do we do?

 

[NidarNidar]

This is embarrassing
@Garaad diinle @Somali_patriotic
If someone makes fun of this, what do we do?

Nothing embarrassing about it, it is still practiced to some extent to this day, even by Oromos if it makes you feel better.

Wagar, Fertility and Phallic Stelae: Cushitic Sky-God Belief and the Site of Saint Aw-Barkhadle, Somaliland - African Archaeological Review

This article is the first to present a study on the wagar, a sacred wooden sculpture kept by Somali women. This study explores the wagar and its significance as a sacred medium within fertility rituals and the religious syncretism in which such indigenous and non/pre-Islamic practice is...

link.springer.com

tutu Fella

 

[Somali_patriotic]

This is embarrassing
@Garaad diinle @Somali_patriotic
If someone makes fun of this, what do we do?

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[TheManWhoIsAlive]

Omanis and Persians.

Somali influence at the time was in the peninsula and probably some coastal cities for trade.

Beyond that, nothing else to be honest. We had a lot of kingdoms, but we didn't have an empire that actually controlled the entire peninsula.

We had strong influence in the region, but it's inception like Zanzibar was probably Omani in origin.

 

[Cartan Boos]

Omanis and Persians.

Somali influence at the time was in the peninsula and probably some coastal cities for trade.

Beyond that, nothing else to be honest. We had a lot of kingdoms, but we didn't have an empire that actually controlled the entire peninsula.

We had strong influence in the region, but it's inception like Zanzibar was probably Omani in origin.

Ajuran Complete dominated the region and the Indian ocean Making multiple colonial in east Africa like sofala and Maldives, Adal stretched around four nations Somalia, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Sudan, Geledi was stronger than the omanis to rhe point when they couldn't pay tribute to them they went to straight their capital and beheaded all the omanis

 

[GALAN]

Oromos only capable of building huts stop the hotep even bantu are more capable than u, u kind came from Kenya

lets say we came from Kenya which we didnt we captured as far as Tigray.

 

[GALAN]

Are garre reer samaale? They're the ones who first settled in lamu.

Yes they did ruled along with the natives in the in Lamu Archipelago in 17th century after defeating the persians princes of pate.
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the natives were Waata oromos.

 

[GALAN]

Ajuran Complete dominated the region and the Indian ocean Making multiple colonial in east Africa like sofala and Maldives, Adal stretched around four nations Somalia, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Sudan, Geledi was stronger than the omanis to rhe point when they couldn't pay tribute to them they went to straight their capital and beheaded all the omanis

Adal never reached Eritrea or Sudan bro.

 

[Somali_patriotic]

the natives were Waata oromos.

Source? Garre≠Oromo

 

[Banadiri Warrior]

Are garre reer samaale? They're the ones who first settled in lamu.

Yes they are, now prove they established the town.

Yes they did ruled along with the natives in the in Lamu Archipelago in 17th century after defeating the persians princes of pate.
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Who are the natives ?

 

[Banadiri Warrior]

Somalis called everyone Gaal meadow back then. Bantus to ethiopians. If you wasnt Muslim. It's just black pagan/infidel.

Incorrect, Bantus didn't exist in south at the time, unless you somehow beleive that they're native. I named a couple tribes that were known as Gaal Maadow during that era, now can you name which ones are bantu tribes ?

Ofc Greeks didn't visit. You think herodotus went to Somalia and called it macrobia? The whole book is literally herodotus writing about second or even third hand accounts. He literally wrote that people in central africa had 3 heads.

What you are describing is not Azania. That is called the swahili coast. Azania is a name given to the culture of south cushites who lived in the great lakes region. It's literally in the book I showed you

Azania is the coast not great lakes region, it covers modern day Banaadir, Bajuni and Swahili coast. You're already contradicting yourself by mentioning that Greeks didn't visit and that it's based on 2nd hand accounts.

 

[Emir of Zayla]

Arabs controlled a coastal region in East Africa called Azania, which extended from southern Somalia to Tanzania (Rhapta). The coastal region of Azania, which included Mogadishu, Marka, and Barawa, was subject to Amir Sharahbil Ya’fir ibn As’ad Abu Karib. Please read the source below.

"The Somali coast has certainly had ties of dependency with Arabia since very early times. Classical references include Herodotus, who makes mention in the 4th century B.C. of temporary settlements established down the East African coast by Phoenicians; and Agatharkhides, a Greek geographer living in Alexandria in the days of Ptolemy Philometer, tells us in 150 B.C.5 that the first permanent colonisers were the Sabeans from Southern Arabia, whom he describes as being strong, warlike and expert seamen.

They possess large ships and sail to the land of the aromatic products where they found colonies.... It is they who provide the Phoenicians with an endless variety of merchandise and prodigous profits."

Some two hundred years later the importanc "Periplus of the Erythraean Sea"" was written in Greek by an unknown Alexandrian merchant. It is a kind of geo- graphical and mercantile guide to the Red Sea, the East African and Arabian coasts. Part of paragraph 16, referring to the Somali coast, records:

The inhabitants of this coast, men of huge stature, are given to piracy; they live each in their own district, their own masters. In accordance with some ancient right, this district is subject to the sovereignty of the state that becomes most powerful in Arabia, and so is now ruled by the Mapharitic chieftain. From the king it is held tributary by the people of Muza who send there many ships with Arab captains and agents who enjoy the friendship of the natives, intermarry with them and thus become familiar with the coast and its language."

Arabs controlled a coastal region in East Africa called Azania, which extended from southern Somalia to Tanzania (Rhapta). The coastal region of Azania, which included Mogadishu, Marka, and Barawa, was subject to Amir Sharahbil Ya’fir ibn As’ad Abu Karib.

When you say Somalis, you mean the Benadiri people. It was actually the indigenous coastal Arabs (Benadiri) and Omanis that pushed out the Portuguese from the strategic towns along the Indian Ocean.

Don’t you get tired of repeating the same disproven sources and texts for months on end? This is literally a copy+paste of every single one of your posts for months. We’ve disproven this garbage over and over again.

 

[Emir of Zayla]

Adal never reached Eritrea or Sudan bro.

It did? It controlled up to Swakin and had Emirs who worked as administrators in Eritrea up to the Highlands before the Futuh.

 

[Somali_patriotic]

Yes they are, now prove they established the town.

Who are the natives ?

Established like the modern city? Idk who did that
What I'm saying is, they were the original settlers, if you agree then there's no further discussion.

According to the source they're called Famao, also should've worded it correctly
They're locals, the source says they're descendents of colonists so i assume their migration was recent.