Is mombasa found by the omanis or the southern Somali empire ?

[HabarSteven12]

He doesn't know the clans of all the alliances I listed them all, he was referring to whole alliances as if they're lineage qabiils, I don't see him naming the Bandhawow clans or Moorsho clans or Iskaashato clans or Dhabarweyne clans Or Saddex geedi clans or Yacquub clans or Reer maanyo clans.

I never claimed any minority be 50% . You're contradicting yourself by saying standalone clan. Any Banadiri Gibil Cad or Gibil Madow would agree with what I said.

No they don't, how would historical drawings show that when drawings show more stone buildings with Arab and Persian architecture than huts that gibil madows mostly resided in. 16th century none of the gibil madow from samaale qabiils existed , the earliest of them would be the silcis ones who came to the coast after their rule over their sultanate in the lama jiidle fell , majority of them count between 5-15 names to their progenitor that settled on the coast. You'll even see that most of them are named after their first progenitor that came from the interior to the coast like Reer Amiin Khalafow, Reer Oontirow, Reer Maxamud Jibril etc

Brother which census are you referring to and by who?

 

[Banadiri Warrior]

Brother which census are you referring to and by who?

Italian census , ignore the arrow

 

[Somali_patriotic]

He doesn't know the clans of all the alliances I listed them all, he was referring to whole alliances as if they're lineage qabiils, I don't see him naming the Bandhawow clans or Moorsho clans or Iskaashato clans or Dhabarweyne clans Or Saddex geedi clans or Yacquub clans or Reer maanyo clans.

He was quoting the census, What the census was claiming as gibil madow was added to gibil madow, while what was claimed as gibil cad was added to gibil cads
what were you quoting for your so-called alliances? How much they numbered?

I never claimed any minority be 50% . You're contradicting yourself by saying standalone clan. Any Banadiri Gibil Cad or Gibil Madow would agree with what I said.

Never said you did tho? Can you read what I've said?
The stand-alone qabiil I'm talking about is shanshiyo, are they a confederacy Of gibil cads and gibil madows?

No they don't, how would historical drawings show that when drawings show more stone buildings with Arab and Persian architecture than huts that gibil madows mostly resided in.

The architecture was never exclusively perisan nor arab, it was very diverse and could be found on other somali inhabited lands.
So more buildings=persian and arabs? Lol, was zaylac a majority persian and arab city? Why did they have white washed stone buildings? Why did the other coastal cities and some interior cities do aswell? Bad logic icl.
How come the minority who inhabited the huts were more commonly Potraited by literally everyone while the majority who inhabited the fancy buildings were never showen in historical drawings of the inhabitants of the city:

And much more (literally every illustration only illustare them)

16th century none of the gibil madow from samaale qabiils existed , the earliest of them would be the silcis ones who came to the coast after their rule over their sultanate in the lama jiidle fell , majority of them count between 5-15 names to their progenitor that settled on the coast.

Who were those who were the majority in the city during that time then?
In 16th century the inhabitants of mogadishu were black.
Actually the same description was given to zeila. Who were they then?
What you claim is contradicted by majority of explorers and travellers who actually went to the city and saw it's inhabitants.
The common outfit was maryooley aswell from the time immemorial, did y'all wear them?

 

[Banadiri Warrior]

He was quoting the census, What the census was claiming as gibil madow was added to gibil madow, while what was claimed as gibil cad was added to gibil cads
what were you quoting for your so-called alliances? How much they numbered?

Well the source he used was inaccurate and I corrected the mistakes of it in that post.

They didn't name all the clans that made up the alliances , for example for Iskaashato it just says Reer Sheikh Muumin, Caskarey and Indhoweyne( which itself is another confederacy). When in reality there's also Caydaruus, Shamsuddin, Reer Munye, Ba Mukhtar and Shaawush of Reer Maanyo.

Never said you did tho? Can you read what I've said?
The stand-alone qabiil I'm talking about is shanshiyo, are they a confederacy Of gibil cads and gibil madows?

shaanshi are gibil cad that's already known, In the census it says 1137 for Both Shaanshi and Dhabarweyne, Shaanshi themselves occupy 2 whole neighbourhoods while Dhabarweyne excluding Qalmashube occupy one . Out of the 1137 Gibil cads would definitely be 50/50 as there's also 1 Gibil Cad clan in Qalmashube who are Ba Qashwa. Currently Shaanshi would be much more bigger than they were back then

The architecture was never exclusively perisan nor arab, it was very diverse and could be found on other somali inhabited lands.
So more buildings=persian and arabs? Lol, was zaylac a majority persian and arab city? Why did they have white washed stone buildings? Why did the other coastal cities and some interior cities do aswell? Bad logic icl.
How come the minority who inhabited the huts were more commonly Potraited by literally everyone while the majority who inhabited the fancy buildings were never showen in historical drawings of the inhabitants of the city:
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And much more (literally every illustration only illustare them)

I never said the architecture was exclusively Arab and persian that would be for stone buildings only . Buildings in Zaylac weren't same as ones in Banaadir, similar architecture was only found across banaadir, bajuni and swahili coasts.

Since when were there drawings of the whole city to begin with for it to show the majority just little snippets of some events. Also the majority of darkskins were slaves so the reer samaale's were minority out of dark skins in general

Who were those who were the majority in the city during that time then?
In 16th century the inhabitants of mogadishu were black.
Actually the same description was given to zeila. Who were they then?
What you claim is contradicted by majority of explorers and travellers who actually went to the city and saw it's inhabitants.
The common outfit was maryooley aswell from the time immemorial, did y'all wear them?

Name the clans that descend from those so called blacks from 16th century then. Manuscripts mention presence of Arabs from as early as 2nd hijri century and Persians from as early as 6th hijri century, and all existing evidences such as gravesites, masaajid and neighbourhoods back this up, meanwhile no manuscript or local oral history backs up claim of few travelers.

Common outfit was the futa and thobes , maryooley attire was only common amongst gibil madow samaale's

 

[techsamatar]

Just a daily reminder Bandari's and modern arabised Persian Arabs have no relation to original Arabs Islamic facts upon the sunnah and racial history.

Cushitic's are semites from language to lineage, Canaan son of Cush son of sham son of Nuh, from complexion to geography and migration, And Kus/Kush/Cush is father of the Arabs as Ali ibn Talib narrated his lineage came from Kus.

Yall can go back to your qabil antics now, none can challenge me on statements I made I do not depend on guesswork especially from Kafir sources but first upon the deen and sunnah and scholars of the past then If kafir guesswork aligns with it then i take that as second source.