So you are saying Dir means “sent?” Ok, wouldn’t it be grammatically correct in Af Somali to say Webi Dir, instead of Webiga Dir.? Please answer this question.
‘Ga’ at the end in the Somali language has the same purpose as the English ‘The’ i.e ‘The Book’ = Buug-
ga.
For the Awash Abbay River connection, if you look at what Abbay means in Geysinan, it means “respected mother”. When you look at Awash, it means “the fathers.” The connection between the two rivers is more than a coincidence.
But you used ‘Dir’ to make a Harari claim on a specific excerpt of the Futuh concerning the Awash river, which is still known as the ‘River of Dir’ by the Somalis. I don’t get this side-quest of yours, as a river can have multiple names or meanings with different groups, what you highlighted above doesn’t link in any way with the passage of the Futuh you invoked earlier.
Akhi, have you not heard of something called intermarriage? Also in what way do they tie it to the Girri? What source?
You have one of the Girri knights of Imam Ahmed literally having that clan/locality as part of their name;
Ura‘i Šihāb ad-Dīn Gedayā Girri, who led them during the Conquest;
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The second division comprised the people of Hargāyā, and the people of Šawa, the companions of Kūšem whom he put under the command of Kūšem Nūr; the people of Hubat who were under Abu Bakr Qaṭin; and the people of Gedayā who were with their lord Ura‘i Šihāb ad-Dīn Gedayā Girri.” (Futuh - P.125)
That’s like saying if there is no mention of Somali language throughout history, then there would be no way of knowing they existed in the past. Somalis know they were present in Futuh not because it mentioned their language, but their ethnic group and tribes.
The difference here is the fact that any historic references about ancient or medieval Greater Somalia, with regards to a group of urban agro-pastoralists seafarers, describes the ancestors of the modern Somali people to a T. There was no major language shift, nor is there is any evidence that an alternative group lived on the Somali peninsula prior to its medieval designation as Barr es-Sumal. To accept your proposition is to also accept that this same mysterious group somehow ended up suffering a holocaust event at the hands of the Somali people.
If this had been truly the case, it would reflect on our genetics, our linguistics and our archaeology like it does with the old Greeks of Asia Minor, the Phoenicians of North Africa or the Celts of Europe in relation to the populations / groups that live there today. No such evidence exists in our case, only a direct continuum between the historic people and the modern people.
Harla had their tribes and locations mentioned, except Amir Nur burnt our lineage papers to get rid of nationalism at such an existential crisis.
Sultan Nur was ruler of Adal,
the whole of Adal. Why would he only outlaw clans in the city of Harar when his influence and mandate clearly extended far beyond that city?
Many groups claim ties to Harar, contrary to your belief. How else did Harar have high status amongst the Muslims of the Horn? How else did Harar survive its dark ages and it’s siege? It’s just that modern imperialist forces aka Britain destroyed all of our relationships while handing over Harar to Ethiopia.
No one denied that, perhaps you aren’t aware but I have never made it a secret that I would like to see a Harar that recaptures its past relevance and glory.
I never said Somalis weren’t relevant in Adal, in fact they were a key player in the politics of the country. Imam Ahmed is not noted to have been with Somalis in the countryside; in fact that was his opposition the Sultan. The Sultan had majority Somali support; Imam Ahmed had to get it from the farmers. He went from village to village on horse recruiting men.
Imam Ahmed retired amongst the Somalis after his dispute with Sultan Umar Din about the alms-tax. The Sultan you are referring to is Abu-Bakr.
Bro are you calling Zarba Somali?
It was literally mentioned that Zarba was Harla. It literally means “by the river.” Wild hoteping there buddy. Not to mention Imam’s brother was chieftain of Hargaya, one of the OG Harari families that still live to this day
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Do you dispute the Futuh ranking the Zarba amongst the Somali during the mobilisation for the Conquest? Here they are placed right after the Girri and just before the Marehan;
“Then the tribe of Zarba came up after them. Their chieftain was the sultan Muhammad, son of the paternal aunt of the imam. With him were one-thousand- and-sixty notable infantry, and forty knights. The imam made them welcome and showed them his favour. He [sultan Muhammad] resided at Harar. The imam was exceedingly delighted at this and gave thanks to the Most High God.” (Futuh - P. 43)
Not true, in the Land of Somalis it is mentioned Imam Ahmed marched on to their settlement in Kidad. There was a great mighty river there, and they attacked mid-day. The whole Somali = nomad theory to hotep Harla is invalid.
Its obvious that for your theory to work, the term
Somali in the Middle Ages would have to have had the exact same ethnic meaning as it does today. Its only then that you can play exclusionary ethnic politics with regards to the historical figures mentioned amongst and in the vicinity of other Somalis in the Futuh.
Its not ‘hotep’ when a primary source literally provides multiple concrete links between the Harla and the Somali. Its also not ‘hotep’ but in fact common knowledge that in Somali society there were occupational linked names such as the Tumal, the Bimal, and the Sumal, which only lends credence to Shimbiris’ thread. You are therefore misusing the word hotep.
For your theory to hold up against scrutiny you also have to ignore multiple other instances around the world, such as the case of the Arabs, where an ethnic name could also denote a occupational linked habit.
Bro stop the
. There is no such thing in Somali and Arabic
. Nice try there buddy. And if Harla are just Somalis with a slightly different dialect, then tell me what the war chant “Yahu, Yahu” means? Imam Ahmed used it in one of his expeditions before he mobilized Somali tribes.
“Ya Hu, Ya Hu” (O’ He, O’ He) is literally an Arabic poetic cry in reference to Allah (SWT) that was even used by the 13th century world renowned Rumi, a towering poet that the author of the Futuh was no doubt familiar with, and this cry is still in use with modern Dervishes. Its funny that you are invoking this as a some kind of ‘gotcha’ when it only emphasises that Adal and its leaders derived their legitimacy from Islam, and utilised the Arabic language to great effect.
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