Joe Rogan talks about inbreeding in the U.K

[AraragiKoyomi]

Don’t argue with this guy, he wants his kid to be retarded

All that for nyash. Dude is selfish. If you westerner you got access to all the pretty smart women. Why punish your descendents like that?

 

[Gacmeey]

I’m convinced y’all haven’t met people who have first cousin parents. They are normal people and look like humans and they don’t eat crayons for breakfast, I promise…

 

[AraragiKoyomi]

I’m convinced y’all haven’t met people who have first cousin parents. They are normal people and look like humans and they don’t eat crayons for breakfast, I promise…

They arent doctors and engineers thats for sure.

 

[MangoM]

They arent doctors and engineers thats for sure.

Ik one somali family where the parents are cousins 3/4 kids got a degree and all the boys are well rated in their estate so no punks or dumb guys by any means. the issue arise when your parents grandparents their parents are all cousins.

 

[Gacmeey]

Cousin marriage is permissible in Islam however continuous cousins marriage is discouraged by the great scholars as it can lead to deformity's and its considered bad adaab. Here is the perspective of the madhab of somalis shafi'i


Our ancestors had a taboo on cousin marriage until recently.

@Gacmeey your wrong on both accounts religious and cultural so just take the L ands stop promoting cousin marriages.

I never made a religious argument though let alone an argument on multi-generational cousin marriages. I will say that the prophet himself married his first cousin and Fatima r.a married her first cousin once removed. Make of that what you will

I’m talking about calling a one off cousin marriage as disgusting or deriding and calling the offspring of such marriages as stupid or ugly or saying they will come out with genetic defects. It’s unscientific and unislamic

 

[Gacmeey]

What Sspot thinks will happen if you have kids with your first cousin :

 

[Internet Nomad]

I never made a religious argument though let alone an argument on multi-generational cousin marriages. I will say that the prophet himself married his first cousin and Fatima r.a married her first cousin once removed. Make of that what you will

I’m talking about calling a one off cousin marriage as disgusting or deriding and calling the offspring of such marriages as stupid or ugly or saying they will come out with genetic defects. It’s unscientific and unislamic

In my statement i said its halal but I preferred for it not to be an encouraged thing.

 

[queasyian]

Sometimes inbreeding can reinforce positive traits and create super geniuses.

shoutout to the TARGARYENS Fire iiyo dhiig

 

[Abdirazaq]

Absolutely not. Inbreeding lowers intelligence, makes disease prevalent and it is not recommend in Islam.

Do not marry within the family [i.e., cousins], as that leads to children that are thin and weak.”

– “Do not marry within the family [i.e., cousins], since the child would be born thin and weak.”

– “Marry outside the family, lest the offspring be thin and weak.” [Ibn Hajar, Talkhis al-Habir]

Ibn Abi Mulaykah reported: Umar ibn al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, said to the house of Al-Sa’ib, “You have become frail, so marry intelligent people unrelated to you.”

Al-Shafi’i said, “Whenever the people of a household do not allow their women to marry men outside of their line, there will be fools among their children.”

Source: al-Talkhīṣ al-Ḥabīr 1371

From what I've seen on the internet most scholars admit that these narrations are weak and fabricated.

Otherwise show me strong sources for these narrations I couldn't find any at all.

 

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

I think successive cousin marriage is the reason then its get too similiar

 

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

@Avalanche @AraragiKoyomi Where is this irrational fear coming from ? Getting a bit suspicious at your reactions very strange. just dismissing things

 

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

What Sspot thinks will happen if you have kids with your first cousin :

This is the craziest thing I've watched today

 

[Abdirazaq]

Absolutely not. Inbreeding lowers intelligence, makes disease prevalent and it is not recommend in Islam.

Do not marry within the family [i.e., cousins], as that leads to children that are thin and weak.”

– “Do not marry within the family [i.e., cousins], since the child would be born thin and weak.”

– “Marry outside the family, lest the offspring be thin and weak.” [Ibn Hajar, Talkhis al-Habir]

Ibn Abi Mulaykah reported: Umar ibn al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, said to the house of Al-Sa’ib, “You have become frail, so marry intelligent people unrelated to you.”

Al-Shafi’i said, “Whenever the people of a household do not allow their women to marry men outside of their line, there will be fools among their children.”

Source: al-Talkhīṣ al-Ḥabīr 1371

In not saying they're wrong but they also don't come from Sahih al-Bukhari and muslim. I just found the source hard to find.

 

[Avalanche]

@Avalanche @AraragiKoyomi Where is this irrational fear coming from ? Getting a bit suspicious at your reactions very strange. just dismissing things

What do you mean? Is it because I'm opposed to 1st cousin marriage? It is a dangerous practice that should not be encouraged.

 

[AraragiKoyomi]

In not saying they're wrong but they also don't come from Sahih al-Bukhari and muslim. I just found the source hard to find.

Doesnt have to be an hadith from the Prophet peace upon him. I take inspiration from the salaf

 

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

What do you mean? Is it because I'm opposed to 1st cousin marriage? It is a dangerous practice that should not be encouraged.

thats where youre biases are. and we here trying to dicuss that but no, people are litteraly telling you facts behind them that this isnt dangerous unless if its done successively. making the genes even similar. But go on you and the anime person can keep spewing out whatever the TV tells you two. Morons

 

[Avalanche]

thats where youre biases are. and we here trying to dicuss that but no, people are litteraly telling you facts behind them that this isnt dangerous unless if its done successively. making the genes even similar. But go on you and the anime person can keep spewing out whatever the TV tells you two. Morons

It all starts innocently at first but can lead down a dangerous path. Stop advocating crap that can destroy your genes. It's hard to believe how uninformed some Somalis can be. Turn a blind eye to scientific studies and listen to jaad chewing clan leaders.

 

[AraragiKoyomi]

It all starts innocently at first but can lead down a dangerous path. Stop advocating crap that can destroy your genes. It's hard to believe how uninformed some Somalis can be. Turn a blind eye to scientific studies and listen to jaad chewing clan leaders.

How do these guys even know if they the product of inbreeding and they one cousin marriage away from permanently dooming their offsprings

 

[Abdirazaq]

Doesnt have to be an hadith from the Prophet peace upon him. I take inspiration from the salaf

All Sunni Muslims take inspiration from the Salaf, I just need the authentic source for the narrations you posted and scholars who can back them up, we’re way too uneducated to do this, considering theres people who spend their whole lives studying this.

If it doesn't come from Sahih al Bukhari and Muslim nor some of the other accepted hadith collections then you need to prove the narrations you posted as sound.

 

[Avalanche]

How do these guys even know if they the product of inbreeding and they one cousin marriage away from permanently dooming their offsprings

They unfortunately lack common sense.