Musa gives Ethiopia a port and a military base on the Gulf of Aden. It's over

[Bison]

Federalism is a cancer and almost suicidal when you are a weak country with poor institutions and stronger Neighbour enemy beside you

The whole Federal tribal political system is corrupted and is one imposed on us by external actors seeking to exploit Somalia. It hampers any national unity and impedes any consensus, reconciliation and long-term stability. There is a need to establish a new political system. With this tribal system in place, it will continue to hinder meritocracy and the rise of any capable individuals due to tribalism.

 

[Step a side]

To rely on the international community is wrong and weak! Ethiopia will do what they want. US and UK are just giving lip services to Somalia.

 

[Hilmaam]

HSM response so far militarily is lacking, I keep saying this, but think about any other Somali leader and what they would’ve done by now. He has the resources to send them over to Lughaya.

How can SNA get there? They can’t get past galmudug al shabab. On top Puntland won’t let sna soldiers cross into there land . Somaliland wont. DDs definitely won’t. You have very sunny outlook of federal govt capabilities.
Best we can do is smuggle arms to awdal through Djibouti or sea. Doubt Djibouti will allow our forces to attack from there land as they need Ethiopia more than anyone

 

[Bison]

The world is solely governed by brute power. The international law is solely implemented on those weak nations that's considered a enemy or disposable by the West, and abstained from themselves when they violate international law (west) and those they consider an ally. Like Israel.

 

[Arkan]

Burco next

Oromos apparently call Hargaysa "plant" in Af Oromo.

 

[Pastoralist]

How can SNA get there? They can’t get past galmudug al shabab. On top Puntland won’t let sna soldiers cross into there land . Somaliland wont. DDs definitely won’t. You have very sunny outlook of federal govt capabilities.
Best we can do is smuggle arms to awdal through Djibouti or sea. Doubt Djibouti will allow our forces to attack from there land as they need Ethiopia more than anyone

Your seeing it as different countries under a flag, they’re Somali who cares if they don’t allow it? Ethiopia taking land would be a bigger price to pay. When madoobe got up to kibir farmaajo sent troops into jubbaland and even sent SNA inside kenya which people though were AS.

if you raise any army from all provinces each province would have no choice but to let them through.

 

[Pastoralist]

But idc I see this as win-win. If we lose Lughaya it’s an L but at least HSM won’t be returning, and if HSM fends off Ethiopia militarily, then he secures re-election and our sovereignty has returned.

they have Soviet era weapons, these guys are weak. Don’t make excuses for him please

 

[RiceMuncher]

But idc I see this as win-win. If we lose Lughaya it’s an L but at least HSM won’t be returning, and if HSM fends off Ethiopia militarily, then he secures re-election and our sovereignty has returned.

they have Soviet era weapons, these guys are weak. Don’t make excuses for him please

An L? Nigga wey dhamaatey markaa finito. A xabashi who got your region from before taking a bite of the last piece sxb. We should all commit Seppuku. More honor in death than that.

 

[Keep it a boqol]

won’t be surprised if ethiopia starts taking action. These xabeshits denied the arab league statement. they’re going to take action in their own hands soon

These people are drunk on bravado and nationalism by any means necessarily don’t be surprised if a war breaks out

 

[Pastoralist]

An L? Nigga wey dhamaatey markaa finito. A xabashi who got your region from before taking a bite of the last piece sxb. We should all commit Seppuku. More honor in death than that.

Yes an L is an understatement. It’s modern day colonization at that point.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Your seeing it as different countries under a flag, they’re Somali who cares if they don’t allow it? Ethiopia taking land would be a bigger price to pay. When madoobe got up to kibir farmaajo sent troops into jubbaland and even sent SNA inside kenya which people though were AS.

if you raise any army from all provinces each province would have no choice but to let them through.

In the IGAD meeting, the US is urging dialogue because Somalia is dependent on Ethiopia for its security. They specifically mentioned that Somalia shouldn't remove Ethiopian troops and Ethiopia shouldn't withdraw them. Their only concern is stopping the insurgents becoming more powerful in the region which means any kind of armed conflict is off the table for HSM.

Times were different in Farmaajo's era because US had other interests - like state building in Somalia. They are now scaling back to just controling the insurgency even then they are forcing Somalia to take over with the end of ATMIS this year. It is the end of one era and the beginning of a new one.

 

[New World]

Title : What is the purpose of Ethiopian troops who went to Hargeisa?

is this true ?

It was reported that this incident occurred yesterday.

 

[RiceMuncher]

Times were different in Farmaajo's era because US had other interests - like state building in Somalia. They are now scaling back to just controling the insurgency even then they are forcing Somalia to take over with the end of ATMIS this year. It is the end of one era and the beginning of a new one.

Why would they lobby for the lifting of the arms embargo in that case? Or why are they spending millions building army bases for the SNA throughout the south?

Amentum Awarded $165 Million DoS Contracts to Improve National Security in Africa

Amentum was awarded U.S. Department of State (DoS) Africa Peacekeeping Program (AFRICAP) task orders to provide complex training and development in Benin as well as design, engineering and build management in multiple locations throughout Somalia.

www.amentum.com

They have built and refurbished 25 SNA armory facilities

Technical Difficulties

so.usembassy.gov

They have trained more than 2k Danab in the last year alone.

Technical Difficulties

so.usembassy.gov

Freedom is here to stay sxb.

 

[Arkan]

How can SNA get there? They can’t get past galmudug al shabab. On top Puntland won’t let sna soldiers cross into there land . Somaliland wont. DDs definitely won’t. You have very sunny outlook of federal govt capabilities.
Best we can do is smuggle arms to awdal through Djibouti or sea. Doubt Djibouti will allow our forces to attack from there land as they need Ethiopia more than anyone

The FGS could have smuggled arms and military personnel into the coastal areas of Awdal. Keep in mind that the coast of Awdal is where 250 armed ONLF militants attempted to pass through with the help of the locals after training in Eritrea.

There's nothing preventing the FGS from coordinating with Eritrea to replicate that scenario with the SNA. If a militia did it, what's stopping the FGS? There's just a lack of physical action.

Bear in mind, there's no "Somaliland" army anymore. SSC karbaashed them into smithereens. The FGS also showing more support and arming SSC could have deterred those remnants from Goojacade that were stationed in Toghdeer from entering Awdal in the first place.

 

[El Nino]

won’t be surprised if ethiopia starts taking action. These xabeshits denied the arab league statement. they’re going to take action in their own hands soon

These people are drunk on bravado and nationalism by any means necessarily don’t be surprised if a war breaks out

Hopefully they take action and do it massively. somalis won’t act unless they are threatened.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Why would they lobby for the lifting of the arms embargo in that case? Or why are they spending millions building army bases for the SNA throughout the south?

Amentum Awarded $165 Million DoS Contracts to Improve National Security in Africa

Amentum was awarded U.S. Department of State (DoS) Africa Peacekeeping Program (AFRICAP) task orders to provide complex training and development in Benin as well as design, engineering and build management in multiple locations throughout Somalia.

www.amentum.com

They have trained more than 2k Danab in the last year alone.

Like I said, Somalia is taking over from ATMIS at the end of the year not now. They need to replace 22K troops and all the armor (heavy weapons- tanks, artillery, apcs) they will be losing when ATMIS withdraws. Most of that training and arming will happen this year. It's a sink or swim moment for Somalia.

 

[Keep it a boqol]

Hopefully they take action and do it massively. somalis won’t act unless they are threatened.

ye as long as the cards are all aligned and ready to go as it would f*ck up shitoptia royally

 

[Pastoralist]

In the IGAD meeting, the US is urging dialogue because Somalia is dependent on Ethiopia for its security. They specifically mentioned that Somalia shouldn't remove Ethiopian troops and Ethiopia shouldn't withdraw them. Their only concern is stopping the insurgents becoming more powerful in the region which means any kind of armed conflict is off the table for HSM.

Times were different in Farmaajo's era because US had other interests - like state building in Somalia. They are now scaling back to just controling the insurgency even then they are forcing Somalia to take over with the end of ATMIS this year. It is the end of one era and the beginning of a new one.

Sure then the troops engaging al shabaab should stay there, however those that want to fight should be allowed to go to awdal. If HSM does an emergency draft I promise you there would be tens of thousands of Somalis willing to fight off Ethiopia. The only challenging part would be establishing supply lines. The president seems more focused on asking others for help instead of readying the nation for what’s to come.

 

[RiceMuncher]

Like I said, Somalia is taking over from ATMIS at the end of the year not now. They need to replace 22K troops and all the armor (heavy weapons- tanks, artillery, apcs) they will be losing when ATMIS withdraws. Most of that training and arming will happen this year. It's a sink or swim moment for Somalia.

This was exactly the strategy from the FG if you look at their actions. From the president to the PM have said it at the top of their lungs. Somalia will go to war with the xabasho and neglect the war they spent so much resources on.

The IC have to pick the most appropriate course for the HoA. One where Somalia wins the war on terror and have control of their borders including the sea. Or one where a neighbour can at the whim of their grandiose leader do whatever the f they want with no respect for rules of sovereignty. Forgetting they are the most vulnerable for balkanisation.

 

[Keep it a boqol]

This was exactly the strategy from the FG if you look at their actions. From the president to the PM have said it at the top of their lungs. Somalia will go to war with the xabasho and neglect the war they spent so much resources on.

The IC have to pick the most appropriate course for the HoA. One where Somalia wins the war on terror and have control of their borders including the sea. Or one where a neighbour can at the whim of their grandiose leader do whatever the f they want with no respect for rules of sovereignty. Forgetting they are the most vulnerable for balkanisation.

IC won’t let it stand by as it would cause a huge insurgency of al shabaab recruits imo. they would much want to contain the insurgency of al shabaab and keep somalis borders then to let a rogue aggressive ethiopia who’s on the threat of balkanization do what it wants