Salafi Community Continues To Grow In The UK

[Journey.]

I know that salafis is a break off branch of the sunni branch, can anyone tell me how exactly different they are from us sunni? What makes them terrible? I'm a bit confused

Salafi isn't a break off from Ahlus Sunnah wa'l-Jamaa'ah (i.e., those who follow the Sunnah and stick to the Jamaa'ah).

"Salafi" refers to those who follow the Salafi Manhaj (methodology). The Salafi Manhaj = following the Qur'an and Sunnah according to the understanding of the Salaf (i.e., the first three generations of Muslims). This is because of the hadith of the Prophet ﷺ that states:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said: "The best people are those of my generation, and then those who will come after them (the next generation), and then those who will come after them (i.e. the next generation), and then after them, there will come people whose witness will precede their oaths, and whose oaths will precede their witness."

[Sahih Bukhari, 6429]

They had the best understanding of Islam as they were either contemporaries and students of the Prophet ﷺ or closest in time to him (and studied from his ﷺ companions or their students).

Salafis reject anything later introduced into the religion that does not go back to the first three generations mentioned by the Prophet ﷺ. The reason for rejecting later introduced matters being this hadith of the Prophet ﷺ:

It was narrated that Jabir bin 'Abdullah said: "In his Khutbah the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) used to praise Allah as He deserves to be praised, then he would say: 'Whomsoever Allah (SWT) guides, none can lead him astray, and whomsoever Allah sends astray, none can guide. The truest of word is the Book of Allah and best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad. The worst of things are those that are newly invented; every newly-invented thing is an innovation and every innovation is going astray, and every going astray is in the Fire.'

[Sunan An-Nasaa'i, 1578]

This is the main contention between them and Muslims who aren't upon this methodology and therefore follow practices that appeared later in Islamic history, e.g., Mawlid.

 

[Lebron James]

salafis think university is haram

 

[BLM]

Bro, my position is this, the only Muslim sect I have come across to openly declare other Muslims as Jaahil or apostates, are the Salafi. I have never come across another sect like this, no matter how much I disagreed with them.

A Salafis number one goal is to undermine/discredit other Muslims, a European on the other hand, whether Christian Anglican or Protestant, would never ally with a Muslim against his Christian opponent, that's the main crux of my issue, Salafis live and breath to undermine other Muslims, and will ally with Kuffars to achieve their agenda.

Open and closeted apostates are agreeing with you and every anti Salafi here. You would crucify a Salafi for calling this out so who’s the one allying with non Muslims? Refer to the drawing of the Prophet at a university thread from a few days ago and see who was indifferent to what happened or even for what happened. The guy named rapist is against Islam and he started this thread. Go through his post history and any Muslim can see that he’s not Muslim. I’ll probably get attacked for pointing this out. At the end of the day any Muslim however misguided they are is better than a non Muslim. Every Salafi believes this and every non Salafi should believe this. You can always find a case of a self proclaimed Muslim who hates Salafis saying a non Muslim is closer to them than a Salafi but you’ll never see a Salafi utter that about people they believe to be Muslim such as some Sufis. Someone brought up Shias when they’re disbelievers. If you meant Zaydis then people don’t even know they exist so which Salafi is siding with non Muslims against Zaydis? That’s all I have to say.

 

[Hmohamed54]

I will respond to you later, but for now I want to respond to your statement that Adel al Kalbani is a deviant. Kalbani was elected to the highest seat in all of Islam by salafis and you call him a deviant on what grounds. He was the Imam of Mecca. Who are you to say he is a deviant and does not represent the salafi school of thoughts. That is like a Catholic saying the pope does not speak for Catholicism. Although he is a salafi, I respect him for his honesty and admitting what is obvious to everyone.

What if the Saudi government firced him to do this? They themselves are crooked.

 

[Qeelbax]

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Rashid isn't muslim, why are twitter screenshots relevant?

 

[Journey.]

Open and closeted apostates are agreeing with you and every anti Salafi here.

I wonder why they think that is.

You'll find the same thing happening with anti-Ummah and Arab bashing threads; they join forces with apostates and liberal fasiq Muslims (at best, munafiqeen at worst - I'm talking about people who openly and unabashedly reject established Islamic rulings and always promote liberal views and values instead) to encourage division in the Ummah and hate on other Muslims (e.g., Arabs). They don't stop to wonder what possible agenda these groups have and how they're helping them against themselves. This is what happens when you lead with emotions/whims instead of overriding it with following the deen.

 

[Shk_ljh”630]

Salafis are the true real danger to Islam

Facts brother

 

[jemappelle]

Hes not wrong, the entire country from primary to university is a breeding ground for unislamic views and practices.
I don't know how you can disagree with him.
Plus he never said university is haram

 

[Lebron James]

Hes not wrong, the entire country from primary to university is a breeding ground for unislamic views and practices.
I don't know how you can disagree with him.
Plus he never said university is haram

Why doesn't he advise these youths to move to muslim countries then if theres so much fitnah and brainwashing. Why stay somewhere you keep insulting ?

 

[jemappelle]

Why doesn't he advise these youths to move to muslim countries then if theres so much fitnah and brainwashing. Why stay somewhere you keep insulting ?

Ok, so you are telling me there is not fitna in the west?

Second of all, how are you going to tell, a 13 or 14 or 17 year old kid to move to a Muslim country, be practical, plus even Muslim countries have there own problems, it isn't as black and white as you make it to be, of course you will post a short clip of his llecture to fuel your agenda agaisnt "salafis".

I am concerned at the fact that you see no problem with living in the west for a Muslim

 

[Hotchick12]

I know that salafis is a break off branch of the sunni branch, can anyone tell me how exactly different they are from us sunni? What makes them terrible? I'm a bit confused

They takfir majority Muslims, if you don’t dress like them and act like them you are kaffir

 

[Hotchick12]

London and Birmingham. It seems like marrying an ajanabi is a tenet of Salafism

Most of those Somali girls going against their parents for an Ajnabi was a Salafiyyah

 

[Lebron James]

Ok, so you are telling me there is not fitna in the west?

Second of all, how are you going to tell, a 13 or 14 or 17 year old kid to move to a Muslim country, be practical, plus even Muslim countries have there own problems, it isn't as black and white as you make it to be, of course you will post a short clip of his llecture to fuel your agenda agaisnt "salafis".

I am concerned at the fact that you see no problem with living in the west for a Muslim

Then move, tell their families to move. Complaining everyday yet staying in the west sounds like a fucked up life to live. That lecturer is a grown ass man he could dip but yet he stays.

 

[Omar del Sur]

They takfir majority Muslims, if you don’t dress like them and act like them you are kaffir

what style of dress constitutes apostasy? what Salafi scholars are going around declaring people as kaffirs based on not dressing a certain way?

it's interesting how much anti-Salafi rhetoric consists of lying and making stuff up

this is yet another really bad argument against Salafiyyah.

 

[Camaar]

Salafis like to do takfiri a lot, the other day i watch a video in which one of their sheikh was saying tablighis are one of the sect that will enter jahanam.

 

[jemappelle]

Then move, tell their families to move. Complaining everyday yet staying in the west sounds like a fucked up life to live. That lecturer is a grown ass man he could dip but yet he stays.

Your arrogance is coming through the screen, first of all he has already talked about the topic of hijra, he moved to egypt and they kicked him out, threatened to send him to prison where he would get Graped, he talked about how even Muslim countries are messed up, you can never escape the fitna, I don't understand what your talking about, if you live around fitna, would you not talk about it as much as possible
seems like you live life with rose-tinted glasses on, big surprise, the west is not the best environment for Muslims to be around, we can be easily effected and go down the wrong path, it is neccesary to mention the fitna that we have and address the issues in our society, life isn't black and white, just because you don't like the country you live in doesn't mean its easy to just move out of there straight away, even if there was a better country to live in.
It isn't easy to tell a whole community to move to another country, your either a teenager or stupid.

 

[Lebron James]

Your arrogance is coming through the screen, first of all he has already talked about the topic of hijra, he moved to egypt and they kicked him out, threatened to send him to prison where he would get Graped, he talked about how even Muslim countries are messed up, you can never escape the fitna, I don't understand what your talking about, if you live around fitna, would you not talk about it as much as possible
seems like you live life with rose-tinted glasses on, big surprise, the west is not the best environment for Muslims to be around, we can be easily effected and go down the wrong path, it is neccesary to mention the fitna that we have and address the issues in our society, life isn't black and white, just because you don't like the country you live in doesn't mean its easy to just move out of there straight away, even if there was a better country to live in.
It isn't easy to tell a whole community to move to another country, your either a teenager or stupid.

I'm not stupid just logical, I'm not the one crying about the west 24/7 while willingly living in it.

Just hypocrisy with a bunch of excuses to back it, we live in gaalo countries they wont bend their way of life for us same way muslim countries won't bend their way of live for gaals. Why complain ? If anyone has an issue with it move back home to Somalia.

 

[Hotchick12]

The Somali salafis in the U.K. are often extreme..a lot of them went to Syria and honestly they hate being Somali! Also many are unemployed and worship Arabs who hate them.

They are on benefits most of the time to always preach on street corners, how do the men don’t have shame, taking money from a country they despise

 

[Hotchick12]

The salafi ideology cult has since its founding been supported by the west. From the British who supported Wahhab against the Ottomans to Present day Saudi Arabia who used the petro dollars given to them by their US overlords to weaken the ummah. Salafism grew not because it was popular, far from it. It grew because the West and their puppets saw it was a useful tool to control muslims and pumped money into it.

And made Muslim blood halal, that’s primarily the reason, majority of suicides bombings have happened in Muslim countries

 

[jemappelle]

I'm not stupid just logical, I'm not the one crying about the west 24/7 while willingly living in it.

Just hypocrisy with a bunch of excuses to back it, we live in gaalo countries they wont bend their way of life for us same way muslim countries won't bend their way of live for gaals. Why complain ? If anyone has an issue with it move back home to Somalia.

They live in the west for a multitude of reasons, its not easy for people to just make hijra, especially when there are no better options.

The problem is there way of life is effecting us, whats the problem with mentioning it.
Next thing you are going to tell me we shouldn't be complaining about murder and drugs