Should the federal states each secede?

[Cognitivedissonance]

Where the hell have i preached democracy idiot, i dont even believe in democracy and i don't eat khat!!

You don't me and just cause i am against your dreams of a united somalia you gonna kill me well i'll be in somalia next month please come and kill me

Why are you against a United Somalia? Isn't that the SSDF flag on your avatar? You do know that those men believed in a United Somalia right?

 

[Canuck]

The haqq is like daggers to the hearts of nationalists and the tribal secessionists. I am definitely an ethnic Somali and no minority. You can call me terrorist or khawarij or any of the things you like but that will not make take away from the hard truth that I post. We are in the times were Ahlus Sunnah are seen as extremists and radicals these days so your reactions are understandable.

“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

 

[Tucking_Fypo]

Why are you against a United Somalia? Isn't that the SSDF flag on your avatar? You do know that those men believed in a United Somalia right?

Not all of them bro

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Not all of them bro

Can you please elaborate?

 

[Canuck]

The haqq is like daggers to the hearts of nationalists and the tribal secessionists. I am definitely an ethnic Somali and no minority. You can call me terrorist or khawarij or any of the things you like but that will not make take away from the hard truth that I post. We are in the times were Ahlus Sunnah are seen as extremists and radicals these days so your reactions are understandable.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Not all of them bro

What does that Arabic writing say?

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

@Damu boowe where did you go? Adigo mudan please tell me why Somalis shouldn't be united?

 

[Sufiyan]

Where the hell have i preached democracy idiot, i dont even believe in democracy and i don't eat khat!!

You don't me and just cause i am against your dreams of a united somalia you gonna kill me well i'll be in somalia next month please come and kill me

Why did you dislike my post where I was telling that open enemy of Islam to 'f*ck his democracy??? The whole concept of modern day secession and especially the one you are pushing comes from the ideology of the 'will of the people' which is at its core a fundamental principle of democracy. What if the will of the people is exactly in line with what I stated and they do not want to disunite??? Will you then concede or will you raise a standing army and force your secession??? Answer that question.

In Islam there is no democracy. Full stop. Anything that threatens the state and people and their collective interests must forcibly be subdued and brought to justice. No debate or naseehah. Do you understand and respect this fundamental understanding or will you mock it with more 'keyboard warrior' pics??? I have no intention of putting you out of your khat ridden misery for that is against the rules in this forum and I am sure that drug will do the job itself one day. But when the true mujahideen with the correct aqeedah come to bring back justice and peace through the deen to the region and you get in their way because you want secession of your dusty little tuulo then prepare to be among the losers in both this life and there hereafter is all Im sayin'.

 

[Tucking_Fypo]

Can you please elaborate?

Some of the members had never seen a somali government as the admin never reached all areas of our regions and some had seen the horries done to our people in jubba, mudug, nugaal and bari from 72 to 91 and had enough, some wanted the old system back instead of the atheist communist ideology.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Some of the members had never seen a somali government as the admin never reached all areas of our regions and some had seen the horries done to our people in jubba, mudug, nugaal and bari from 72 to 91 and had enough, some wanted the old system back instead of the atheist communist ideology.

Bradar stop beating around the bush you know damn well what I mean, stop eluding my questions.

 

[Tucking_Fypo]

@sufyan you are a coward and real muslims fear only god, stop your threats cus you will never ever amount to anything. How can i take you serious when you live in the west acting hard behind a screen i eat your types for breakfast without breaking a sweat dude

 

[Canuck]

The haqq is like daggers to the hearts of nationalists and the tribal secessionists. I am definitely an ethnic Somali and no minority. You can call me terrorist or khawarij or any of the things you like but that will not make take away from the hard truth that I post. We are in the times were Ahlus Sunnah are seen as extremists and radicals these days so your reactions are understandable.

Al khawarij have existed since the very early period of Islam and they will continue to cause strife in the Muslim nation until the end of time when they will join forces with the False Messiah (dajjal).

 

[Sufiyan]

“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Your quote is off. I do not come to you nationalists and tribal secessionists with soothing words as sheep in wolf's clothing do. Rather I am your open enemy and come brandishing a sword. There is no compromise or hesitation in my words in this topic as you can see. You are either in the camp of iman or the camp of kufr. It really is that simple and black and white.

 

[Tucking_Fypo]

Bradar stop beating around the bush you know damn well what I'm eluding to.

I told you why some never believed or stopped believing in Somalia.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

I told you why some never believed or stopped believing in Somalia.

Why don't you want to see a United Somalia?

 

[Tucking_Fypo]

Why don't you want to see a United Somalia?

Because i believe my people are better of on their own,

 

[Canuck]

Your quote is off. I do not come to you nationalists and tribal secessionists with soothing words as sheep in wolf's clothing do. Rather I am your open enemy and come brandishing a sword. There is no compromise or hesitation in my words in this topic as you can see. You are either in the camp of iman or the camp of kufr. It really is that simple and black and white.

Anas ibn Malik reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “There will be division and sectarianism in my nation and a people (the Kharijites) will come with beautiful words and evil deeds. They will recite the Quran but it will not pass beyond their throats. They will leave the religion as an arrow leaves its target and they will not return to it as the arrow does not return to its bow. They are the worst of the creation. Blessed are those who fight them and are killed by them. They call to the Book of Allah but they have nothing to do with it. Whoever fights them is better to Allah than them.”

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

Because i believe my people are better of on their own,

I take it you're mj? So your people live in ogadenia, Puntland & jubaland right? Or do they just live in one place? Say for example Puntland?

 

[Sufiyan]

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Wallah these people are hopeless subhanallah. You don't even know what group of people that hadith applies to you do you???

You know you are upon the haqq when the homosexual advocates, the modernists, the munafiqeen, and all other deviants call you extremist and khawarij when you are preaching nothing but Ahlus Sunnah. Islam started off as something strange and will once again be strange to the masses as the nabi salllallahu alayhi wa sallam said.

 

[Canuck]

Wallah these people are hopeless subhanallah. You don't even know what group of people that hadith applies to you do you???

You know you are upon the haqq when the homosexual advocates, the modernists, the munafiqeen, and all other deviants call you extremist and khawarij when you are preaching nothing but Ahlus Sunnah. Islam started off as something strange and will once again be strange to the masses as the nabi salllallahu alayhi wa sallam said.

I am straight but lived my life in Middle East where I studied Islam history and countries since grade 1 to 12 and Muslim but you are victim of extremists.

Narrated / Authority Of: Abu Zubair
that Jabir bin Abdullah said: “The Messenger of Allah (saw) was in Jiranah and he was distributing gold nuggets and spoils of war which were in Bilal's lap. A man said: 'Do justice, O Muhammad (SAW)! For you have not done justice!' He said: 'Woe to you! Who will do justice after me if I do not do justice?' Umar said: 'O Messenger of Allah! Let me strike the neck of this hypocrite!' The Messenger of Allah (saw) said: 'This man has some companions who recite the Quran but it does not go any deeper than their collarbones. They will pass through Islam like an arrow passing through its target.'” (Sahih)