Somali teen stabbed to death in Toronto

[canjeeroiyoshah]

@AbdiJohnson is always trying to paint the wrong picture about Somalis every chance he gets. Being classified an untouchable by your own people is a test from Allah but instead of being patient you left the religion and your on here 24/7 badmouthing us.

The young man was killed by Indians not Somalis.

 

[paragon]

AUN to the kid. I know nothing about their way of life since I'm across the pond. What I do know about Somalis that fall off is that most of you are right.

1. Lack of a cohesive community.
2. Herd mentality among the youth.
3. Lower income communities are pack mules for drugs "someone has to be the low man on the totem pole." In America it was once Italians, Jews and the Irish now its mostly African Americans". Someone else must fill that vacancy to keep the global drug smuggling operation going.
   
4. Parenting style focuses on girls while giving freedom to boys.
   
5. Parents might not know language and have limited education.
6. Father absent from the home or emotionally unavailable if present (some not all).
7. Some parents neglect their children while choosing to let them raise each other.
8. Siblings live individualistic lives and do not influence each other for the "better". It always amazed me how one bro or sis could be a doctor and another one in and out of jail. Something is not right with that picture.

You can add to to the list if you want but it's true.

 

[Tramo]

From my observation of the indha yar. They have a lot of tutoring centers and programs that cater to their ethnic group. I know a gabar she used to go to a Korean tutoring center right after school. I didn't even know it existed? There's apparently a Chinese college near my house in the lower half of a center. I was like "?", and then I knocked on the door it was apparently closed that day. Then I went on the website and it was all in Chinese. I remember in upper half of a building they had a Korean store, it offered Korean ESL classes and within that place there was a technical computer class as well. You wouldn't have known it's existed because the fliers on the top are Korean. They have a lot of Korean stores I observe in my area, but most of the shet they sell is counterfeit products, and no one goes there. There was actually a boutique I remember going to and it had really nice shoes and pants, but like what the f*ck everything was like $100 and more. I can find the same type of clothes elsewhere in a much cheaper price. They love to rip each other off. They're also xasids in my opinion. Most the indha yar have white girl names like Brittany, Elizabeth ,Angie and Amy. I'm not sure if it's because they're largely Christian or if that's just a thing amongst them. Growing up with many indha yar, a lot of them used to cheat in school, they also don't seem to have a moral backbone whatseoever. I mean some of them are chill, but some of them are disturbed. I knew one indha yar kid he had all A's and was a smart kid, he started involving himself in hard core drugs. You might question how can be doing so well, but involving himself in drugs? I don't think I'd ever see a Somali change their name like that too, even it was hard to pronounce, I can imagine one getting criticized for it. I mean when indha yar came here, they were seen as immoral and strange, even weird looking, but over time they've become a respectable community. I don't believe Somalis largely as an ethnic community are trouble or are troubled people as minorities, but I don't know much about the communities in Toronto- I mean I can think of worst people, those communities have been there longer in my opinion, but they've been predisposed to the culture and the communities. Like the latinos for example some of them are worse then Black Americans. I mean you see a lot of illegal ones, stories of them raping women living in housing projects through illegal means. lol, I remember growing up my mom if she saw one of them or was passing by some of them in the alleys, she'd say walk fast or something. Once, I saw lots of them drinking alcohol near the woods in my house, and this route was the only way for me to go home, now they're were 10 of them. But I ran through as fast as I could. Most of the kids who would get pregnant first were them, some of them don't know the practice of chastity, whatseoever. They're born through bastard means. When I would go to school, I'd see lots of broken glass beer bottles. Everytime, I go to a convinience I see the illegal minorities who barely known english stack up on tons of beer. This doesn't apply to all of them, but the ones straight of the border who have come here through illegal means particularly the men. Some of them want a better life, but some of them are twisted motherfuckers. Some of them didn't last past seventh grade until getting suspension of some type ,into crime or getting pregnant. Even in their countries they're are gang wars. I mean most of my peers are first generation Somalis. Somalis haven't been in the West as long, but recently I saw a Somali learning institute in D.C., caters in Somali language and culture. But the class is $105, but I would like to sign up for it. There's also a dugsi in our area, which is hotspot for many parents, each student is like $400, and the center is fairly small. It's owned by a Somali man . But one of the students had the honor of going to Saudi Arabia I think in competing in some type of Qur'an recitation contest. Somalis in our community are respectable bunch. I mean when Indha yar started coming here, people thought of them as parasites who steal everything and who eat dogs and cats, with absolutely no morals, but over time they've become a respected community. Slowly, I see such organizations catering to Muslims and Somalis in our area. Recently, there was a mentorship program created in our community for the several Muslims in our area, because you see Jews and indha yar having communities like that; it's aims is to link the several mosque in our area together as a type of connection network to help Muslim students in terms of their career choices in the future. I'm sure if you asked someone about Somalis here from an ajanabi, I think they wouldn't have anything negative to say. Personally, I've never been discriminated against for my race or culture. Also, the Somalis here like to talk a lot and hate on you. I mean if you f*ck up, they'll tell your hooyo and they snitch fast. Somalis are a bit upfront too. If you don't wear hijab or abayo, their going to be like that gabar walks around naked. (maybe I stretched from the topic a bit lol, but I just had free time and wanted to speak on my own experiences, )

u make some great points but waxaas oo dhan waxaa ka horaya the fact that asians just don't live in high risk neighborhoods in the first place. there are almost zero asians in these areas, and the ones that do live there are just as caught up as their Somali peers

im just dying that this y2k, born in the ps2 era ass, Ben 10 nigga @Geeljire is tryna claim otherwise with a straight face like he knows this shit for a fact

 

[Bernie Madoff]

u make some great points but waxaas oo dhan waxaa ka horaya the fact that asians just don't live in high risk neighborhoods in the first place. there are almost zero asians in these areas, and the ones that do live there are just as caught up as their Somali peers

im just dying that this y2k, born in the ps2 era ass, Ben 10 nigga @Geeljire is tryna claim otherwise with a straight face like he knows this shit for a fact

 

[Kaafiye]

@AbdiJohnson is always trying to paint the wrong picture about Somalis every chance he gets. Being classified an untouchable by your own people is a test from Allah but instead of being patient you left the religion and your on here 24/7 badmouthing us.

The young man was killed by Indians not Somalis.

Exactly.

Two Indians stabbed the boy to death within walking distance from his own house. AUN to the victim.

 

[Kaafiye]

And regarding this debate, it seems to be that the biggest issue facing Somali boys in Canada is the peer pressure, and the negative influence that bad friends can play on you. I've seen a few bad apples spoil a bunch, and before you know it we start to see good Somali boys from good families go down the wrong path because of the negative influences surrounding them. It becomes contagious.

Every kid wants to fit in and then they eventually start to imitate each other in engaging in dangerous behavior. It's all very tragic.

 

[Geeljire]

u make some great points but waxaas oo dhan waxaa ka horaya the fact that asians just don't live in high risk neighborhoods in the first place.there are almost zero asians in these areas, and the ones that do live there are just as caught up as their Somali peers

Actually a lot of them do live in the same neighborhoods as somalis in San Diego and LA , which i think is where @sgtbenadir lives especially in San Diego there is a huge cad cad population there and a Vietnamese/koreans and chinese people.

And like @SgtBanadir said a lot of Indha yars are very organized and make tutoring centers for their youth.

From my observation of the indha yar. They have a lot of tutoring centers and programs that cater to their ethnic group. I know a gabar she used to go to a Korean tutoring center right after school. it offered Korean ESL classes and within that place there was a technical computer class as well. You wouldn't have known it's existed because the fliers on the top are Korean. They have a lot of Korean stores

They actually really do invest in their youths teach them their culture and such. While living in the same neighborhoods as Somalis.

And you wouldn't see many of them compared to somalis take after the urban culture disease like Mexicans and AAs. They are largely trying to run their business and educate their youth and work as unit..

I went there and saw it for myself. We both speak from experience, yet who is right is subjective.

 

[Geeljire]

And regarding this debate, it seems to be that the biggest issue facing Somali boys in Canada is the peer pressure, and the negative influence that bad friends can play on you. I've seen a few bad apples spoil a bunch, and before you know it we start to see good Somali boys from good families go down the wrong path because of the negative influences surrounding them. It becomes contagious.

Every kid wants to fit in and then they eventually start to imitate each other in engaging in dangerous behavior. It's all very tragic.

Thats what i saw when i was in LA and San Diego. I sometimes get choked up when i see a Somali mother sit at home crying and continuesly bailing out her druggie son.

One Somali guy managed to clean up his act and started to join us at the dugsis and the Mosque. Cuz there are many of them somali owned at the place I was staying at. We was all happy for him and then he went back to the urban street life , it was really tragic to see.

 

[Tramo]

we're not talking about san diego, we're talking about toronto here. horta ma wax baa kaa dhiman?

first it was an incontrovertible truth, now it's 'subjective' . also @ from experience? what experience, a 2 month holiday in white ass san diego? you are a joke wallahi

 

[Geeljire]

we're not talking about san diego, we're talking about toronto here. horta ma wax baa kaa dhiman?

first it was an incontrovertible truth, now it's 'subjective' . also @ from experience? what experience, a 2 month holiday in white ass san diego? you are a joke wallahi

Sand Diego is not white ass, where somalis live there are almost no whites and mostly bunch of AAs vietnamese/koreans and majority Mexicans. This is where @SgtBanadir was speaking from or did you think she was talking about Toronto? you numnutt.


If Toronto is what is being spoken of then answer to what @Kaafiye just said he lives in Toronto he just confirmed me.

 

[Geeljire]

What a dent he agrees with @SgtBanadir thinking she was talking about Toronto!



She even told him the biz of them living in the same neighborhoods as somalis, yet still being more organized and less into urban culture. He just nodded like a bumbling fool thinking she agreed with him.

 

[CrazyWadaad]

@AbdiJohnson is always trying to paint the wrong picture about Somalis every chance he gets. Being classified an untouchable by your own people is a test from Allah but instead of being patient you left the religion and your on here 24/7 badmouthing us.

The young man was killed by Indians not Somalis.

West end does have a lot of Sikhs and those guys are fucked up so it might be true

 

[Bernie Madoff]

West end does have a lot of Sikhs and those guys are fucked up so it might be true

You from tdot to?

 

[Bernie Madoff]

What a dent he agrees with @SgtBanadir thinking she was talking about Toronto!



She even told him the biz of them living in the same neighborhood as somalis, yet still being more organized and less into urban culture. He just nodded like a bumbling fool thinking she agreed with him.

Unless you experienced the society out here.. then you shouldn't be talking about it.

 

[Tramo]

What a dent he agrees with @SgtBanadir thinking she was talking about Toronto!



She even told him the biz of them living in the same neighborhoods as somalis, yet still being more organized and less into urban culture. He just nodded like a bumbling fool thinking she agreed with him.

i know she's not talking about toronto training wheels on ur tricycle ass nigga, the same applies to asians there too. the only difference is, asians don't live in the areas mentioned...which is why i pointed it out to her

@Kaafiye just confirmed what u've been trying to oppose this whole time, that it's peer pressure that leads to all of this. @paragon hit the nail on the head too, in more depth...but ur tunnel-visioned as usual yelling hurr hip-hop culture durr anti-intellectualism *insert more buzzwords here*

i understand peer pressure might be a foreign concept to you, you'd need to have peers first before you can understand it, but i assure you that it's not something easy to escape especially in dangerous areas. it's easy for you on the outside looking in to stoke ur non existent beard and pontificate on how destructive that lifestyle and can come up with lame ass hypotheseses because there's no pressure on you to conform to it

 

[paragon]

Koreans, Vietnamese, Chinese, Indians, Filipinos people come from cultures that are socially cohesive, which acts as a defense mechanism of getting involved with gang-related crime, even if they are involved it's higher up and they keep their mouths closed. They also have a long history in America unlike Somalis that came mostly in the 90s-00s. lol. I have yet to hear of a Somalis and their extended families living under the same roof in the suburbs paying off each home together like a hagbad until all of them have a house of their own. We're not that close knitted. Would be nice if we were though. We have knack for business so it would have worked in our favour. kkkkkkkk We'd start a war between families if that happened.

 

[CrazyWadaad]

You from tdot to?

Ye bro,I live near Abu Huraira.Many Isaaqs and other reer woqooyi in my area

 

[Bernie Madoff]

Ye bro,I live near Abu Huraira.Many Isaaqs and other reer woqooyi in my area

Lol then must have mutual friends i know many people who go to that mosque. I used to live scarborough teesdale to be exact.

 

[CrazyWadaad]

Koreans, Vietnamese, Chinese, Indians, Filipinos people come from cultures that are socially cohesive, which acts as a defense mechanism of getting involved with gang-related crime, even if they are involved it's higher up and they keep their mouths closed. They also have a long history in America unlike Somalis that came mostly in the 90s-00s. lol. I have yet to hear of a Somalis and their extended families living under the same roof in the suburbs paying off each home together like a hagbad until all of them have a house of their own. We're not that close knitted. kkkkkkkk We'd start a war between families if that happened.

Somalis even in the diaspore be beefin over qabilist.Which is we could never have a real community centre since a certain Qabil would try to hijack the leadership

 

[CrazyWadaad]

Lol then must have mutual friends i know many people who go to that mosque. I used to live scarborough teesdale to be exact.

Teesdale near Vp and Danforth?
We must know the same people for sure walaal