Somalia Is A Arab Nation

[hinters]

Not true.
There are so many Somalis who does not speak a word of Somali, does that make them non-Somali? Humans evolve.

Well not literally down to the individual.

A latino person in the US born to mexican parents that does not speak spanish is still Latino.

They are still somali.

But across Somalia, there are not and there have almost never been places were Arabic is spoken as a daily vernacular except by immigrants or descendants of immigrants(like the yemeni community in Somaliland).

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

Brother somali has over a dozen million speakers, liberal estimates go up to almost 30 million, more conservative estimates around 15. It is not almost dead.

I have just been to Somalia in 2021, and I do not call that speaking.
I do not even know what they speak in Xamar.
Bari and Waqooyi are slightly better.

 

[hinters]

Somali genetics are Ancient Egyptian + Ancient Nilotic + extinct Horn of African hunter gatherer. Not Yemeni. But this is 5000+ years ago. Habeshas have significant Yemeni admixture.

Are we really part ancient egyptian? This is new information to me.

I have just been to Somalia in 2021, and I do not call that speaking.

Wait are you saying that Somalis don't speak Somali fluently or what?

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

Somali genetics are Ancient Egyptian + Ancient Nilotic + extinct Horn of African hunter gatherer. Not Yemeni. But this is 5000+ years ago. Habeshas have significant Yemeni admixture.

Let us explore this line of discussion another day, shall we?

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

Wait are you saying that Somalis don't speak Somali fluently or what?

Back home, they speak what could be classified as pedgin Somali, and most of them do not even know how to write, and here we are conversing in Eng.

The Somali spoken today is not the Somali I speak, or that my parents spoke, or my grandparents. It is caricature derivative at best.

 

[World]

Are we really part ancient egyptian? This is new information to me.

Wait are you saying that Somalis don't speak Somali fluently or what?

Cushitic homeland is in North Sudan/South Egypt, we’re recent migrants to Somalia. But this admixture was before Egyptian civilisation existed, and makes up 40 % of our genetics.

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

Are we really part ancient egyptian? This is new information to me.

I have been to S. Egypt, and people in those regions through Sudan, Erteria, Ethiopia all the way to Somalia, and then to N. Africa share more than culture, language, and ethnicity.
I recall telling one Saidi I was not Masri, and he laughed and said: they travel abroad, come back, and say they are not Masri. 7asir fasir. Same all in Maghreb.

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

But across Somalia, there are not and there have almost never been places were Arabic is spoken as a daily vernacular except by immigrants or descendants of immigrants(like the yemeni community in Somaliland).

Pre European colonialism, Arabic was the de facto language to read, and write in all major cities. Do bear in mind, most people were nomads.

 

[hinters]

Pre European colonialism, Arabic was the de facto language to read, and write in all major cities. Do bear in mind, most people were nomads.

Well yes, because Arabic had a written script and Somali didn't. That's why Somali was occasionally written in the Arabic script. We use Arabic as a liturgical language and a language of worship.

 

[Hamzarashid]

Do you know whom Salah al Din Ayoun, Tariq bin Zayed, and Mohamed Basha were?

LOL I can't believe called you Salah al Din an arab when he is clearly a kurd ridiculous I will not be suprise if you actually believe what persians did for islam wasn't done by them but it was the arabs

 

[hinters]

Back home, they speak what could be classified as pedgin Somali, and most of them do not even know how to write, and here we are conversing in Eng.

The Somali spoken today is not the Somali I speak, or that my parents spoke, or my grandparents. It is caricature derivative at best.

Maybe you heard the sheeko of the youth in Xamar. Never kow what they're saying. But Somali is a very rich language, many Somalis today still know archaic vocab that has been largely replaced with Arabic, and most have knowledge of at least some poems.

Everyday speech is gonna be different.

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

LOL I can't believe called you Salah al Din an arab when he is clearly a kurd ridiculous I will not be suprise if you actually believe what persians did for islam wasn't done by them but it was the arabs

You missed the spirit of the question, but you made my point. The men I mentioned are of Kurdish, Amazeghi, and Albanian descent.

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

On that note, do you know half of the Arabic language has its root in Farsi? Did you know the Arabic grophology is of Persian origin?

 

[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

Somalis today still know archaic vocab that has been largely replaced with Arabic, and most have knowledge of at least some poems.

Used to be, but not any more. Many young people are turning away from Somali the same way they are turning away from Islam, Arabic, and heritage. Those brainwashed in the diaspora with identity crises are adversely influencing those back home.

 

[Hamzarashid]

On that note, do you know half of the Arabic language has its root in Farsi? Did you know the Arabic grophology is of Persian origin

Absolutely, I wasn't the one gatekeeping Islam. We wouldn't have the golden age of Islam if the Persians didn't contribute towards it. The great collectors of hadith are all persian the greatest scholars of islam were persian. My issue with you is when you said Salah al-Din al-Ayyubi was an arab when, clearly, he is a kurd. In Islamic history you will see great scholars or great warriors that have done great things that were not Persian or Arab. I feel we should embrace that rather than labeling a person something that they are not and also your taking away the pride of a certain group that may revered him .

 

[Kan'an]

Out of the 7000 languages in this world, Somali is among the top 100 most spoken, and is one of the most widely spoken native african tongues. Among hausa, swahili, etc(not including arabic cause it's not native).

I think that is the most impressive thing about Somalis. Our numbers and blueprint in the world stage is very miniscule, almost trivial. But our language is the 71th most spoken in the world. Without counting Somalis in Ethiopia, Kenya or Djibouti so this is an understatement.

71th place does not seem like much but remember, Somalis are less 0.015 of the world's population.

 

[Kan'an]

Ranked: The 100 Most Spoken Languages Around the World

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[𐒋𐒖𐒆𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒈]

My issue with you is when you said Salah al-Din al-Ayyubi was an arab when, clearly, he is a kurd.

You misread; try again.

 

[El Nino]

Back home, they speak what could be classified as pedgin Somali, and most of them do not even know how to write, and here we are conversing in Eng.

The Somali spoken today is not the Somali I speak, or that my parents spoke, or my grandparents. It is caricature derivative at best.

We need to analyse why so many of our people get satisfaction from trolling, I ask Allah to remove whatever the gene is causing this calamity from somali bloodlines, Aamiin

 

[Som]

No one owes you anything. You should help yourself at first, or show willingness to be helped. And for crying out load quit with this begging mentality.
Besides, contemporary Somalis have shown to have been by far the most destructive, if brainless people on the planet.

And for the record, had it not been for the Arab nations, there would not have been a nation called Somalia, or people by that name by now.

1) i never said they owe us anything. I say they aren't interested in helping us and today gulf arab countries are not our friends. I know we somalis are responsible for our own situation.
2) this is BS. What do you mean exactly? Somalis existed as a people before Arabs. Despite the key importance of contacts with Arabs in somali history it's false to say we wouldn't exist as a people. As a country the independence of Somalia has nothing to do with Arabs, maybe only countries like Egypt helped a bit during the Italian trust period (italians wanted extensions, Egypt was against it) but still somalia was set to become independent anyway. Egypt during Nasser's era was a true friend Somalia, when I say Arabs aren't helping us I'm talking about recent times