Syria Updates: The Fall of Bashar al-Assad

[World]

It is not just the usual suspects who got humiliated. They are a bunch of liberal westerners who were also part of the bloodthirsty real politik scum brigade.

Guys like barack Obama who sold the Syrians out so he could kiss and make up with Khamenei
his illiterate side kick ben Rhodes
trash like brett mcgurk, phil gorden and a whole bunch of DC scum
think tankers like abu jamajem and aron lund

then the whole western shabiha from max Blumenthal aron mate, rania Khalek, max Abrahams, Kevork al massian and on and on.

they revelled in the distress and pain of the Syrian people. They were assad bootlickers and today they can enjoy the fall of their idol. The humiliation is sweet

Finally how fitting and hilarious to see Saudis back a loser like bashar when they could have waited a bit more and been on the winning side for once

Thoughts?

 

[Riftvalley]

What a beautiful morning. A cuppa to watch the celebration videos and some biscuits to read the tears and tweets of “ muh brother you don’t understand the geo politics of muh China Brics and Iran”.

 

[Bison]

Congratulations Free Syria

 

[Somali Saayid]

Syria’s embattled President Bashar Assad says he will not leave his country.

Mr Assad told Russia TV he will “live and die” in Syria.

His comments come two days after British Prime Minister David Cameron suggested that Mr Assad could be allowed safe passage out of the country if that would guarantee an end to the nation’s civil war.

Mr Assad spoke in English with Russia Today TV. Excerpts of the interview were posted on the TV station’s website today, with an Arabic voice-over.

Mr Assad says he is not a puppet of the West.

He says: “I am Syrian, made in Syria, and I will live and die in Syria.

 

[Araabi]

From a purely military perspective, the Syrian army was 300k strong and they hardly fired a shot back. Even when they lost Aleppo, they didn't create or beef up any defensive lines. They just gave way. The Syrian 'rebels' are estimated to be 30k which is a conservative estimate. The Syrian army could have withheld for decades.

All the hallmarks of a staged and organised coup.

 

[Somali Saayid]

From a purely military perspective, the Syrian army was 300k strong and they hardly fired a shot back. Even when they lost Aleppo, they didn't create or beef up any defensive lines. They just gave way. The Syrian 'rebels' are estimated to be 30k which is a conservative estimate. The Syrian army could have withheld for decades.

All the hallmarks of a staged and organised coup.

No doubt the elites were bought, the PM was chilling outside the 4 season hotel in Damascus while the rebels were knocking on the doors of Damascus and their rockets were flying right over the presidential palace. If the millitary and political elite class are spared then we will know that they cooperated to hand Syria over to the rebels and terrorists.

 

[Somali Saayid]

No photos of the wreckage site where Assad's plane supposedly crashed, no bodies? Swift evacuation from the airport and presidential palace.

The plane took off just under 30 minutes before the rebels took the airport.

 

[GemState]

From a purely military perspective, the Syrian army was 300k strong and they hardly fired a shot back. Even when they lost Aleppo, they didn't create or beef up any defensive lines. They just gave way. The Syrian 'rebels' are estimated to be 30k which is a conservative estimate. The Syrian army could have withheld for decades.

All the hallmarks of a staged and organised coup.

Sunnis switched sides, that's basically it. They realized HTS and being governed by a Libya-style UN government is better than a minoritarian Baathist socialist state

 

[GemState]

Assad's government was a coalition of minorities + Middle class Sunnis who sided with Assad due to expecting a peace dividend after he won the first round of the Civil War. Instead the economy shrunk, no electricity, and state services are basically gone, so morale collapsed.

 

[Somali Saayid]

Mooryan looting Villa Somalia and Syrian Arab Republic Presidential Palace

Weapon distribution to Civilians

This is 91' all over again. Less than 24 hours and I'm sadly proven right. The looting and weapon distribution has begun

 

[Somali Saayid]

 

[Riftvalley]

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Mooryan looting Villa Somalia and Syrian Arab Republic Presidential Palace

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Weapon distribution to Civilians

This is 91' all over again. Less than 24 hours and I'm sadly proven right. The looting and weapon distribution has begun

Assad has barely gone a day and you’re saying it is like 91 Somalia all because some guys entered his palace. Nothing has been proven. The Syria rebels actually seem to have planned for civilian rule in the areas they have taken over, and they established food disruption, reopened factories in Aleppo on their first day. Many places have also fallen without fighting as the Syrian opposition have spent the last few years making contact with tribal elders and leaders to prepare for this. There has been little reporting of reprisals against minorities in the places they have taken over.


How can you possibly compare this Muqdisho 91 where people were starving and the daroods who were stranded in muqdisho had to hide/pretend to be Dir lest they were caught. Do the scenes we are seeing in Syria resemble anything like Somalia 91?

 

[Riftvalley]

Inshallah we will hear some good news from our ikhwa in Sudan in the coming months, too.

 

[Somali Saayid]

Assad has barely gone a day and you’re saying it is like 91 Somalia all because some guys entered his palace. Nothing has been proven. The Syria rebels actually seem to have planned for civilian rule in the areas they have taken over, and they established food disruption, reopened factories in Aleppo on their first day. Many places have also fallen without fighting as the Syrian opposition have spent the last few years making contact with tribal elders and leaders to prepare for this. There has been little reporting of reprisals against minorities in the places they have taken over.


How can you possibly compare this Muqdisho 91 where people were starving and the daroods who were stranded in muqdisho had to hide/pretend to be Dir lest they were caught. Do the scenes we are seeing in Syria resemble anything like Somalia 91?

You think people were starving on day one or the killings began in the hourls after Mohamed Siyaad Barre left the city? The worst is yet to come.

 

[Farsi]

The rebels are preparing to enter the Alawi heartland coastal regions of Syria.

 

[Riftvalley]

You think people were starving on day one or the killings began in the hourls after Mohamed Siyaad Barre left the city? The worst is yet to come.

It may happen, it may not. From what I have observed so far- the Syrian opposition despite their divisions-seem to have put a lot of thought into post take over. That’s why life continues as normal in places like Aleppo and Hama. I know you want them to fail so you can say “life was better off with muh Assad, look I told you so”, but painting a gloomy outlook based on a few videos is a bit over the top. There will also be more incentives for Syrian opposition groups and remnants of the regime to have a political discourse by countries like Qatar, Turkey and the EU. Somalia was never seen as that important.


My only concern would be the reaction of the jihadi coalition within Jolanis people if they deen him as straying to far to the path of a secular Arab nationalistic state. We might see some infighting and splits once that path is crossed. It will probably look more like Libya in the recent years not exactly Muqdisho 91.

 

[Nilotic]

The Syrians had every right to remove the rule by one family -- especially since that family belonged to a Sect that was emplaced and elevated by colonial powers

 

[reer]

It may happen, it may not. From what I have observed so far- the Syrian opposition despite their divisions-seem to have put a lot of thought into post take over. That’s why life continues as normal in places like Aleppo and Hama. I know you want them to fail so you can say “life was better off with muh Assad, look I told you so”, but painting a gloomy outlook based on a few videos is a bit over the top. There will also be more incentives for Syrian opposition groups and remnants of the regime to have a political discourse by countries like Qatar, Turkey and the EU. Somalia was never seen as that important.


My only concern would be the reaction of the jihadi coalition within Jolanis people if they deen him as straying to far to the path of a secular Arab nationalistic state. We might see some infighting and splits once that path is crossed. It will probably look more like Libya in the recent years not exactly Muqdisho 91.

they have muslims from the caucasus, uzbeks and uyghurs batallions/brigades.

 

[Riftvalley]

they have muslims from the caucasus, uzbeks and uyghurs batallions/brigades.

Yes, I heard the Uyghurs played a major role.

My point was that governing an entire country will be different to running a rebel enclave. Jolani will have to come up with or hand over to a coalition of folks who will build a civilian based model which allows for different communities to be respected and still be under a modern state. He will also have to manage the expectations of Islamist fighters. Undermining incentives by gulf states will start soon if they deem a Syrian Islamist led state to be unacceptable. Don’t forget Israel and Turkey next door as well. He was a bit guarded in his interview with CNN. Let’s see inshallah.

 

[Tiyeglow]

Assad has barely gone a day and you’re saying it is like 91 Somalia all because some guys entered his palace. Nothing has been proven. The Syria rebels actually seem to have planned for civilian rule in the areas they have taken over, and they established food disruption, reopened factories in Aleppo on their first day. Many places have also fallen without fighting as the Syrian opposition have spent the last few years making contact with tribal elders and leaders to prepare for this. There has been little reporting of reprisals against minorities in the places they have taken over.


How can you possibly compare this Muqdisho 91 where people were starving and the daroods who were stranded in muqdisho had to hide/pretend to be Dir lest they were caught. Do the scenes we are seeing in Syria resemble anything like Somalia 91?

Hutus cannot fathom that their chimpanzee behaviour was unprecedented in modern political turmoil